What Really Ruins League of Legends

Sin City Grinder·May 24, 2016·5 votes·1,287 views

It's not toxic players.

It's the players that cause them to be toxic such as Feeders, AFKer's, Trolls, people who go sona, get pulled by blitz and give up first blood, then are 0-3-0 at 5:44 into match, and players that just genuinely don't really belong in ranked and ruin people's ranked experience or make unfair matches.

How can riot tell me the ranked system is fair when I'm in my promos dropping 30 kills and 17 assists losing because 5v4, then not even given a fair chance at a real match because top lane is 0-4 vs Garen and bot lane is 0-8 vs vayne and blitz. meanwhile I'm mid lane 1-0-0.

It's not the toxic community. It's the players who know they arent good enough to be in ranked and just troll, or buy gold accounts or get boosted to silver and troll... its so frustrating.

my rant is over, thank you.

13 Comments

FiruMay 24, 20164 votes

Have you never played against a team that had an AFK or someone having a bad game like the one you described? I imagine you only recall the few time when it happens on your team (made more salient when it happens during promos) than all the other times it happens in your advantage.

Icestar1186May 24, 20164 votes

If you can't handle your anger healthily, I don't want you in my games. The toxic players are the problem. They need to get over themselves and learn not to let things get to them. Frankly, I find it ironic that the people who tell everyone "grow some thicker skin" or "just deal with it" are the ones who actually do need to learn to let things go.

The JigSAWMay 24, 20163 votes

You are absolutely right, it is unfair. It is also why I left ranked to head into normal and casual games, like the weekend rotating queues.

I mean, no game can be fair when smurfs exist and are legal and even encouraged. Plat/diamond players going on bronze accounts and leveling their friends through dynamic queue is legal, although it should NOT be, but I don't believe we'll ever see a day when that gets banned.

My advice to you is to do what many people I know and I myself have done: Leave ranked to the wannabe pros, and just have fun in casual games. Remember what it was like to have fun and try new builds and enjoy time with friends, because ranked is pretty much the anti-thesis of all of those things.

MasterSomethingMay 25, 20161 votes

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I mean, no game can be fair when smurfs exist and are legal and even encouraged. Plat/diamond players going on bronze accounts and leveling their friends through dynamic queue is legal, although it should NOT be, but I don't believe we'll ever see a day when that gets banned.

Smurfs are legal, but only because they cannot always be caught. Maybe a player is familiar with MOBAs and is genuinely new to League. It's certainly not encouraged, though. Also, account sharing and leveling IS illegal. Usually ends up in a perma. Some people have indeed been banned even through innocent account sharing.

The JigSAWMay 25, 20161 votes

I'm pretty sure the IP traces can prove effective on linking accounts.

I'm also not talking about shared accounts. I'm talking about Barry the Plat III who helps Joe the Bronze III get to Silver/Gold with another account he purposely did poorly on to get ranked in Bronze IV so he could team with his friend and carry the games. Not only does it put Joe in a bad place where he can't compete without Barry but it also makes five people lose a game they probably shouldn't have been in since there was a Plat player carrying it although they didn't know, but, there's obviously ways to detect people who are -way- too good to be what their level indicates.

I don't have a problem with somebody making another account just to play with friends in case their main one is hacked or they don't want to be bothered by people they know and just want to play for a weekend on the featured modes, its the people who -specifically- do it for ranked games that need to lose their highest rank and have the account banned to provide an effective deterrent to players who think about doing the same thing in the future.

MasterSomethingMay 25, 20161 votes

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I'm pretty sure the IP traces can prove effective on linking accounts.

What if that person is playing on a college campus, hm? What if that is someone else, hm?

I'm also not talking about shared accounts. I'm talking about Barry the Plat III who helps Joe the Bronze III get to Silver/Gold with another account he purposely did poorly on to get ranked in Bronze IV so he could team with his friend and carry the games. Not only does it put Joe in a bad place where he can't compete without Barry but it also makes five people lose a game they probably shouldn't have been in since there was a Plat player carrying it although they didn't know, but, there's obviously ways to detect people who are -way- too good to be what their level indicates.

So you are salty that people use DQ to carry their friends? Honestly, if a good player can carry himself, his shitty friend, and people decent for that elo to his rank, I'd call that impressive.

I don't have a problem with somebody making another account just to play with friends in case their main one is hacked or they don't want to be bothered by people they know and just want to play for a weekend on the featured modes, its the people who -specifically- do it for ranked games that need to lose their highest rank and have the account banned to provide an effective deterrent to players who think about doing the same thing in the future.

Well, it's not technically against the rules as long as you aren't touching their account. If it was against the rules, it would be hella hard to enforce.

The JigSAWMay 25, 20161 votes

IP Traces - Honestly, you have a point. I suppose there needs to be a new detection system invented but right now, can't figure one out that'd be able to pinpoint a specific person at all times other than IP but you are right about those public computers.

DQ boosting - I'm not salty at all. I don't do ranked because it isn't fun, whatsoever, and I did play it for a while and did well but the rewards were not worth it. Let's be honest, you really think that a new player on their first 6 months on League who just hit silver should have to fight a diamond and plat player on a 3vs3 or a 5vs5? Now, what if that player had to play against people who seemed to be bronze/early silver but weren't? They have no clue what happened to them. When they find out, they usually ask how it can be allowed... frankly, I have no answer other than 'it really shouldn't be.'

Oh, and people -can- carry teams like that with specific champions who are basically hypercarries. I think this entire situation is really being underestimated and not addressed because people want to make use of it for their own ranked advancement or some other agenda. If it is illegal to buy a boost, it should be illegal to boost somebody on an account that is falsely representative of your actual rank (Plat smurf using silver V account) since it is cheating no matter how you look at it - somebody uses the assistance of another person to gain a reward they cannot get themselves.

On an unrelated note, I've been able to carry games against some good people because I really know my champion and what I can do with them, and it makes me proud I can do that when years ago I'd struggle just to break even on k/d/a. If you know your champion you can do amazing things after a few hundred or thousand games using them.

MasterSomethingMay 25, 20161 votes

Well, it really comes down to this: It's really hard to detect smurfs, which is not illegal. And while there are ways to prevent high elo boosting with your main, it can't be done on smurfs, because detecting them all precisely and stopping them would take too many resources, and generally be a waste of time sometimes.

AstôlfoMay 24, 20163 votes

Ranked has divisions. The people in each division are people of generally equal skill. So what does that say about yourself when you're shit-talking your fellow division Ranked players?

XanitMay 24, 20162 votes

No... It's the horrible balance. It's the new champions being all skillshots and delayed abilities, but the old ones having instant targeted disables, free mobility, gap closers, and instant death combos that are just point and click.

The game is not fair. It's incredibly aggressive, kill-focused, and only feeds players' hate for each other. Everyone stomps each other into the dirt, even teammates. Nothing is fun. The whole game is not fun anymore.

You're only rewarded for choosing OP champions.

This is what causes toxicity. The game.

archerno1May 24, 20162 votes

Everyone belongs in ranked. Thats why we have divisions.

Pandemic PunchMay 25, 20162 votes

If you were good enough, nothing would hold you back from climbing.

FovereMay 24, 20161 votes

I agree behaviors cause a lot of the verbal exchanges that people make into such a big deal.

As far as ranked gameplay goes, before S6 it was self-normalizing. Low silver/high bronze was probably the most toxic, but you'd fall or climb out and it would be fine for the most part, once you got away from all the re-rolled accounts, etc.

This season pretty much anything goes