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Perma banned for what???!

zMnJohn··1 votes·850 views

What am I banned for?

Verbal Abuse, Hate Speech, Negative attitude, Inappropriate Name, Cheating

The only one that I think could be a possibility is negative attitude

"game 1 : gj on giving fizz a triple kill, made a stupid decision, i chose not to get involved"

thats it, and that was me responding to my team harassing me. I never curse, I never even use a adjective of any kind on another person.

In game 2 I clearly state " I don't talk that was my whole point" " I have zero interest in a interaction with u"

In all 3 games Ive had players say they were going to report me for not doing what they wanted. Is me not following the orders of every teammate bannable now?

I know people will say that Im a troll or I don't cooperate with team, please see the below for game stats from the chat logged games, also in my last 50 games I average 2 deaths per a game and have ONLY TWO games with over 5 deaths. EVERYTHING POSTED CAN BE VERIFIED in my match history

**GAME 1 **
sona 0/4/1
tahm 5/3/0
TWITCH (me) 1/0/1
diana 0/7/1
heim 0/7/0 half enemy cs

GAME 2 ASHE(me) 15/0/8 karma jungle 4/10/7 clearly trolling ekko 4/7/6 behind 350 cs gragas 2/9/10 behind 70 cs soraka 1/8/16

GAME 3 KOG(ME) 3/4/8 lee 3/6/7 fiddle(support) 7/4/4 cass 1/8/6 teemo 7/8/10

The below info is not to toot my own horn but will probably be relevant if there are any responses to this post, everything below is also easily verifiable

twitch: 28/4/2, 23/1/11 ashe: 15/0/8, 7/2/9
soraka: 2/0/10, 0/2/20, 3/0/17
vayne: 24/2/8
Katarina: 22/2/10
Thresh: 4/1/13
Lee Sin: 4/1/15
Renekton: 15/5/4

CHAT LOGS

Game 1 zMnJohn: mute all zMnJohn: nice stun zMnJohn: i see everything zMnJohn: i have pings on silent zMnJohn: nothing u can tell me i dont already know zMnJohn: gj on leashing drag for them zMnJohn: gj on giving fizz a triple kill zMnJohn: u guys dont want to egnage? fine with me ill split push zMnJohn: u took my cannon zMnJohn: thanks to YOUR dragon call zMnJohn: gj zMnJohn: god forbid u guys build mr zMnJohn: heim better build more armor zMnJohn: u made a stupid decision zMnJohn: i chose not to get involved zMnJohn: u took my cannon minion sona zMnJohn: u last hit my cannon minion zMnJohn: u left me to 2v1 lane so u could go feed fizz at drag zMnJohn: nah im doing fine zMnJohn: gj zMnJohn: nice leash zMnJohn: again zMnJohn: i am playing zMnJohn: im just not following your poor decisions zMnJohn: diana in jung zMnJohn: instead of mid zMnJohn: is that trolling? zMnJohn: see zMnJohn: why would i follow u zMnJohn: we lost mid and u in jungle zMnJohn: i use ulti u all run away zMnJohn: dont harass me again zMnJohn: so diana u gonna report zMnJohn: me for not following ur orders zMnJohn: but u farming jungle while we lose turret and inhib zMnJohn: but lets all follow u zMnJohn: because u make great decisions zMnJohn: i dont understand zMnJohn: u all dont know how to use minimap? zMnJohn: u saw our base zMnJohn: and u decide to all go die top lane zMnJohn: do u guys have any logic behind ur actions? zMnJohn: not me zMnJohn: im fine zMnJohn: im where im suppose to be

