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Permanently Banned, ouch.

me blank··1 votes·870 views

It's not really an ouch. Happened bunch of times, but I took a break for a year and really "found" myself. I'm not nearly as toxic as I used to be and while I made great strides in toxicity levels, I'd like to become better. Now on to make another account. Another 50$ goes down the drain, lol.

Here are my logs. Tell me what I could've done better, in context of course.

me blank: tfw vlad trolls me blank: its vlad siupp me blank: i told him im trolling me blank: but hes not gonna me blank: he bought me blank: spelltheifs me blank: okay bud idc me blank: nope me blank: hey vlad me blank: wanna be useful homie me blank: woah, vlads insane me blank: a1 talent me blank: vlad ur iunsanely good bro me blank: why do you keep pushing me blank: are you high me blank: heca me blank: pls help me blank: yeah. report the vlad me blank: heca me blank: keep camping bot me blank: heca me blank: fucking camp bot me blank: if bot doesnt get ganks, we lose game instantly me blank: you wanna lose? me blank: im down me blank: no me blank: win me blank: we can win me blank: so please get banned or win me blank: report heca, ahri, for negative attitude me blank: theyve given up already me blank: not doing anything me blank: no me blank: i said might as well me blank: see me blank: hope this idiot gets banned. been getting peeps like him all day me blank: there he goes me blank: ive gotten people like heca and vlad me blank: all day me blank: ???whats up with that me blank: people who whine about idiots? me blank: open mid, oppen mid waah waah waaah me blank: you sound like a fucking baby me blank: stfu me blank: report heca ahri? thanks me blank: the ahri who me blank: gave him me blank: that much more reason to lose

(When I stated I wanted to troll/lose, I was joking. This was because the heca/ahri kept spouting off about vlad support, thresh top. I did not actually want to lose, and our lane was our only hope, as our mid and top were 0/4 and 0/3) Second game

me blank: \pls lulu me blank: make sona not fuck me me blank: we need help bot me blank: :D me blank: those sona heals r killer me blank: lulu go back and buy a fking pink me blank: meanwhile nidalee me blank: LULU me blank: HELLO me blank: a support me blank: ? me blank: why polymorph the fucking kalista me blank: thats what im wondering me blank: sona can heal me blank: you poly sona me blank: same me blank: she cant say no? me blank: lol me blank: cant cs me blank: if sona is there me blank: bud me blank: wow me blank: we've lost every 2v2 me blank: :) me blank: wow me blank: wow me blank: nice shield me blank: turret gone no ganks me blank: xd me blank: plz just fucking come me blank: holy shit me blank: no we didnt me blank: are you high as fuck me blank: helping is better than afk farm me blank: blue is gone me blank: nid hasnt ganked anyone me blank: tfw you lose in champ select me blank: i asked her if i could adc and if shes new at jg she didnt say me blank: we can 10)% win, nid just needs to participate in this game me blank: are u srs nid me blank: bois me blank: plz me blank: why no baron me blank: we couldve done it you just didnt come me blank: gone me blank: syndra has ult me blank: lol me blank: i go get me blank: ?? me blank: team? me blank: why me blank: nidalee so noob

(Nidalee picked jungle and didn't say anything when she was new to it. She used that as an excuse for AFK farming. Lulu didn't deserve my hate.)

Those were the only two games that Riot gave me, and I have not been punished at all on this account for 4+ months, maybe more, I can't remember.

33 Comments

Aryzyra3 votes

The vast majority of comments in the posted logs will not logically result in better play or coordination for anyone on your team.

Soul Dealer1 votes

{quoted}

The vast majority of comments in the posted logs will not logically result in better play or coordination for anyone on your team.

That doesn't mean they should be banned for that though

Aryzyra1 votes

Sure. I think it's safe to assume this account previously had a 14-day.

me blank1 votes

I think I did. It was a long time ago if it happened.

