So Riot permabanned my account for toxic behavior, behavior a result of toxic scripting.

DannyLee1989··3 votes·1,467 views

So my matchmaking experiences has been destroyed by toxic scripters who can multi-que aka party with 4 people on my team, and the opposing team. This is all done through advanced hacking, and programs and my only response to this toxic form of stalking/scripting is to say toxic things in retaliation. What would any normal person do under these same circumstances ? I realize my problem probably extends to the clientside of things, but if Riot had found a way to alter the matchmaking algorithim to deter these kinds of scripts from ever working at all then I would never have this problem in entirety. The fact that my Network, or computer may be compromised is my problem, but the fact of the matter is there is a huge problem with scripters in general, and none of these scripters who are abusing the matchmaking algorithim in order to multi-que are ever banned or punished.

The worst part about this is I attempted to open a support ticket to figure out how I was being stalked by these toxic scripters in matchmaking, and I could not even get a proper response from the support tech. In fact, he ignored everything I said entirely and asked for a bunch of irrelevant non-helpful things that would do nothing at all to help me understand, or prevent these people from finding within matchmaking.

There is a serious problem with toxic hackers/scripters/cheaters in this game, and I think Riot should spend more time figurign out ways to prevent all of this rather than perma banning accounts all the time. Saying toxic things in chat is far less toxic than people who script/cheat/abuse the game in such ways.

Anyway, this was a rant/frustration post but I have every right to vent following the fact my acc was unjustly perma banned.

And all Riot has to do is check the IP Addresses ( if it's possible ? ) or the countries of the people queing in my games, or even watch the games to see what I am saying is 100% accurate, and true.

I mean the seriousness of cheating/scripting in multiplayer games is something most major companies overlook, and do nothing about. People have posted about scripting, multi-que hacking all over the place, so we know it exists. I don't understand how such toxicity could be allowed within any game.

Alter the matchmaking algorithim and keep it secret enough so that NO ONE can ever create scripts, or programs that allow people to multi-que. This is a serious toxic problem and it needs to be resolved by Riot because my matchmaking experience has been destroyed by these pathetic toxic people who use such scripting to ruin my games.

My acc was permabanned for toxic behavior due to the result of a much more toxic problem and that is scripting and multi-que hacking in matchmaking.

I hope that my account being permabanned won't be in vain, and Riot will do something to alter matchmaking enough to end multi-que scripting, and any other form of scripting within the game. I hope that the attempt is at least there, and Riot tries to fix the problem. While I don't necessarily agree with, or condone my behavior, and I am not saying that my behavior is justified by it is a normal human response to what is happening on my accounts.

And if my problem stretches entirely to a client side related problem then I have no one to blame here but myself, but I believe the problem is also within the matchmaking algorithim, and the fact that so much public information is available about how matchmaking works allows hackers to create such scripts.

Truthfully, I am not even a toxic person, and my behavior is the only result of a normal psychological human response to being stalked/trolled/ and pushed into such bad behavior by players who are specifically using matchmaking scripts to target me within normal que.

Again, if I lied about any of this than I give Riot the permission to IP Ban any account that I use.

I hope my acc won't be banned in vain once again as I say.. fix the problem Riot.

Well anyway vent over

25 Comments

Maximum Morde2 votes

Bye.

Weathered2 votes

There is no physical proof that the people in your games are the same people multiple times (unless you have some) or that they are scripting (which I know is a thing, don't argue that). Your account being banned has nothing to do with it, because toxic speech is a completely different thing and is unrelated to scripting. Riot already has a system to catch scripters, and I've witness it work on multiple occasions. Plus, if you understood how hard it would be to create a perfect ban and punishment system for scripting, 3rd party programs, etc, you wouldn't be yelling at Riot to get on it. If they did that, we would have no gameplay, lore, updates at all.

Rather than complaining for someone else to fix a problem you encounter, fix it yourself. If you have a platform or way to counter act this, post it. If not, move on. We all know these things and they won't change with posts like these.

DannyLee19891 votes

How do you obtain physical proof that people are multi-que scripting your solo que games on both teams ? Explain to me how I am suppose to prove something I cannot explain ? They use a 3rd party program, or a script to find me whenever I solo que. It's most likely something Network related on my side, and most likely a computer hacking problem. We all know the capability of a serious computer hacker. But even if it is something client side related, why can't Riot offer me information that may be able to stop it ? Or give me anything I can use to deter this from happening ?

