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Is it wrong for me to respond?

oOAngelMoonOo··3 votes·5,726 views

I am an avid reporter of toxic players. I hate them, they ruin my games. But after a while I just get pissed about it! Sometimes after telling people to chill out and stop being toxic, i will resort to just telling them to shut up, and mute them. But other times I know I can't afford to mute the team member because they DO give useful information and I DO want to win my games. Is it wrong for me to retaliate by telling them THEY are the ones playing bad, and ruining team fights? I usually say something like "You're the one being bad stop talking" or if I get really tilted off it I say "You're so stupid just stop talking and play". My concern is if this is too much of myself being toxic in return? I know that I shouldn't say anything at all, but it just builds up when someone does it every game!Neeko

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MagicFlyingLlama6 votes

Ever heard the phrase "dont feed the trolls"?

oOAngelMoonOo1 votes

You're right, I gotta just mute them right away when it starts. It just gets so bad in ranked sometimes I can't believe they still have an account when they act like that.

C9 Scott1 votes

Someone said this to me once and it pissed me off like nothing else. He's legitimately trying to calm them down to win the game, this approach is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

What.

C9 Scott1 votes

Should I speak slowly?

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

You could try context and grammar, or more likely not.

ClevelandfCj1 votes

Stop caring what other people think. Its pathetic. Tell them what you think, or don't. Who cares? But if you care about your account, dont type, at all, ever or risk bans.

oOAngelMoonOo2 votes

I don't care about what they think? I care that they are ruining my game and then inting because they are mad at the team.

MenacedKnight2 votes

Doesn't matter. Don;t use the chat. Got chat restricted and lost all chance of end of season rewards because I stood up for myself when a plat IV was talking down to me for being Bronze I. Don't use the chat because if you say "darn" the wrong way and someone gets "offended" by it then you will lose Honor levels and possibly more.

oOAngelMoonOo2 votes

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Doesn't matter. Don;t use the chat. Got chat restricted and lost all chance of end of season rewards because I stood up for myself when a plat IV was talking down to me for being Bronze I. Don't use the chat because if you say "darn" the wrong way and someone gets "offended" by it then you will lose Honor levels and possibly more.

I know it's an automated system but I mean if you don't say anything flagged as offensive by it and are rarely reported will that really happen?? I mean the system can't be THAT broken, can it?

rujitra4 votes

No. It won't. It's not broken.

You are getting replies on this thread from people that are salty about being correctly punished for toxic behavior.

If all you're doing is saying "shut up" once in a blue moon, it's incredibly unlikely you get punished. Only consistent and/or severe toxicity is punished. Rare frustration is not punished.

ClevelandfCj1 votes

Oh, so OCCASIONAL harrasment is just fine now :). Good to know where you stand. :) :)

rujitra4 votes

Harassment, by definition, is not "occasional".

ClevelandfCj1 votes

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Harassment, by definition, is not "occasional".

Sure it can be. If something is occasional, and still occurs repeatedly, it can still be considered harassment.

Sukishoo2 votes

If it occurs repeatedly then its not occasional.

ClevelandfCj1 votes

Fine, I should have used the phrase "more than once" and occasionally, it is still harassment.

ClevelandfCj1 votes

Fine, I should have used the phrase "more than once" and occasionally, it is still harassment.

rujitra1 votes

Saying "fuck you" once or twice is not harassment.

https://puu.sh/ECO16/ac790382a6.png

By definition, harassment must be persistent - i.e not occasional and not just "more than once".

ClevelandfCj1 votes

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Saying "fuck you" once or twice is not harassment.

https://puu.sh/ECO16/ac790382a6.png

By definition, harassment must be persistent - i.e not occasional and not just "more than once".

So if this is your logic, how is telling someone "KYS" once in a game, verbal harassment?

rujitra3 votes

I didn't ever say it was. You're actually the only one that used the word harassment until I had to define it for you. I said the following:

If all you're doing is saying "shut up" once in a blue moon, it's incredibly unlikely you get punished. Only consistent and/or severe toxicity is punished. Rare frustration is not punished.

I never said that saying "kys" once is verbal harassment. I have said, however, that it is severe toxicity. Harassment is not the only thing punishable in League.

oOAngelMoonOo1 votes

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If all you're doing is saying "shut up" once in a blue moon, it's incredibly unlikely you get punished. Only consistent and/or severe toxicity is punished. Rare frustration is not punished.

That's good to know. If even small aggressions were punished like that I think I'd have been banned a long time ago. I used to be kind of toxic in ranked but I was just a teenager then though, and am much better now- and hopefully will never be up for a ban. :)

CharDeeMcDenniz2 votes

it's not like that at all

just salty exaggeration

MenacedKnight1 votes

Yes it can be. Remember that riot created the system. you know the same people who are incompetent at balancing the game even a little bit. If you don't want to suffer any punishment from cry babies who take whatever you're saying and twist it to mean something that will offend them then just remove the enter key from your keyboard

Mr Sa1nt1 votes

I personally don't believe it's toxic, unless your chat becomes aggressive, or takes up game time.

The most effective thing I've figured out, is to literally say "you're being toxic", then just stop talking to them. It's good for you, and for that person. You see that they are toxic, so you now know to avoid them. They see you think they are toxic, so they have a time to reflect. Most of the time, not always, the toxic people actually just stop. The best part is, you're not flaming, you're not being toxic or rude, you're just making an observation and letting it go.

Skt T1 Deadproof1 votes

There should be harder punish for those people, and some kind of a reform even for those who got perma ban, or some kind of apeel which will make them looking better not just sepparating TOXIC and NON TOXIC its because of several reasons. Non toxic people will not get banned, than can provocate u on so much ways just so u can tell offensive word and that they can report u. Even tho they just int or throw, it will take alote longer for them to get banned for THAT KIND of offense sence the Automatic Ban System doesnt recognize if u playing just bad or doing it intentionally. I have tested this. i had account which i made in just intention of inting and trolling to see how much it will take me to get banned, emagine my suprise when i lvled 26 lvl's with constent int and trolling my team , even writting that i gonna int and so on.They can make u toxic with just theyre action, for example is that inting, when i done that, people consistantly flamed me, and i understand that, but if i just didnt talk back and continued to do it i wouldnt get banned, and the people i reported for verball harrassment and so on .. they did get punished while i did not. It took me about 3 or so months of consistent feeding and inting and telling in game that i gnna do that to get banned. and to be completly honest i would still have that account if i just muted and inted and did same thing i did. there are many ways of toxicity which is sad. This is a game, competitive one if i may add. There will be trash talk, but if u Riot just would try focus more on toxicity of a gameplay and not just "chat" it would be a better system overall. This is a game SO GAMEPLAY should matter too. Not a chat which is just in game function, side thing which is added to communicate with u teammates. And which for u can get Higher and Faster PUNISHMENT then from a gameplay which we all agree is important, we all wanna rank up and reach that sweet gold,plat,dia or what ever ^^

But that's just my oppinion i guess. [slayer-jinx-catface]

CominTowardsYa1 votes

I just ignore what they do and say, and point out objectives or tactics. If the game is already lost, acknowledging them won't save you.

I Am R Kelly1 votes

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Mr Sa1nt2 votes

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Sadly in this game the people act like they have vaginas so yes it would be deemed as "toxic" However i always give them a piece of my mind because that what gaming really is about.

Is that what gaming is about? That's an interesting concept. I suppose next time I'm playing a single player game, I should start flaming the NPCs and being toxic to them.

Pretty sure gaming is about playing the game, and having fun. Not about trying to make other people feel bad, so they can't have fun.

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