think im just going to stop playing, no matter what happened in all of these games, one player on my team tilted into another universe over something small, and either afk'd or fed like crazy all while swearing etc. i used to play this game to wind down and relax a bit, but i cant even have fun anymore
thoughts?
Deep Terror Nami6 votesYou're in low Bronze, and that can be a pretty shitty environment because typically nobody wants to be there whether they belong there or not. Be liberal with muting anyone that starts being toxic and just focus on improving your gameplay.
Take some time to read guides, watch pro/high elo streams, and ask the boards for advice; like myself, you might actually find that you learn and improve the most doing that than playing.
Xya1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xkkZjW9a,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-12T19:23:12.367+0000)
You're in low Bronze, and that can be a pretty shitty environment because typically nobody wants to be there whether they belong there or not. Be liberal with muting anyone that starts being toxic and just focus on improving your gameplay.
Take some time to read guides, watch pro/high elo streams, and ask the boards for advice; like myself, you might actually find that you learn and improve the most doing that than playing.
I watch so many guides/tips and tricks/champ guides/watch professional gameplay of the champ and read so many, I try so hard, but I think I just need more confidence and time to learn the game and extend my champion pool.
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By the looks of it you're playing on tilt even if you don't realize it after playing with some of these people. I know it can be hard but the best way to deal with it is ignore them because they crave attention. Personally if I were you I would spend more time criticizing yourself and working towards learning build paths and positioning. Almost every elo is full of these people and it can be ridiculous at times but you gotta work through it the best you can. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
You've no idea how many people AFK on my games haha, and it's so sad as a support for your jungler to stop ganking because the Vayne won't say sorry, so he takes you both off his list, or your mid laner goes AFK because of 3 minions that the top laner took on his roam, therefore taking you all down with him, it hasn't even been that long, but I always blame myself, specially as a support player, I would take breaks, and play arams and play with friends, but sometimes it got so bad that I would cry after or during games, my body would hurt, my headaches would increase, I would get depressed and anxious for the whole week, just telling myself why I couldn't be better, that it was all my fault and that I was unimportant and pure garbage, I would stay up practicing and trying to improve, reading guides and all as stated above, criticizing yourself is good, but so long as you can keep it under control.
Deep Terror Nami2 votesand extend my champion pool
I highly advise doing the opposite. Learning every champion is good, but using them all in Ranked isn't. I recommend mastering a very small pool of champions.
Xya1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xkkZjW9a,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-12-12T21:04:16.623+0000)
I highly advise doing the opposite. Learning every champion is good, but using them all in Ranked isn't. I recommend mastering a very small pool of champions.
Don't worry, I would never bring a new champ who I don't have at least lvl4 to Ranked, I am just trying to extend my pool, as to be able to understand others' champs, and maybe find the one champ I love, I own most of the support champs so I think I'm set, but it will also help me with game knowledge, but I will take your advise dearly and try to master a small amount to the best I can! Thanks! [slayer-jinx-catface]
RookPusher1 votesYeah but knowing the champ isn't what you need. You need to know how to respond to what the champ does. There's a ton of abilities I don't know the official name for at all. It's how to punish them for using those abilities that matter.
OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votesDon't worry, I would never bring a new champ who I don't have at least lvl4 to Ranked, I am just trying to extend my pool, as to be able to understand others' champs, and maybe find the one champ I love, I own most of the support champs so I think I'm set, but it will also help me with game knowledge, but I will take your advise dearly and try to master a small amount to the best I can! Thanks!
I started playing early in season 3, and made the mistake of jumping almost immediately into ranked. To this day, I still hate ranked. I play it pretty much only when my friends bully me into it. But one thing I did pick up in season 3 that I actually loved was supporting. I dabbled a bit with a few other roles in 4 and 5, just enough that if I got stuck in another spot, I could get by. But by season 6, I don't even pretend to play other roles any more. I own all the supports, but I've been a Sona main for a very long time. I definitely agree with Nami as far as mastering a small pool of champions. I have 3 different sets of masteries, and 4 different rune pages that I use for Sona depending on what the enemy team looks like and what my team needs. I have 2 different pages for Janna, 2 for Soraka, 2 for Leona, 1 for Thresh, 2 for Morgana/Zyra, you get the idea....
To me, picking out the right support champ for the game, and then which runes and masteries is a fun little mini-game. And then you get to begin the real fun of playing the match and trying to outwit the enemy support!
If you look at some of the one-tricks at the challenger level, people like Annie Bot and BoxBox, IreliaCarriesU, PinkWard, they got where they did by knowing all the matchups very well. If you pick a few champs to specialize in, and then learn which lanes are in your favor, which are in their favor, which lanes you are going to be camped in, which lanes you need to play passive in, which lanes you need to go for early aggression, you'll start to instinctively learn the flow of the matches. One you have control over your lane, then you can begin to assert control over the map with roaming, global ults, semi-global items, etc.
