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Story of my life

Coka1naa·6/12/2017, 8:24:04 AM·1 votes·328 views

Hello summoners!

So, I started playing few games today, I'm not much of a flex guy, but I started a flex game. Somehow I got matched up with diamond2 and plat2/5 and a gold4(Me being silver as flex and gold2 as soloduo). As everyone in a lower elo than diamond I said hell yeah, I'm going to win this, I mean I actually got a diamond in my team lol. I've never been so wrong in my entire life. I played as a jungler, and my first gank was in min 3 to my toplaner, the plat 2. After I went behind his enemy laner and tried to gank, he just stood there pinging me back and didn't even bother to follow my lead.That's okay I said, I'll just not waste my time and try my luck somewhere else. After 10 mins of pings and flame for me not helping him, I decided, hell, why shouldn't I help the guy, let me try another gank. Tried my 2nd gank. lowered the enemy HP to 30%(SOLO) and when I tought he was going to help me, my top laner, literally just stood there, and looked at me. After I died and the enemy retreated my top lane went on my dead champ and started laughing. OKAY, lets go to my bot lane. After being trolled by my top lane, went to my bot lane to gank. My support was diamond 2 tought at least he can do as a diamond 2 mage is help. Went out of the bush, but the other bush was warded and my gank failed. Then it began. the diamond started bashing me and shaming me for being in a lower division than her, Asked her nicely to stop mocking me. Then she gave me this answer "I'm not mocking you. It's not nice to mock idiots, you don't mock retards". Okay, as if that was not enough, Went to help my mid lane(After I helped my bot lane few more times, because my adc was doing just bad, and I had to help me, with or whitout the diamond support flaming me.) . After 2 ganks in wich the midlane did not bother to follow me. I was 5/3. And he started calling me a feeder, started asking on global for reports because I am a feeder and I'm inting. Okay, sure, I'm doing my best, have a 60% kill participation, roaming, while farming, not losing any seond because I got some boosted teammates wich I have to carry as a lower elo "idiot ". I was being harrassed and bashed, shamed for being a gold, for not being able to carry my diamonds/plat teammates. So, don't get me wrong, but after this guy makes you idiot, after the top lane lets me die then laughs at me, after my mid laner calls me a feeder when I was the only one actually doing good. you tell me to mute them, right? Because defending myself is bad. Because after those guys mock me and verbally assault me, shutting my mouth and saying nothing is GOOD. Well I'm sorry to break it for you all saints there responding to this post, NOT EVERYONE IS THAT MENTALLY STRONG. If I'm being verbally abused for something I DIDN'T do, I am not going to shut up and ignore anything, how dare you harass me for doing my best? Ignore buttons? Those things help with nothing, it's like he shot me and then I ignore the shot, go to a doctor to fix me then keep playing with him, I was already wounded, how this logic makes sense to any of you riot employees? So when I talk back, and defend myself, saying that they're not willing to cooperate with me, saying that they're such high elo and playing with a poor silver gotta bring some questions about their mmr and how good they actually are. I KEEP BEING HARRASSED. So after 20 mins I just break and answer to their assault. So. My wonderful question is. Lets take this hypotetical situation. If someone comes and stabs you with a knife or shoots you, you don't defend yourself? You just ignore him and after you're wounded, after everything you just call a police and say "oh here, look this guy stabbed me several times and I did nothing to defend myself, come arrest him before I die". That's how this report system works. Muting after being harrased is not helping. You already was harassed and that's not going to change. So after I play 20 mins or more with those guys, after I'm harassed and respond to this abuse to defend myself. Why am I the one getting permabanned? Why is this "fair" ? How is this supposed to be a "fun" game when every 2 or 3 games comes this guy harassing you and YOU GOTTA SHUT YOUR MOUTH BECAUSE IF YOU DEFEND YOURSELF, YOU GET BANNED. YOU GET THE PUNISHMENTS. How is this fair?

5 Comments

ModThe Djinn6/12/2017, 4:40:30 PM2 votes

{quoted}My wonderful question is. Lets take this hypotetical situation. If someone comes and stabs you with a knife or shoots you, you don't defend yourself?

You do, yes. But in this League-related parallel you have this magical button called the "mute" button that means as soon as he looks ready to attack you you're teleported to safely to a beach somewhere with no lasting harm done. If that existed in the real world suddenly responding to a knife attack with violence is a severe overreaction.

The metaphor also falls apart because your life isn't in any danger, nor does responding with toxicity prevent the attack. It's not "self defense:" it's being an asshole towards another asshole, creating twice as many toxic players.

Seriously -- imagine you're in a restaurant, and another patron starts throwing racial slurs at you. You decide to respond by shouting equally loudly that he's a moron. He may have started it, but you're BOTH getting kicked out for causing a scene, and rightfully so.

Remember -- you are not banned for responding to toxic players. You are banned for responding to toxic players in a toxic manner. That choice of HOW to respond is entirely up to you.

If you care to show your chat logs we can show you where the problem areas are.

Aptest6/12/2017, 9:57:04 AM1 votes

I did not read the whole of your post. I believe the bulk of it is that you had a horrible experience being verbally harassed by some pricks. Please correct me if there's more to it than that.

I would like to respond to your question with one of my own: Is a stabbing or a shooting equivalent to being called names? What makes you think you are justified in arguing this equivalence?

We can talk about the intricacies of defending yourself VS just being a douche back, but first I really would like you to answer my question.

Silent Gravity6/12/2017, 8:36:49 PM1 votes

When you're verbally abused, you are allowed to defend yourself, if you want. Enemy: "You ate tacos last night and that makes you a bad person!" (Edited for language) Your perfectly acceptable defense: "That is untrue."

Look! Defense!

Strangely, defending yourself doesn't seem to have much effect on the person attacking you, so really, it's not necessary. Attacking them back also has no effect on them, aside from encouraging their aggression, so that's not useful either. Mute and report solves it, for the game you're stuck in, and potentially for future games that the aggressor would otherwise ruin.

After someone has attacked you, and you've appropriately defended yourself, there isn't much use in keeping communication open with them. Mute to save the hassle. Also, continuing to have a back-and-forth with the one attacking you, even if you're using defense, is a distraction to both you and the rest of your team, it'd be better to just focus on the game.