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Is mute all the only way?

Lû Bu··1 votes·2,224 views

So a normal game, our nasus is 0/2/0 afk farm at 26 minutes. Plenty of stacks for a while now. He already blamed me a couple times and refused to follow any gank I did top, nothing new here. So I say "26 minutes in zero kill participation, time to stop the afk farm?" or something like that, actually even a bit nicer cuz this can sound harsh I guess. Reply was "you're a fker j4". And then botlane, not even premade with nasus starts to defend HIM!!! I have talked for good 10 minutes with support after game reconstructing the conversation and why would they "take his side" which is nuts. Bottom line was "if you want to win play ranked".

Since I see this happen a lot on the forums as well I wanna hear what you people think.

If a teammate makes a mistake, micro or macro, are you allowed to point it out (politely, ofc.)? Or since community is full of a) hard flamers and b) sensitive kids you should only talk to your irl premades EVER?

Many streamers suggest "mute all" even at higher elo (diamond+), even if you're not tilted. Riot's default settings have "all" chat turned off.

Personally I think that going with "mute all" means aknowledging the failure of League's community. Which is probably true. So I'd rather not see devil's advocates here on the forums on their high horses saying "you're the 1%, most league players are perfectly nice blah blah" because it's clearly BULLSHIT. Let's state it once and for all and work from there.

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Jo0o2 votes

He wound up with almost twice the damage dealt to champions as you, which is pretty damning if your account of him being utterly uninvolved in fights for the first 50%+ of the game.

I think what support is trying to explain to you is that you're infinitely better off, on multiple fronts, focusing on your own play rather than your teammates. Nasus was only making a "mistake" according to your strategic interpretation, and you're as fallible as the next guy. Your interpretation of "AFK farming" may have been his "split pushing", or any number of other explanations could function here. Nasus is, after all, an infinitely scaling champion that is often best served farming alone for long stretches of time.

You're free to offer advice or request a strategy of your teammates. Criticizing them as if they're an idiot and you're an infallible authority is a poor choice, though. /Mute all is only necessary if you're unable to control yourself from harassing your teammates.

Lû Bu1 votes

Sorry a bit more explanation is due I suppose. I am perfectly aware of the differences between farming and splitpushing (which he was not). I also know how "afk farm nasus" is supposed to be played, and that was not the way.

Max-Q-Nasus has to farm early on and may as well "feed" but it's worth it as long as in mid-late (depending on team situation) he can join up and make those stacks useful. A lot of inexperienced players make the mistake of thinking nasus can afk farm indefinitely, no matter what is going on. In this case we were losing one objective after another, including inhibitors.

I don't know how much you know about j4 but he will usually end up with below average damage, even when fed, especially with the tank build: burst and cc, that's what you do as jarvan, not sustained damage. He caught up in damage vs champions in late, sure, little point to that when you're fighting at your own nexus, it's pretty much the same as improving your KDA by getting kills when enemy is diving you in fountain.

But what's most curious is, you assume I don't know what I'm talking about, you say I acted as they were an idiot and I was infallible, in other words you're trying to warp the facts to play devil's advocate: my point exactly about forum population.

Just like the support did. While the reality is much simplier: perma-afk top nasus, I point out the macro mistake (I dare you find any high elo player that will say nasus can afk farm top no matter what), he insults me in response ("f*cker").

So why do you feel the urge to argue undefendable situations and act as if you, indeed, are in possession of a higher level or truth? Food for thought.

