Why Riot?

TSM Ven·12/25/2016, 2:44:06 AM·2 votes·704 views

Why is it that I have to get permabanned just because one person part of a trio queue finds something I said to be offensive and gets the whole squad to report me? I've been spending hundreds on this game and I think I've finally opened my eyes and saw what Dunkey did. The community is shit and so are the people in charge.

12 Comments

2ManyThreshGames12/25/2016, 3:03:08 AM2 votes

I'm sorry to hear about that man. Best of luck...

Void Nargacuga12/25/2016, 3:06:50 AM2 votes

9 people reporting you has no more strength then if one person reported you.

May I suggest posting your chat logs?

Martensitic12/25/2016, 4:18:03 PM1 votes

because people who use LCS tags as summ. name deserve it.

jokes aside, post your chatlogs. i am pretty sure most people would have reported you

ModPrandine12/25/2016, 4:48:47 PM1 votes

From Riot Tantram:

Actually, Erdrik is correct here.

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

Also if you were permabanned then it means that you had 3 previous punishments and still refused to change your behavior for the better. If you want a review of your case then post your entire unedited chat logs here in this thread.

Dunkelkoon12/26/2016, 2:11:03 AM1 votes

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Why is it that I have to get permabanned just because one person part of a trio queue finds something I said to be offensive and gets the whole squad to report me? I've been spending hundreds on this game and I think I've finally opened my eyes and saw what Dunkey did. The community is shit and so are the people in charge.

Completely agree with you man and Yes, Dunkey made perfect since when he quit playing.

ModPrandine12/26/2016, 2:35:27 AM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=TSM Ven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vRERIzly,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-12-25T02:44:06.959+0000)

Why is it that I have to get permabanned just because one person part of a trio queue finds something I said to be offensive and gets the whole squad to report me? I've been spending hundreds on this game and I think I've finally opened my eyes and saw what Dunkey did. The community is shit and so are the people in charge.

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Completely agree with you man and Yes, Dunkey made perfect since when he quit playing.

Since you both brought up dunkey:

What do you think about vgdunkey's ban?

It's really unfortunate. Many Rioters love Dunkey's content, and I've unloaded my share of "Not even close babyyyyy" jokes around the office; however, we really can't show favoritism to someone just because they are a pro or a known content creator. This isn't really a debate about whether trashtalking is OK or not OK in games; we've talked a lot in the past about how we're OK with players bantering with their friends but you should be careful when interacting with strangers who may not understand your intentions--especially if you're using hate speech or slurs. We have a zero tolerance policy against hate speech, racism, homophobia, and sexism and that policy stands whether you're a random player, a pro player, or a Youtube celebrity.

This also really wasn't a case about intentional feeders and whether it's OK to be toxic towards other toxic players--there wasn't even a Malphite in the game that got him banned and either way, retaliation just isn't OK because it makes the experience worse for everyone else in the game.

We know that players have been asking us to be more aggressive against intentional feeders for awhile, and it has taken us a bit longer than we'd like. We do consider gameplay toxicity just as serious as verbal toxicity, and are launching a new Intentional Feeder Detection system in 5.18 that can ban feeders within 15 minutes of matches. We're starting with conservative settings to make sure the system would not ban players for having the rare bad game, even if it was a 0-10 type of bad game but this is a great first step to aggressively tackling intentional feeders.

At the end of the day, this incident sucks for everyone. We respect that Dunkey hasn't posted his Reform Card, and I'm not going to post it either. Best wishes to him in the future.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/F0ARMdb4-riot-lyte-on-dunkeys-ban

EvilDustMan12/30/2016, 11:02:35 PM1 votes

Chatlogs.