Posting physical proof of the people doing this is impossible if I don't have the source of how they do this. Meaning if I don't know it's happening then what proof can I provide ? The multiple low level accounts they use to do it with ? That proves, or shows nothing at all. They're trolling on multiple accounts specifically targeting me in solo que because they can through some form of match-making alteration.

I'm not yelling on Riot to get on it. I told technical support that I am being stalked in matchmaking through scripts, or 3rd party programs, so can you give me any information that may be helpful in me determining how this is taking place, and they give me absolutely nothing ? That's such a low standard for any company to have, and it show's you just how pathetic of a company they are. They don't take mass stalking through scripting on their servers serious, or something ?

Now I'm sure if you gave me a Platinum level account they would not be able to do this, and this is only possible due to the fact that I am unranked. Obviously there are serious limitations to what people like this can do, but because my account is under 30, and unranked it allows these people to stalk my games, and the proof is blatantly obvious from what is seen in multiple games, over and over. And again, these are trolls who make efforts to hide what they are doing. Proving this would have to go as far into locating the IP Addresses of the accounts they use to see an uncharacteristc pattern that is abnormal which indicates the matchfixing is taking place.

Troll Armada1 votes

you can't, it's pointless to respond to these comments, you know that there are certain things which have made this clear to you, and many people same thing.

OBVIOUSLY, only person who can connect the dots is Riot. they are all behind IP address proxies most likely on virtual machines. This is also why during high level botting/scripting fests like the weekends, you will see bizarre loading times for some players.

There are all sorts of 'give aways' ...I'm not that smart, and I've figured most of them out, so Riot should be able to as well.


The reason you get the same exact comments here over and over is that while Riot was ignoring the problem, the scripters/cheaters had a chance to build several huge communities, which naturally see honest people with integrity as the enemy, and many sit here all day long stewing, just waiting for posts they can neg into oblivion.

Anomander2 votes

Paranoid much?

DannyLee19892 votes

Paranoid much ? Everything I said is 100% factual and real. There is nothing paranoid related. Again, it could be proven by Riot.

I could always try playing on a different Network though to confirm that is entirely client side related.

I imagine this would be the ultimate test, and if it is 100% client side related then I have a hacking problem, and there would nothing Riot could do for me anyway.

Jubbinaut2 votes

Here's my thinking on the situation:

Firstly, to the best of my knowledge, all matchmaking is performed server-side - so there's not really much players can do to ensure they wind up in a game with any particular person. They can queue at the same time and hope, but that would only work through a combination of similar MMR, fantastic timing, and luck. Nothing client-side would be able to affect that.

Secondly, if you're right, and there's a bunch of people stalking you from game to game, you should have something you can give Riot about it - name lists, play styles, etc. - to support your claim. After all, if merely playing the games is enough for you to recognize it, following the metadata available to Riot (IP addresses, player "fingerprints," etc) should allow them to make the same determination, right?

Thirdly, even if your claim is entirely accurate, that's still no excuse for you to resort to toxicity. Riot's stance on retaliation is very straight-forward: retaliation is not acceptable.

Honestly, though, I don't even know how such a thing would be possible. MMR isn't publicly available, and without being able to ensure that you have similar MMR, there's not really even a chance of being in a game with a particular target. Furthermore, with matchmaking being handled server-side, there's not really a meaningful way to manipulate it to force anything, short of directly hacking into Riot's servers. It also seems like a waste - if you can guarantee particular parts of a match, why would you use such a tool to troll some random guy instead of, say, using it to guarantee Ranked wins.

Troll Armada1 votes

I don't want to argue with you, but the OP is 100% right, you don't have to be that smart to start seeing the patterns over and over again. I understand there are psychological phenomenon whereby people associate things which have no connection, but in this case, it's not just this guy.

I've personally seen at least 2 tools which did this before, so... anyway, it's like I said, if riot was serious it would infiltrate the cheat sites, and take them out from the inside subtly....

Paradise Proxy2 votes

>your house gets lit on fire >in retaliation, you light the criminals' entire neighborhood on fire >"WHY DO I HAVE TO GO TO JAIL TOO??"

DannyLee19891 votes

Clearly neither of you read anything I wrote. I appreciate your useless comments though. You're about as useful as Riot technical support.

themachamp2 votes

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Clearly neither of you read anything I wrote. I appreciate your useless comments though. You're about as useful as Riot technical support.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBK9O5nDJlM

They are trying their best :(

DannyLee19892 votes

They are doing nothing to fix the problem of scripting/hacking/cheating on their servers.

NOTHING AT ALL.

ZERO.

NUNCA.

NUMERO UNO.

NOTHING.

