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Zero Tolerance for Extreme Verbal Bullying and Abuse

Malzerium··4 votes·1,445 views
Cyberbullying - FindLaw

"I am not sure how to let a developer or someone who is able to do something see this but I am taking the time in hopes that it will help something and possibly make people realize what they are saying"

So this is something that needs to be seriously addressed. The amount of verbal and sheer hatred that some players can muster up towards others just for this game is sickening. Don't get me wrong I can get a bit worked up over it but never to the point where i will tell someone "kys" which is an acronym for "kill yourself". Riot needs to punish these gamers much more vigorously and make an example of them. Make a stand as a major gaming corporation that you will not stand for it either. Attentively monitored by employees at Riot. People play this game to have fun and enjoy themselves, yes I understand everywhere in the world there is hate and bullying -primarily over video games- but, it should not under any circumstances be tolerated. I have been playing LoL with my brother and friends for over 5 years. Dedicated countless hours of my time into playing it and also money. I do not pay for hatred I play to enjoy myself. Suicide is a huge problem in the world and too many people are too ignorant to understand how influential their words can be toward others. If only players see this post I want all of you to really think to yourself for a moment. How would you feel to be told to end your life? Or if you heard someone tell your loved ones or friends to do it? Telling someone they are garbage because they can't land a Q? Imagine these words actually making someone go through with it? You might as well be held responsible for murder. Telling someone to end their life isn't funny or "cool" it's pathetic and their should be no tolerance for it, especially in a vastly growing community. Communities are meant to be uplifting and have one anothers backs. That is the point of League of Legends. It is a team based game. you have to rely on one another to get anywhere in it. Players are now making it a game of smack talk and hate speech. I encourage anyone who comes across this to share it with League players and visit the link in the description.

  • Everyone take care, Respect one another. GG Have a good one

24 Comments

Magical Player2 votes

I'm going to be the bad guy here Who is going to pay for riot to monitor all the concurrent games? How would you feel to be told to end your life? I would 2 shits, I care little what an online person says. Or if you heard someone tell your loved ones or friends to do it? If someone in league tells someone who is related to me in my game to go die. I'd give 2 shits, why because I don't want to interfere with my families agency in their life. I would respect their choice Telling someone they are garbage because they can't land a Q? If you miss skillshots, you need practice. Imagine these words actually making someone go through with it? Woah, Imagine hang on a sec. Imagine, if the Moon was Flat, the earth was a sqaure WoW imagining is great.

If you are mentally unstable, that a single typed word from some anonymous player in a video game that you interacted with for maybe around an hr Is enough to directly influence your life, there is a problem on your end. That exceeds what LEAGUE of LEGENDS can do. League is not a counseling service Sorry

Malzerium1 votes

Riot is a million dollar corporation. They could spare it. This post is more about getting through to people, also Obviously you give "2 shits" about what I have posted here to take the time and reply to it and in such length and to try and deny that things people say have no bearing on the world. Cyber bullying has been seen as a International issue. You bringing up the moon being flat is just ignorant and improbable. It is about human decency. People have no respect for one another and instead with the world rapidly progressing, instead of people growing with it they decide to try and put others down. I am not ignorant to people being mean, it's human nature for some, that doesn't mean it is okay.

destinedaboss1 votes

Million? Try billions kid. They dont care though, they arent interested in banning any more accounts than they have to. No reason to cut off access to paying customers.

Malzerium1 votes

Like I said bud. Doing this more to get through to others. Just trying to do something kind. It is better than hate. Take care, I respect your opinions.

KORGtuners1 votes

Everyone take care, Respect one another.

Practise what you preach. Respect the haters.

Magical Player1 votes

Can they afford to ban everyone? for everything? https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/decency Cyber bullying is an international issue? Really since when, which country made the claim cyber bullying is an international issue? I'm curious.

My point in bringing up the moon being flat, is you said "Imagine these words actually making someone go through with it?"

I can imagine a moon being flat, just because I can doesn't make it true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_nature

I tend to align with humans are greedy by nature, so anything that isn't promoting their gains is something that is actually offensive to them.

Its human nature to reproduce is that okay? You can't pick and choose which parts of our nature are valid. We're complex to our knowledge and changing one aspect changes it all

Lets talk a moment about what cyber bullying is

https://www.stopbullying.gov/laws/key-components/index.html

Cyber bullying applies to schools for k-12 graders

Perpetuating bullying or harassing conduct by spreading hurtful or demeaning material even if the material was created by another person (e.g., forwarding offensive e-mails or text messages). Sure this list is not an all inclusive list as far as the government sees it cyber bullying applies to Social MEDIA not to a game Now if a person goes from the game to say the boards, and constantly harasses you then its bullying or attempted bullying If a person harasses you once in a span of an hr and that occurs once and is non repeated it is not BULLYING back to the initial point that has been said a few times already if you are easily affected by others while online, you need to not be online and need to seek professional help

Malzerium1 votes

This has happened to me sure, I myself am able to deal with people's hate. However some people are not. I have friends who have taken their lives (for other reasons) and had a family member do it once. I simply posted this cause I wanted people to know that for some people it is a lot more than just words. I am not sure why you must sit here and argue something that is intrinsically wrong. I viewed a few of* your replies to other posts and you are obviously an internet troll who gets off on arguing. So i will not reply further with anything but, Take care. Have a good one.