PlsTouchMeGently2 votesNami's right. I only started climbing when I focused on the roles I'm good at.
Dapper Hat1 votesQuiet liar.
Dank Memester2 votesBy the looks of it you're playing on tilt even if you don't realize it after playing with some of these people. I know it can be hard but the best way to deal with it is ignore them because they crave attention. Personally if I were you I would spend more time criticizing yourself and working towards learning build paths and positioning. Almost every elo is full of these people and it can be ridiculous at times but you gotta work through it the best you can. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Azure Hamster2 votesELO Hell doesn't exist. It claims you lose because your teammates are low-ELO. But there are 4 slots on your team for bad players, and 5 slots on their team for bad players. Statistically speaking, if you are better than your current MMR, you will rise. If you play 100 games and you're still Bronze 5, guess what: you're a bronze 5 skill player. The next step is to stop blaming your teammates and figure out what you're doing wrong.
I did this; it works. I took one paid one-hour lesson, and I went from bronze 4 to bronze 2 in about 3 weeks. I had been stuck in B4 for months.
XinZhao2WinNhao2 votesThe problem is the lack of competitive environment in bronze 5.
In challenger games, Riot works hard to regulate things so that everything (such as matchmaking for example) is fair and that the games are competitive.
In bronze 5 riot doesn't really regulate things to make sure they're competitive. Players give up after first blood, and people want to surrender 5 minutes into the game.
Azure Hamster1 votesThe problem is the lack of competitive environment in bronze 5.
In challenger games, Riot works hard to regulate things so that everything (such as matchmaking for example) is fair and that the games are competitive.
In bronze 5 riot doesn't really regulate things to make sure they're competitive. Players give up after first blood, and people want to surrender 5 minutes into the game.
You need to investigate how MMR systems work; I have designed them. At the lower end, it's difficult for them to do their job because the players' behaviors are more erratic. It's not "Riot" who isn't regulating Bronze 5, it's just that new players don't understand the system well enough to play the least bit consistently yet. If you are more consistent than everyone else because you know the system, you will rise.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesHere are examples of how Riot is regulating challenger more than bronze
Horse Grenades1 votesIf they are boosting, they wont be in bronze lol
Kei1431 voteslearn to win lane. Learn to build for the situation.
Go to Google and check out "trading stance" videos.
Building for situations requires you to understand which damage(s) champs dish out. Which means learn the champions in game and what they can do. hint: Shyvanna is not a champ that is doing AD dmg.
RookPusher1 votesI'll chime in as a low-bronze who is in the same environment. Here's my two cents:
Muting shouldn't make you win more. But it does. By a lot. Like 33% more wins. I'm polite. I tell them. But even if you lose you'll be surprised how you blood isn't on fire.
Talent in this game is not only a small portion, it's easily overcome. What wins games is decision making. Because maybe you can outplay me. But if I don't make risky plays, over the course of 100 engagements a game, smarter decisions outweigh skill.
Don't be too discouraged. Everyone saying "each team has an equal chance of being bad!" is apparently not aware of the shockingly high level of AFK, melt-down, and troll games that exist down here. But this is why mute is so beneficial.
Edit: I just saw your link.
Stop going Fill. Pick two roles, and three champs that can play both roles. Primarily play one champ, and keep the other two around in case the first gets banned. Play your third champ less than 5% of the time. And only when the 1st and 2nd options are banned.
Pantheon is not top tier right now. Whatever lane you're using him in (I assume it's top) I would move him to your second or third pick. He falls off really hard when he does. He's not reliable. Try Swain, Jayce, or Trynd.
Your deaths seem high. Three tips to always use:
a. Living is better than getting kills b. Towers in game are more important than your children IRL c. Fighting in the jungle is always stupid. You're going to die in there. And when you do, know that I'm laughing at you. There are no towers in the jungle.
Dapper Hat1 votesWhat did you finish last year? BTW dont listen to anything Deep Terror Nami says. She was removed from the arbiter program for being a toxic mouthpiece spewing lies regarding this game and its community.
Horse Grenades1 votesproof?
FreshlyBakedMeme1 votesi finished gold 3 on my main account , im a support main, spent most of my lvl 1-30 jungling on this account
and i find that even when i play normals i still still have the same experiences, two normals games ive played today already have me
tilted into another dimension, maybe its just time to step away from the game for a while, the last 15 games just proved to me that league just isint the same anymore
Dapper Hat1 votesWhat is your main account. I went to op.gg to check your MMR and it has you at lower than average for B5 on the account you are posting on. I am playing mostly flex queue as I was placed here in Bronze 5 after my placement matches and would play with you if you like.