Correlation Study "Are Lower Elo's More Likely to be Banned?"

UnNamed1·Oct 11, 2016·13 votes·1,123 views

Hello everybody!

This post is mostly directed towards the members of Riot who patrol these boards. I was recently assigned a project in one of my college courses and thought it interesting to do the study on one of my favorite games that I devote a lot of time to. The assignment was to come up with a study and find if there is any correlation between two things. This is where i have to turn to Riot though, as i have no way of obtaining the information I would need for such a study. What I want to do is find if there is any correlation between rank and the percentage of bans in that elo.

For example, I would expect a much higher percent of bans at a lower elo than at a higher one.

Specifically the data I am looking for is what percent of total players in each elo get banned. Personally I find this to be really interesting and think that it would be fascinating to find if the lower elo players are indeed banned more often than those in higher elo.

I'd love if this could get noticed by a Rioter and to see if I can make this study happen, so I ask you, League community, make this post "hot" for me <3

Thanks, KnightofDestiny

22 Comments

AstôlfoOct 11, 20163 votes

Lower ELO players are probably more likely to be banned, but their ELO itself isn't the reason, but rather moreso the mindset of "ELO hell" and everyone except them being worse/having to "carry" their teammates, etc, which leads to and fosters toxicity between each other.

Troll ArmadaOct 11, 20162 votes

garbage. every toxic behavior in league is more likely to occur in the low elos.

Which is why I consistently see bronze players with perfect mechanics (scripting) doing really dumb things (walking away from towers, aimlessly wandering map) and being verbally abuse to the team.

AstôlfoOct 11, 20165 votes

I'm saying the ELO isn't the reason, but rather, the mindset of people in said ELO.

Troll ArmadaOct 11, 20162 votes

elo-hell isn't the myth.

elo-hell doesn't exist and it's all in your mind, that's the myth.

AstôlfoOct 11, 20163 votes

I never said it exists, hence, "MINDSET" of ELO hell, aka, the perception it exists. Of course it doesn't exist. That's bullcrap made up by people who don't want to admit they're shit.

Troll ArmadaOct 11, 20162 votes

keep drinking that Riot Kool-Aid™

http://i.imgur.com/YSzVcbE.gif

XinZhao2WinNhaoOct 11, 20161 votes

I don't think so.

Lower elo players are less likely to report than higher elo players who try really hard to win the game whereas low elos don't care as much.

I think it's a combination of 2 bell curves with the highest at silver and plat.

AstôlfoOct 11, 20162 votes

Fair enough. The elitist/severe mindset of Plat/etc would affect it, yeah.

EndlessSorcererOct 11, 20161 votes

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Platinum was rather high up on the curve.

In my experience, it is far more toxic that Gold ELO. I didn't spend enough time in Silver to notice, but I don't remember it being that bad either.

Best Kog NAOct 11, 20161 votes

As a statistics junkie. If you do get raw data. Can you notify me if that's possible? It would really be a really cool opportunity to look at the actual numbers.

UnNamed1Oct 11, 20163 votes

If I do, and Riot lets me share the data/results, of course. I don't know how strict they would be about the data or if I will even be able to. But worth asking right?

Best Kog NAOct 11, 20161 votes

For sure

Pantheon ForeverOct 11, 20161 votes

Just type banned into search forums and track down the profiles of players claiming to be banned and get a running total of banned players for each rank. Decide how much data you want like 10/100/1000 then go to a different site to track what % of population is in each rank. Next compare the total of banned players at each rank to the % of players at that rank. Finally find out total amount of players and compare that to your sample size as it should help the statistic's guy draw a better bell curve, standard deviations and such.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution

http://www.riotgames.com/articles/20140711/1322/league-players-reach-new-heights-2014

(some example sites although more accurate or up to date information may be available with further probing on google)

Best Kog NAOct 11, 20169 votes

That would lead to bias. Not all banned players post on the forums.

Troll ArmadaOct 11, 20161 votes

given that riot don't give too poops about low elo players, I would say yes.

XinZhao2WinNhaoOct 11, 20161 votes

I think plat is more likely to get banned because they're more likely to report.

Blast DeadliftOct 11, 20161 votes

MAKE THIS SHIT HOT BOIZ I WANNA KNOW WHY I KEEP RIPPIN ACCTS AT LOW ELO.. o wait i dont need a study for that.

Also it wouldn't prove a causal link because perhaps it is the fact that toxic players are just overall worse at the game and therefore in low elo and this is why they are banned.

Great MutaOct 12, 20161 votes

I've been suspended on two accounts 3 times in Bronze.

People play so badly and are so clueless that its hard to tell the trolls from the non-trolls.

TalisidOct 12, 20161 votes

Well obviously most banned players are going to be in Bronze or Silver that's where 70% of the players are located.

Once you take that into account I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slight bias towards banned players being lower Elo specifically because flaming your teammates frequently puts them on tilt and this harms your chances of making a comeback in a losing game or giving the 1-2 strong players on your team a chance to make plays and carry.

OleandervineOct 12, 20161 votes

Lower ELO and banning would be a false correlation due to other factors that affect how and why people get banned. People get banned due to frustration with the game and expressing such frustration in a negative way. Leading to this frustration is a number of factors, but foremost is lack of skill and lack of team cohesiveness. Only a small part of frustration actually stems from malevolent players seeking to ruin experiences. MMR is a key factor for as to how people get banned, and low MMR player pools are at all ranks. Bad players and malevolent players are dumped into the same pool due to their losing and lower MMR, leading to players with low skill being highly exposed to players who want to grief. This in turn leads to a bubbling frustration that leads to outbursts because of all these problems that swirl into a giant mess. This is also how ELO hell is born, because it can be increasingly difficult to climb out of your rank if you are dumped into the player pool of those with low MMR. Such situations also exist in the real world, where minor felons go to prison and become exposed to harder criminals who often get the minor felons wrapped up in their behaviors and lifestyle that then creates worse behavior in the minor felon on release.