With the new rating system I have been reported numerous times for a negative attitude when really the team was just mad at me for having a bad game. In the old report system I thought that the option to report someone for unskilled player was a good way to sort the serious reports from the others.
SmokedAlmonds2 votesI have mixed feelings on the unskilled report option. I do think you are right, its nice to just draw those reports away from real categories. But, I do think it leads people to look for reasons to report someone.
There really isn't any reason to care about being false reported. reports are validated before any punishment is handed out. So the downside of false reporting is really that even those who are false reporting are going to run into people who genuinely deserve it and their reports wont be worth anything when they need it. It's classic boy who cried wolf.
Professor Ward3 votesSmokedAlmonds1 votesNo, they arent.
Yes, they are.
Player behavior systems are not just based on reports. Even if a premade of 4 reported you, if the reports are false, you won't receive a penalty. All player behavior systems are backed by the Report System, which tries to validate every single report. If a report is false, the reporter loses "value" in his reports and the relevant player behavior system ignores the reports. If a report is accurate, the reporter gains "value" and his reports become more powerful. The current Reform System analyzes chat logs for negative behaviors, so it goes beyond just looking at false or accurate reports.
I don't think there are many unjust bans and chat restrictions, and players are definitely not being chat restricted just because of being reported--the system doesn't work off just reports. Secondly, the Report System validates every report, so if you are a player that false or troll reports often your reports are worth nothing to all player behavior systems. If you are a player that reports accurately, your reports become more valuable. All replacement systems directly assess and review chat logs, and all systems have some form of manual review to ensure a high accuracy.
Ø Flex2 votesIntentionally? No, but when the players history shows nothing but "bad games" - there comes a point where it is not tolerable. A high percentage of "toxic players" are toxic solely from players on their team feeding or being unskilled whether it is intentional or not. Now I understand that everyone has a bad game once in a while, but if a player shows the same skill level or lack there of, I believe they should be placed in regs until they either learn to play to where they deserve to play in a competitive scene or create something that gives credentials like ranked but for regs. Having someone in your series to another tier go 0/13/1 in 22 minutes and having them say "I play ranked for fun, I don't care if you think I'm feeding" is asking for toxic behavior, sad thing is the person who is frustrated with that mentality is the one who gets punished.
TrulyBland1 votesI agree it used to be a nice placebo report; but at the same time I feel it creates that sentiment that somehow them playing bad is something you should "report" them over. The amount of people that did not only believe that the report actually does something with their MMR, but also believed that it's absolutely fine that they have the power to reduce somebody's MMR was astonishing. So from that angle, maybe it's better to try a different approach.
Ø Flex1 votesUnskilled is just as bad as negative behavior, in ranked that is.
TrulyBland1 votesUnskilled is just as bad as negative behavior, in ranked that is.
No, it's not. Firstly because there's an entirely different system to deal with that, and secondly because it's not like they're intentionally unskilled.
Cameron342 votesNo, being bad is worse than being toxic. A bad player MAKES the people around him toxic. Every single unskilled report should lower a persons mmr by 10
TrulyBland1 votesWhich, since the ranking system is relative, means the best course of action is to at all times report every single other person for unskilled.
Genius. (Also, way to necro a 10 month old thread)
DREADN0UGHT1 votesIf someone is bad enough to feed without purpose, it may just be a bad game. No report deserved, this is still a videogame. If he is consistently horrible then he will eventually drop elo and u won't ever see him again.
Man, reporting someone for unskilled player was nothing more than a punching bag report for me. Id report people for the gigs with reasons like "has very,very small penis" hoping someone from the tribunal would read and laugh. It was a totally unlegit option, available for people like me who just wanted to feel satisfied after a bad game.