Aryzyra2 votes

My understanding is the system looks at games rather than real time. So staying off the account doesn't help. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but it would explain this situation.

Anyway, the real point of my post was to help you become better, as desired in the original post, by noting the general problem with the logs. If you're posting to chat with an objective of better play, camaraderie, and/or coordination, then you'll be fine. If you're posting because you don't like how someone else is playing and want them to know that, you'll end up on the wrong end of the stick again.

me blank1 votes

I guess what I'm asking is, how do I point out something someone needs to do better, but not be a dick about it? I have a problem with this IRL, and with friends. This is how I act normally, with everyone. I'm not intentionally trying to be mean, because I'm not angry while typing. I'm a really calm person usually. I just come off as a jerk, when in reality, that's how I act. (Not an excuse). How do I change, or re-phrase my complaints? Also, I don't know what I could do better ingame, but if I see what someone else can't and that can make them better, why not point it out?

Aryzyra1 votes

Well, lessee here. Change: "me blank: tfw vlad trolls me blank: its vlad siupp me blank: i told him im trolling me blank: but hes not gonna me blank: he bought me blank: spelltheifs me blank: okay bud idc me blank: nope me blank: hey vlad me blank: wanna be useful homie me blank: woah, vlads insane me blank: a1 talent me blank: vlad ur iunsanely good bro me blank: why do you keep pushing me blank: are you high me blank: heca me blank: pls help me blank: yeah. report the vlad me blank: heca me blank: keep camping bot me blank: heca me blank: fucking camp bot me blank: if bot doesnt get ganks, we lose game instantly"

To: me blank: we need to stop pushing lane me blank: so our jungler can gank me blank: heca, could use some help down here

Do you see the difference? All the relevant information is there, without the sarcasm, blaming, and complaining.

And most importantly, if people ignore you and keep doing things you don't appreciate, let it go. It's not worth your account to chat about how you think other people should play.

me blank1 votes

that's true, but we were pushed to our tower a lot. that's the thing, vlad either wouldn't help when they tried to 2v2 us(we had better comp 2v2 wise). That's true though, so you just have to be softer. It just sucks, I thought I'd get a warning again after the consistent play without punishment, which kind of sucks, but...meh :( I started a new account, waiting for some money from my uncle to spend on it. Work for league of legends ahah

HalcyonDweller1 votes

If you'd like help finding ways to communicate with teammates without getting into trouble this may help:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/bv2m7fx4-feeders-and-toxic-teammates-got-you-down-this-may-help

I wrote it to help people learn how to communicate more effectively while avoiding getting reported too.

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me blank1 votes

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Soul Dealer2 votes

I can honestly say he does not deserve this report because because I am way more toxic then this on a daily basis and I have never gotten banned or chat restricted. Riot just gives out bans randomly

me blank1 votes

I mean I can't say I don't deserve it, because I was pretty passive aggressive, and I mocked them a lot, but you're right. Tons of my friends are super toxic and they don't get anything other than a few chat restrictions. My last punishment was almost half a year ago, something like 4 or 5 months. Been playing consistently too. Almost reached plat, and there's a lot of trolls in high gold-low plat.

Soul Dealer2 votes

I am almost 90% sure you can be as toxic as you want in bronze and silver and not get a ban but in gold or higher you say one wrong thing and your instantly banned

zPOOPz1 votes

LMFAO

General Esdeath 2 votes

$50? For what?

me blank1 votes

For some RP of course. On my new account. I have my enter key disabled, I've got a good mindset, and I know I can't talk to teammates like I talk to friends. Get lee sin, muay thai lee, and an ip boost. Now I have time to learn to not be toxic, hone my lee sin mechanics(Its gonna be a lee one trick account) and get above gold 1-plat 5 this time.

