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Champ Select Trolling

KenjiShiguma··2 votes·530 views

I've been playing this game since Season 2, and this never used to happen in the old draft pick system OR in team builder.

In the current draft system, players can select their role before the game starts, and then when the champ select begins, players can declare their pick intent. I main Kled Kled , and have over 500 games with him since his debut. Although I primarily play him Top, sometimes I will take him Mid or even Bottom.

To often than not, when I've selected Mid or Bottom, and the my pick intent as Kled, someone on my team decides to either:

  1. Ban Kled altogether, so I can't play him (after asking me if I plan on taking him in the roles I was given)
  2. Take Kled from me regardless of their role just so that I can't play it.
  3. Insult me with self righteous comments like "Stupid Silver Logic..." (even though I'm in Gold)

So now, I can't enjoy the game as intended because my own teammates are interfering with my ability to play the game as I want. What am I supposed to do here? Why do other people feel the need to interfere with what their own teammates are bringing to the table? This isn't Smiteless Jungle, or buying Mana on a Manaless champion.

Throughout my 5.5 years playing League of Legends, I've noticed:

Mid: AD Fighters and AD Casters Gangplank JarvanIV Jayce Jhin Khazix LeeSin Malzahar (AD) MasterYi Pantheon Riven Talon MonkeyKing Yasuo Yorick

Go Mid, with nobody complaining, and

Bottom: Melee Carries Fiora Gangplank MasterYi Mordekaiser Tryndamere Yasuo

Go Bottom without a problem.

How am I supposed to tolerate this behavior from my own teammates? Seriously, what am I supposed to do?

12 Comments

Kynin2 votes

People have been asking for a way to report people in the lobby to stop trolling. I don't think Riot said much about it. "report them in the end game screen" is all advice I have gotten. I have a similar issue. Taliyah support.

Chermorg2 votes

Riot has not added a pre-game report because there are almost no examples of trolling that present pre-game. Champion stealing/banning of other players selected champions is not punishable. Trolling does not manifest in poor choices or off-meta choices, but requires in-game play to show, thus they can just be reported after the end of game screen.

About the only thing that could be reported in pre-game chat is toxicity. But I don't think people regularly dodge games for toxicity, and so they can just report that at the end of game screen as well.

FightORFlight2 votes

Why do you assume the other person trolls you personally? Mb he encountered the champ last game, lost to it heavily and doesnt want to see it anymore

KenjiShiguma2 votes

It's not an assumption when they directly say:

"I'm not letting you play that", then do just that.

FightORFlight1 votes

Pick another champion? If you only have one then you dont belong in ranked

KenjiShiguma4 votes

Why should a teammate be allowed to interfere with another teammates pick?

The Leo Cat2 votes

I don't know what genius allowed that in the code. But the best solution right now is to not hover a champion until the bans are done. Or hover a different champion than you intend to play, and then select the champion you want to play.

Chermorg2 votes

If they wanted to ban or pick kled, why should you be allowed to interfere with that?

KenjiShiguma1 votes

Because it's on edge with your team; it's one thing if the champion is not hovered, and then you try to complain. However, if your own teammate says "Hey guys, this is what I'm doing", and then another teammate goes against your will, they are setting the team up to lose by destroying any trust and removing tools from their own team's toolkit. That's what I have a problem with; in my video game that would not be allowed if your own teammate hovers their champ.

Chermorg1 votes

No, it's not "on edge". You must understand that it's a team game. There is no longer any form of captain, boss, or leader for teams. Each person makes their own informed decision as to what champion to ban and pick in modes that have bans.

If they thought the best ban was kled, they would ban kled. If you wanted to play kled, sorry, play another champion this game.

Just as you're free to ban/pick any champion you want, the other 4 players on your team are free to ban/pick any champion they want. This includes banning or even picking your chosen champion.

KenjiShiguma1 votes

How do you feel about the self righteous culture of some players where they believe they are better then you, try to belittle you by assuming you're low rank, and claim that the '"META" is the only way the game can be played', something that changes every week, even though typically until a YouTuber or "Pro in LCS" does exactly what you've done mathematical and statistical research for and attempt to demonstrate, they preemptively assume you can't do it, and try to tell YOU, the player, how to play the game?

I don't know when you started playing the game, but years ago players took their champions in essentially any role they saw fit, and other players had no problem with it. There used to be Sona ADC, Urgot Top, Burst AP Sion/Crit Sion (pre-rework), AD Malzahar, Ziggs Jungle, etc. There was more strategic options in the game, and even though there was a "META", players didn't treat it like a rule of law.

As a veteran player and upcoming game developer who researches the game itself and tinkers, leaving options open this new culture in the game is unenjoyable and unacceptable. Players should trust their teammates and let them play the game, especially in a ranked setting where players are expected to bring their best to the table. I've never in the 1000+ games I've played have seen such a culture.

What's your take?

FightORFlight1 votes

It all comes down to elo youre playing in... im currently low plat and im about 50/50 when someone picks something unorthodox.. i would trust diamonds+ completly and have complete lack of faith in elo lower than plat.. reasoning is that even if things dont go as planned, diamonds will compensate with knowledge of teamplay and map awareness, trying to make the best of it, while low elo players give up, blame team, flame, the whole 9 yards and plat is somewhere in between... players have solid champ knowledge and average teamplay and map awareness.

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