Telephone Booth2 votes

I always give suggestions. Strategy ideas. I don't tell them past mistakes, I give ideas for moving forward. Sometimes I'm met with hostility, sometimes not. Not really a big deal. Stop being so sensitive when people don't take your side. It's not about ego and having a popular opinion, it's about winning the game. If they don't take your suggestion seriously, shut the fuck up and keep playing. You sound like the "sensitive kid" you speak of.

anagasti1 votes

your comment is bull shit your calling this guy sensitive when he's complaining about a truly horrible situation riot has put players in. due to a nearly completely automated system, you can be 10/0 and if the whole team decides to report u for inting you can get banned. I just had a game where there was a duo q group running it down mid for fun while taunting our team, after arguing a bit they ended up convincing the whole team to report me, this was a 50 min game btw and all there kills were in the last 10 min. now the tehre reporting me the 5/12 brand and 7/16 panth walk away Scott free while i have a few reports on my profile. and lets say the team dint report me either way instead of 4 reports i still have 2 reports on me now from them. plus that nasus is the sensitive one he is getting told soemthing that needs to be said, but cant hadnle the truth, tantrums and says fuck off. i dont understand how your calling him sensitive this is a legitimate thing he cant tel hte nasus no im not gona shut the fuck up because your a garbage ass player who cant do anythign but farm. he cant retaliate with that because then bot lane and mid lane will report him even tho nasus was the one that started it. this is the main issue so instead of being overly cocksure and blowing up your ego actually read what he posted

FullmuteAll play1 votes

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If a teammate makes a mistake, micro or macro, are you allowed to point it out (politely, ofc.)? Or since community is full of a) hard flamers and b) sensitive kids you should only talk to your irl premades EVER?

You are not competent enough to point on someone's mistakes of your or near your level. You ARE allowed, but it leads either to nothing or starting useless shit talking. You can only politely suggest to do something [you want them to do]

Lû Bu1 votes

You assume I'm near his level. I took a fairly long break but I have played this game for years, watched videos, read guides. I know what I'm talking about.

Regardless, politely suggesting was exactly what I did. I wasn't nice, because I don't think we have to be nice, it's something that has to be earned. But I was polite. And got insulted in return and had 2 other random people team up against me which really shocked me.

You see the problem is the average player has a hard time separating someone's attitude (which may be annoying) from the content of his claims (which may be right) and from the form of his words (which may be polite and even nice). All at the same time.

Silly Neeko1 votes

Ive found while listening to music i ignore the flamers and ragers.

By the way, there really is no need to say "sensitive kids". Almost every time i hear person A say that, its because person B said they were going to report them because person A was trolling, cussing up the wazzoo, pointing out EVERY mistake someone may or may not have made in an unconstructive manner, or was saying that person B is..... autistic, retarded, N word, and should not be such a "sensitive kid". That "its life. Deal with it. You will deal with it every day of your life anyways." Etc.

Its not "being a sensitive kid" if you are a jerk.

Not saying that you did that, just that it is completely unneeded and makes you look worse than the people who you are trying to insult.

Ill wait for the "oh so youre one of those sensitive kids" commentary which is nearly assured to follow.

Lû Bu1 votes

You're perfectly right but I couldn't avoid a little rant because, while it's rude to say it out loud, we all know it's the sad truth. And nowadays you have to be politically correct about anything, even "sensitive kids" playing a videogame.

I'm not just ranting now, I mean it: a good chunk of league population is, well, kids. And kids rage and cry and appearently bang everyone's moms.

Silly Neeko1 votes

Except for its those kids that normally are calling everyone "sensitive kids" normally as a troll to get a rise out of people. Theres nothing wrong about saying it, just it makes you look bad.

Awf Meta1 votes

It is not "Leagues community". It is actual people acting that way outside of League as well.

I mostly blame the parents. If the parents actually monitored their children the children would not be acting the way they do.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

I think players like this Nasus are the worst. I hate when they don't communicate and the only reaction you can get is insults or they write hilarious stuff like "x9 [your champion] trolling and toxic"(in all chat ofc), when you just tried to reason with them.

Not even an "you suck because you did xyz wrong", they just tell you that "you suck". Completely empty flames. They are so bad they can't even roast you properly.

But here is the problem, if you mute all and there is 1 player who doesn't talk shit but game related stuff that could help you, then you will decrease your win chances by muting all by default. Same with pings, sometimes you actually get pings about something that you would have missed.

fatherdarius1 votes

It may not be the only way, but it is the BEST and the EASIEST way.

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