General Esdeath 2 votes

OK

Xidphel1 votes

What do you think posting context will do aside from saying you were not the only one being toxic? Mute and report.

me blank1 votes

I get that I was toxic, but where's the grey line? Between being toxic and not being toxic? I feel like I'm pretty damn close. Lulu polymorphed the 0 dmg kalista, I pointed that out and am a dick about it, but how is that toxic? I'm not calling anyone names besides nidalee a 'noob' and adding curse words as emphasis.

However, I appreciate you telling me to mute. Along with disabling my enter key I will try to remember to mute. Thanks :)

Karunamon1 votes

The fact that you're having this conversation implies that you don't quite grasp what toxicity is.

From your chat:

me blank: tfw vlad trolls me blank: hope this idiot gets banned. been getting peeps like him all day me blank: open mid, oppen mid waah waah waaah me blank: you sound like a fucking baby me blank: stfu me blank: lulu go back and buy a fking pink me blank: are you high as fuck me blank: tfw you lose in champ select me blank: nidalee so noob

This is all nasty, negative stuff that I'd vote to punish for if it came up in tribunal. And before you say "context", context doesn't matter. There is muting flamers, and counterflaming. You were counterflaming. Don't do that next account.

me blank: report heca, ahri, for negative attitude me blank: yeah. report the vlad me blank: report heca ahri? thanks

Calling for reports is bannable.

me blank1 votes

First of all, the first part is toxic, and it's hard to say that's what I'm like IRL, and all my friends are too. We are shitty people who find humour in all the insults. Now I can be nice, but I hate having to watch myself. Guess i have to start to

And calling for reports is bannable? Since when? wtf i genuinely didn't know

Kei1431 votes

The report is valid since the first line of game1. So I stopped reading.

What can you stop doing? Stop harassing other, stop insulting others, stop blaming others, stop accusing of other for things they cos they disagree with you.

me blank1 votes

Harassing, didn't do that. I insulted a little bit, and blamed Lulu for something she did, I blamed Nidalee for something she didn't do, and a troll for being a troll. Hmm.

I did accuse them, and they don't agree, but that doesn't make me wrong.

Kei1431 votes

your first sentence is harassment already, in the form of accusing others of things they aren't.

You failing to recognize toxicity, especially mild toxicity, is what led you to your permaban.

me blank1 votes

But he said he was trolling in pre game chat.

Kei1431 votes

hmmm...

They still haven't done anything and you accusing them already.

While you can argue whether the first sentence is harassment in this specific circumstances, saying stuff like this in general will get punished (over many games).

Same with how you are demanding ganks or its instant-loss.

I stopped reading again after reading up to the gank-or-instant-loss statement.

me blank1 votes

Yeah. I talked to a good friend about this, posted these logs, and he asked me, "What? You act like this normally...wtf." But then he's like, "Oh, these people don't know you well enough to know that its just you trolling, tone it down" And then he proceeds to lecture me about it. I understand it. Also, about the gank or loss, the thresh top was 0/4 Ahri mid was 0/3, and our only close lane was bot. Logically speaking, it's better to get draven/vlad ahead than the top thresh, and the mid ahri, who are both losing pretty heavily.

Kei1431 votes

Again, you can try to make a case for this one scenario, but if you are constantly making the game environment negative by spamming "ff@15, open mid, I give up" or stuff like that, you will be punished over many games.

me blank1 votes

Well no, I rarely give up. You're misunderstanding me. I don't think we can win, but I've had some insane comeback games. I hate forfeiting.

Kei1431 votes

Just letting you know what can get you punished.

What you do with that information is up to you.

me blank1 votes

Alright. Still sucks though. <3

Brotha1 votes

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me blank: tfw vlad trolls me blank: its vlad siupp

LOL. That may have been me if you guys won. I went Vlad support earlier in the season because my team banned my Blitz. Never played Vlad before but we won the game because Vlad broken damage.

me blank1 votes

Nah, if it was a legitimate vlad support, I'd be fine. it's actually pretty decent. Combine it with cait or trist and it's amazing, but when he says he's gonna troll in pre-game, it's rough.

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