TrulyBland3 votes

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They are doing nothing to fix the problem of scripting/hacking/cheating on their servers.

NOTHING AT ALL.

ZERO.

NUNCA.

NUMERO UNO.

NOTHING.

The capslock and the exaggeration make it already difficult to take your post serious... but... Numero uno? How does that even make any sense.

DannyLee19891 votes

Hard to take my post serious ? Everything in my post is serious, and 100% factual. There are a toxic small % of sad people who do exactly whatI described, and the saddest part is that they enjoy doing it. They get enjoyment out of match fixing, and taking advantage of Riot's inability to prevent matchmaking from being destroyed by people who figured out ways to que solo matches with full parties.

Now they can't release information regarding the matchmaking process for their own reasons but if you can't take my post serious it's on you. I have nothing to lie or hide. Why would I waste time writing all of this ? And when people post youtube videos, and sarcastic comments why should I take their comments serious ?

Anyway, Riot is useless confirmed.

Samus723 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBK9O5nDJlM

I love those alien Muppets.

To the OP: you claim the other people are illegally scripting and multiboxing. Yet you then claim you can't prove it. So, I'm confused. Did they script or not? You can't say they did and then not be able to prove it.

Riot is not responsible for YOUR computer. If you think you have malware that allows people to follow you, then you'd better take steps to clean your computer. Riot won't do that for you either.

DannyLee19892 votes

I don't understand how having malware on my computer would allow people to find me in matchmaking though ?

It sounds like you know other people, or know someone who has had the same experience ?

How do you prove that people are scripting, and able to find you in matchmaking ? Other then the fact that it's blatantly obvious when I play what other information do you want to provide ?

The fact that I never encounter a single troll on the enemy team but 100% and literally 100% of the time there is anyone trolling, afking, or anything seldom related it is always on my team ? Any normal person knows the odds of that happening solely on his team is remotely low, because such trolls, grievers, afkers is something everyone experiences especially in low unranked matchmaking. But this is just one example of many others that are obvious.

There are so many characteristic patterns that factually/numerically show this is taking place, and breaking it all down through my own experience would not be enough proof for most people anyway, and no one is going to watch twenty of my games to confirm what I am saying is true for free. No one would do that. Therefor going into depth trying to prove that my experience is indicative of matchfixing through scripts is not going to qualify as good enough proof for most people.

And I don't have access to whatever they use, scripts, programs, or whatever it is they use, and I never said Riot was responsible for the fact that I may have malware on my computer by some hacker that allows these people to find me.

What I said Riot was responsible for is at least informing me, or giving me enough information to actually help me try to stop this. Technical support could have easily said if this is taking place it is probably all client side related. You probably have malware, or someone hacked into your computer and altered game files.

I mean they could have given me any little bit of information so that I could try to figure out how this is happening in the least, but no not a single bit or piece of information to help me at all. Nothing.

Troll Armada1 votes

both of you have classic throwaway account handles. so I'm not taking any of this post seriously.

Troll Armada1 votes

why would they still multi-box when they can just open a bunch of VM clients?

I mean I don't specifically know which is more popular, since I'm not using those tools, but I imagine there is an with a spreadsheet like interface, you put all your fake ass accounts and passwords into the app, and it queues up and probably even plays for you.

you don't have to be smart to do this, you just need like what? $50 bucks, who knows...the OP is largely right, I mean they just don't see to be affected at all or even scared of getting banned for that matter.

Troll Armada1 votes

well there is that big lawsuit against LeagueDullards ...so that's kind of something. Did you know that?

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-08-12-riot-sues-league-of-legends-cheat-makers

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/13/league_of_lawsuits/

Troll Armada1 votes

toxic scripters who can multi-que aka party with 4 people on my team, and the opposing team. This is all done through advanced hacking, and programs and my only response to this toxic form of stalking/scripting is to say toxic things in retaliation.

...this is true, although, i should mention that the scripters are not necessarily as smart as the people who make them, they seem to think that they are good players, and will tell you script does nothing, nobody can script good decision making.

Problem is basic logic is apparently not taught anymore in public schools... Riot can do little about this.


p.s. i feel your pain. old habit die hard, and also it's a natural human behavior to react in some manner to people who you assume are on your side when they stab you in the back.

if your 'toxicity' included racst/sexist/homophobic comments, prolly not getting it back, but otherwise, I would give it a couple more shots with support. who knows Try appealing to their humanity.

Tactrix1 votes

Dude riot doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything but money, they don't know anything about balance, they don't care about fair play, all they care about is lining their pockets and making it appear like their game isn't complete garbage.

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