I just got banned for no reason

ΛLCATERAZ··1 votes·891 views

I just got perma banned for no reasons it says i used 3rd part programs which i only used once and then i deleted it and riot just banned my account anyway they didnt even bother to send a warning first i have send tickets but there is no reply yet so please help i just used it once and it didnt give me any advantage it was just custom skins can i get my account back i have spent so much money on it Im not toxic or a cheater i just used a custom skin help pleaese

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Coopa1236 votes

banned for no reason

it says i used 3rd part programs which i only used once

Well you did use it. So saying you got banned for no reason is false. There is a valid reason you got banned.

Your account with all your champions, masteries, runes and skins is gone. And you won't be getting your account back.

Remember not to break the ToU next time

ΛLCATERAZ1 votes

It wasn't against ToU riot said that using custom skins are okay and the program which i used one didn't give me any advantages in the game it was just custom skins

Coopa1231 votes

As soon as you use a skin that Riot offers for RP you're breaking the ToU

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

If you feel your punishment was an error you should submit a Support Ticket. Riot does not currently ban for custom skins (if they don't provide an unfair advantage), but if you were using a program that provides other services which are bannable, you will be banned even if you don't use that particular feature. If you happened to have been using MKjogo, that is one of those programs which have illegal features and you'll be banned even if you only use the custom skins.

Aptest1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vEsGuvwe,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-12T10:58:01.915+0000)

If you feel your punishment was an error you should submit a Support Ticket. Riot does not currently ban for custom skins (if they don't provide an unfair advantage), but if you were using a program that provides other services which are bannable, you will be banned even if you don't use that particular feature. If you happened to have been using MKjogo, that is one of those programs which have illegal features and you'll be banned even if you only use the custom skins.

Please refrain from using the term "illegal" in this context. It is erroneous and misleading.

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

No. Illegal does not just apply to government law as you are probably suggesting. It is perfectly acceptable to describe the rules of a game as its "law", so is appropriate in this context.

https://i.gyazo.com/f92092b1a31bf748063578abf75a2e69.png

Aptest1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vEsGuvwe,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-12T11:55:00.489+0000)

No. Illegal does not just apply to government law as you are probably suggesting. It is perfectly acceptable to describe the rules of a game as its "law", so is appropriate in this context.

https://i.gyazo.com/f92092b1a31bf748063578abf75a2e69.png

The place where you took your definition has an erroneous definition. Illegal is only referring to against law. In addition to that, there are no official rules to this game. Only a contract. It is legal to breach contracts, therefore it can not be illegal to go against the TOS/EULA.

Please refrain from using erroneous and misleading terminology, S.A. referring to breach of contract as "illegal"

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

Oh merriam-webster is unreliable now? Didn't know that.

Aptest1 votes

if they define illegal in this way, than yes.

and you should know better ;p

Aptest1 votes

P.S.

Think about it this way: Is it legal or illegal to violate a contract? If it is illegal, than the state must come to contract breaker's house with guns and take them to prison. If it is legal, than illegal can not also mean breaking a contract.

there is no such thing as "official rules" to this game. Specifically not in the context referred to by merriam-webster. There is a contract. That players sign. It can be breached. It is legal to breach it.

ModWuks2 votes

Last response to put an end to this back-and-forth:

You're arguing semantics. The term illegal can refer to the enforcement of rules of a social institution, in this case, Riot Games. Your violation of contract is illegal in the sense that it violates this system of rules, and as such Riot has the right to enact punishments for these violations. But I really hate arguing semantics when the point of the original poster is blatantly clear. If there is a different concern, we'd have no issue discussing it, but this point is moot.

Aptest1 votes

The term illegal can refer to the enforcement of rules of a social institution

no it can not. As you can see from Meriam webster, the second kind of usage "legal" has is as in "is this a legal move" in chess and such. Not appropriate in this context.

I ask that you do not use erroneous and misleading terminology.

I am not arguing DTN's point. I am arguing his (?) erroneous usage of language. Since you are apparently making the same mistake, I ask the same of you.

Kei1432 votes

ehh.. on a community board, you should stick to community jargon, else it would confuse them more.

Look at NAKayle's old post, the community blew up for misunderstanding his click bait title, cos the community frequently uses "bannable" and "punishable" interchangeably, but his definition of "bannable" means "direct 14-day ban (like hate speech)".

Aptest1 votes

not adhering to the eula or tos can not and should not be refereed to as illegal because illegal has a very specific meaning.

Kaioko1 votes

{quoted}

The place where you took your definition has an erroneous definition. Illegal is only referring to against law. In addition to that, there are no official rules to this game. Only a contract. It is legal to breach contracts, therefore it can not be illegal to go against the TOS/EULA.

Please refrain from using erroneous and misleading terminology, S.A. referring to breach of contract as "illegal"

This post just makes me sad... There's no country in both Europe and North America where your definition would work so I can't give you credit for even not understanding English or applying the laws of another country.

Aptest1 votes

You are invited to find a country where the state enforces the adherence to contracts...

...as opposed to the consequences of breaking them.

ModUlanopo2 votes

That would be the good-ol' US of A. It is very possible to petition the court to compel compliance with a valid contract. Haven't you ever heard of a garnishment?

Aptest1 votes

that's for breaking a contract. not same thing

ΛLCATERAZ1 votes

Thanks for your reply the program didn't have any features it was just custom skins and its was only once and its not fair at all to get banned for such a thing i have spent over 200 dollars on my account and in my country riot point isn't cheap

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

While they don't normally ban for custom skin mods, the exceptions would be a skin that provides a measurable advantage (like making your skillshot hitboxes more visible) or if the program you're using has other features which are against the rules (whether you used those particular features or not).

Sarutobi4 votes

I dont want to sound rude, but why does Riot need to warn you first for obviously breaking the rules? Like it just doesnt make any sense to me.

ΛLCATERAZ1 votes

I did not break any rules i just used a custom skin ONCE

Hyperiön1 votes

Custom skins won't trigger the 3rd party programs flag.

You see people use them all the time on streams.

If anything, it was probably a false negative. If you actually are telling the truth, make a ticket.

aZ3R0n1 votes

A lot of players seem to be experiencing the same issue, and you'll need to send in a support ticket and talk to the Riot staff: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/requests/new

They do bans for using third party software in waves, and sometimes mistakes are made. Politely explain your situation and be patient, it will take up to a day for you to get your first reply. Continue to explain your situation and mention that there have been many players speaking up on the forum about being banned by mistake during this wave and ask for a manual review of your account. If Riot conducts the review and finds that you indeed did nothing wrong then your account will have the ban removed.

The key here is patience as you go through the motions. Good luck! [slayer-jinx-catface]

PlsCheckThisBush1 votes

I've been using custom skins for years and have never had any issues with it. Put in a Support ticket, and if you are actually 100% telling the truth they can investigate this further for you. The only thing I can think (as DTM has said) is if you gain a measurable advantage over your opponents then it has violated the rules, however MOST custom skins I've come across are very small texture mods that provide a more enjoyable experience that Riot's Official Skins do not have yet (say, Pool Party Heimerdinger with rubber ducky turrets, for instance).

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