Dynamic queue is busted

Steelbreaker · 2016-09-17T07:06:51.365Z

Every time I am in a game with a dynamic queue with people they are just toxic af all game and then when you stand up or say something they dont like they just report you and it almost always instantly triggers because they're a 3-4 man group. It's so infuriating that I have seen this so many times, and it's still a thing. We either need to come up with a way to stop this or to work around it because it's happened too many times to people, and I just find it ridiculous. [](https://gyazo.com/b8cba4c75a38f859c8bc3dee8244dfe2) [](https://gyazo.com/f5ade557d9c45d0178872d38ecb283e7)

Steelbreaker·Sep 17, 2016·6 votes·582 views

Every time I am in a game with a dynamic queue with people they are just toxic af all game and then when you stand up or say something they dont like they just report you and it almost always instantly triggers because they're a 3-4 man group. It's so infuriating that I have seen this so many times, and it's still a thing. We either need to come up with a way to stop this or to work around it because it's happened too many times to people, and I just find it ridiculous.

18 Comments

ZombiemasterSep 17, 20162 votes

they just report you and it almost always instantly triggers because they're a 3-4 man group

The fact that they're a 3-4 man group actually doesn't mean anything. Premade reports are only treated as a single report. Riot made it this way specifically so that premade groups don't have any extra power over solo players when it comes to reports.

Also, reports alone do not equal punishment. They simply trigger a review. The system is pretty good at weeding out false reports, so if you don't do anything wrong, you won't be punished.

SteelbreakerSep 17, 20163 votes

Are you sure because it's happened to a friend of mine before, and it just happened to me and I had great games before that one and had actually gotten honored at least once like the past 5 games?

ZombiemasterSep 17, 20161 votes

I do believe that is how the system works based on what I have seen posted by Rioters.

Here's a red post to confirm that reports alone only trigger a review; they do not equal punishment. Also, that false reports are thrown out.

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

Here's a red post to confirm that premade reports, as well as any additional reports for that matter, do not increase the likelihood of triggering a review.

It only takes a single report to trigger a game review. Additional reports or premades do not increase the likelihood of review.

While this isn't exactly what I stated, it's still the same concept. Premade reports have no extra power than a single report.

Now, if you had been punished and wish to discuss it here with the community, you can to post the chat logs you received if you wish. Though you don't have to, if you do, I or one of the other regulars here can go over them and point out what could have contributed to your punishment.

Lastly, as a side note, being honored has no effect on whether you will be punished or not. The honor system and punishment system are completely separate systems that operate independently of each other.

MonkeyMadnessSep 17, 20161 votes

I think you may be wrong about that, unless that was done specifically for this season, because I got a false ban due to a premade a couple years ago.

ZombiemasterSep 17, 20161 votes

If you read my reply to the OP, I have linked comments from Rioters to back up what I have stated, and to my knowledge, it has been like this even back when the old Tribunal voting was up. Though the current system is automated while the old Tribunal was not, the process and rules for being punished has not changed all that much, especially since how the current system operates and generates cases is based on how the old Tribunal did so.

As for your specific case, obviously I don't know anything about it. All I can really say about it is just because you personally believe that it was a false ban does not necessarily mean that Riot believed the same. It could just be a difference of opinion between you and Riot on what is and isn't punishable.

That's not to say that it isn't possible to be falsely punished, because the system definitely is not 100% perfect. If someone gets punished and they were to ask Riot to take a second look at their case, and Riot believes that they did not deserve the punishment, I'm fairly certain that they'd be more than willing to reverse it.

MonkeyMadnessSep 17, 20161 votes

The ban bot does some shady shit tho. I once got a 14 day ban for saying "gg" at 5 mins in. 14 days. for a single line. once. tribunal never would've even banned for that, let alone for 14 days with no other infractions.

ZombiemasterSep 17, 20161 votes

Forgive me for saying this, but unless you can provide evidence, I have a hard time believing that. I know that the system can make mistakes, but the false positive rate has been extremely low from what I have seen.

MonkeyMadnessSep 17, 20161 votes

Of course I don't have evidence, that would require Riot to admit that they made a mistake. Trump has a better chance of being a good president than this actually occurring. All I can tell you is that I have been banned for some incredibly piddly shit, and not just chat banned, I've gotten 14 day banned for single games (no racial slurs/hate speech/kys or anything like that, strictly just negativity).

ZombiemasterSep 17, 20161 votes

Did you not receive a reform card of your chat logs when this ban occurred, either through e-mail or the client? If not, then how do you know that you got a 14 day ban for simply saying "gg" only once and nothing else?

Also, it is completely possible to receive a 14 day ban for a single game, it's just quite rare for that to happen. It doesn't necessarily have to be extreme toxicity like hate speech/slurs/death threats/etc. No where has Riot stated that, those are just examples of behavior that can be escalated, but it can also be less severe toxicity, just a lot of it within one game.

It's also worth noting that the reform cards you receive are designed to only send you 1-3 of the more recent games that contributed to your punishment. Even receive only one game, that doesn't necessarily mean it was the only one that contributed to your punishment. Of course, I'm not saying that this is the case for your bans, just that it's a possibility.

S0kaXSep 17, 20161 votes

only 1 report is enough to trigger the system

SteelbreakerSep 17, 20162 votes

Im not sure if you meant to say no it's not or are saying that it is, but if that was true then people would get chat banned all the time.

S0kaXSep 17, 20161 votes

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Im not sure if you meant to say no it's not or are saying that it is, but if that was true then people would get chat banned all the time.

And how do you know they didn't got banned?

SteelbreakerSep 17, 20161 votes

It would have given the me the thank you message for reporting them.

S0kaXSep 17, 20162 votes

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It would have given the me the thank you message for reporting them.

Then your report wasn't the last, I also reported a very toxic vayne and I'm more than sure he/she got at least chat restricted.

SteelbreakerSep 17, 20161 votes

So you're saying that someone reported them after me?

S0kaXSep 17, 20161 votes

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So you're saying that someone reported them after me?

yes

MonkeyMadnessSep 17, 20161 votes

You only get the message if your report was the one that actually triggered the ban. It's kind of retarded, but then again so is Riot's behavioral analysis team...

LoveLlamasSep 17, 20161 votes

i dont get why its so hard for people to use the MUTE button riot gives you for chat. Just seems to be ignorance from people that want to shit talk to people then complain they got banned for shit talking.