Magical Player1 votes

You discredit my opinion by calling me a troll, thats fine I don't agree with your opinion I stated why. I asked for a simple which international country is backing this cause, you opted to ignore that. You read through all my replies? Really, all(impressive :D) Where you see arguing I see discussing.

If you wish to ignore that is your call, but simply ignoring those who don't align to your ideals...... Best of luck

Handy Sandy 1 votes

And then there's always that one person like "if they're gonna kill themselves it's their fault for playing league"

Malzerium1 votes

That logic is flawed and ignorant though. It's like saying "well since you drive a car it is your fault for getting hit by a drunk driver"

Awhegark1 votes

To be honest while your point is understandable, if it could be done, Riot would had done it already. It's pretty clear majority of leagues player base are teenagers with emotional stress on their lifes that cuss In a videogame because they feel inferior in real life. Riot understands this and that is why they are not as strict as you want. They don't want their game becoming a ghost town.

Malzerium1 votes

Yes, I understand your point but it doesn't make it right. They condone it by allowing it

Magical Player1 votes

The government allows people to smoke, they condone cancer because they don't ban smokes Insert bad thing and the image is still the same

Malzerium1 votes

True, very sad, but true

Boompenguins1 votes

Agreed. I'm annoyed by the people who say "kys" then say it means something else, like "knot your shoes" or something.

Malzerium1 votes

100% agree. They don't understand ramifications.

Troll for Trump1 votes

If you're at the point where you're following through with whatever negative action purely because of what someone said online, you need help.

The problem is more so you than it is with the vast majority of people who can handle it.

If it were persistent, more malicious cyberbullying, then yeah, sure.

This would be like punishing people in real life for saying anything that wasn't super positive.

Kinda ignorant.

Malzerium1 votes

I posted this for awareness, not because anyone has brought me to that point. I am strong willed and can cast people comments to the side. The ignorant thing is not seeing a problem in telling people to end their lives regardless of how the information is delivered. This generation has lost all grips on reality and been so sheltered that they do not understand anything but the screen in front of them and care little of others. When you say "The problem is more so you than it is with the vast majority of people who can handle it." I dont think you fully understand what you are saying because if millions of people get sick but billions are immune and you say "oh well the problem is you are not immune but more people are so it is not our problem" that is a very utilitarian way of thinking, although very arguable to be a valid point it is innately wrong in and of itself.

Troll for Trump1 votes

It doesn't matter if it's you or not, anyone who's like that is more so of a problem than others.

There are things wrong with the analogy:

The ratio is wrong; for this purpose, it'd be like 1 person maybe every million.

I'm not saying do nothing, I'm saying to not cater to them and be a hinderance on everyone else. Not everyone acts like that.

They can get help elsewhere; why are they playing a game that makes them genuinely want to kill themselves? That's definitely a personal problem that cannot be fixed through the game. It's not Riot's fault, it's not the other peoples' fault, it's THAT person's fault. So don't blame it on other people and drag them down.

grug1 votes

Riot could just block out the string of phrases but then it gets weird because of context

ie. 'kill yourself' blocked with a contextual setting such as 'kill yourself at enemy base to distract them while we baron.' granted the wording is a bit extreme but it conveys the premise clearly.

Malzerium1 votes

Something like this is a really good idea!!! If just the phrase "Kill yourself" alone and the acronym "kys" were a blocked string of phrases it would help

Kaioko1 votes

There's a balance that exist on both sides. League has become quite competitive and unfortunately with competition comes that kind of talk. While they are doling out more and more punishments; users also need to realize what they are stepping into. I'd dis-recommend people who are at a state where they are so imbalanced to play the game in the first place.

Malzerium1 votes

Very valid point.

STARS ishyishy1 votes

I just hope an actual Riot employee or trusted volunteer reads the reports I send about toxic players. I report a minimum of 2 players literally every single game for being extremely toxic in every imaginable way.

LoL has had a very bad reputation for having one of the worst communities in online gaming, and I'm seeing proof of that to this day. This tells me that Riot, although does ban players for bad behavior, isn't trying nearly hard enough to make a noticeable difference.

The main reason I refuse to give Riot any money for their microtransactions is because they don't take care of this issue. Why would I spend money on a game that I get very little enjoyment from purely because of the player base behavior? Their actions are causing a direct loss of my business, I hope they understand that.

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