Game 2 zMnJohn: were the 3 adc bans really necessary? zMnJohn: my pings are on silent zMnJohn: ping all u want zMnJohn: lol zMnJohn: i wasnt but i only have 4 adcs zMnJohn: and u banned 3 of them zMnJohn: i said everything i wanted to say in lobby zMnJohn: karma isnt here zMnJohn: ekko is 100 cs behind zMnJohn: at 15 zMnJohn: this game is actually unwinnable zMnJohn: lol gragas 0-6 and 60 behind zMnJohn: its a 4v5 with two losing lanes zMnJohn: maybe if one lane was at least even zMnJohn: tpo help zMnJohn: tier 2 zMnJohn: ok? zMnJohn: why are u talkign to me? zMnJohn: weird zMnJohn: report shaco for verbal abuse please zMnJohn: i havnt said one word to you karma zMnJohn: i dont talk that was my whole point zMnJohn: i have zero interest in a interaction with u zMnJohn: if ony lone lane zMnJohn: was even zMnJohn: you guys are gonna need baron zMnJohn: go get it zMnJohn: ekko zMnJohn: dont uhdnerstand why u are chasing when we getting pushed zMnJohn: i cant win this zMnJohn: what attitide zMnJohn: im trying my best zMnJohn: stop chasing and defend then zMnJohn: we didnt hve to lose bot zMnJohn: i just need a botrk zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: ill defend bot zMnJohn: alone zMnJohn: karma in enemy juingle zMnJohn: but its my attitude zMnJohn: finally zMnJohn: gg zMnJohn: 3 mid and noeon here

Game 3 zMnJohn: remember to report zMnJohn: wasted everyones time zMnJohn: now u gotta lose cs top zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: what is it that u do for me fiddle zMnJohn: if u got hooked i back them off with auto zMnJohn: when i get hooked zMnJohn: what is it that u do zMnJohn: i never palyed with a fiddle supp zMnJohn: theres no reason i should be dead in a 2v2 at 80 percent life even with hook zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: have it your way zMnJohn: i went in zMnJohn: front line left zMnJohn: dont haras me later zMnJohn: for not ifghting zMnJohn: fid took my kill as well zMnJohn: this game is really up to u fid zMnJohn: i was 17-2 last game 15-0 last last zMnJohn: i asked nicely u wont explain zMnJohn: im not gonna 3v1 zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: that was a 3v1 zMnJohn: im heere ready to dfend zMnJohn: your the ones not here zMnJohn: im ehre mid zMnJohn: ready to dfend zMnJohn: waiting for 2 other people zMnJohn: 4 enemies mid zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: teemo top zMnJohn: lee in base zMnJohn: still no one here zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: explin to me zMnJohn: i was here zMnJohn: cass was here zMnJohn: teemo was top zMnJohn: lee was in base zMnJohn: i have to 4v2 why? zMnJohn: no answer? zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: why did i even come zMnJohn: kayne killed 2 and still at full health zMnJohn: fid im ready whenever u are zMnJohn: all dead zMnJohn: lee top zMnJohn: what can i do zMnJohn: im here mid ready to defend zMnJohn: waiting on team zMnJohn: still waiting zMnJohn: 4 mid zMnJohn: waitfinf on 2 more zMnJohn: im going bot zMnJohn: to defend zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: i cant duel ahri zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: i cant duel ahri zMnJohn: i cant tell u people how to rotate zMnJohn: why did no one come help zMnJohn: no u werent zMnJohn: u came late zMnJohn: im ehre zMnJohn: waiting for a engage zMnJohn: top lane zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: im waiting top zMnJohn: for hlep zMnJohn: see teemo zMnJohn: thats what happend zMnJohn: im at base zMnJohn: fid is in jungl

36 Comments

Mindspeaker3 votes

In general you are a very negative and toxic person. NOTHING you said was justified.

You either went through all your chances or Riot decided you were toxic enough to just skipped to the perma ban

Either way I think it was deserved.

Also game stats don't matter only your actions do.

I know this is how it seems when It shows one side of the chat, and I realize that whatever they do does not excuse my actions but my comments need to be taken in context.

CONTEXT does not matter!!!

There is no justification ever to be verbally abusive , criticize or in any way shape or for say anything negative to your or opposing team mates.

So instead of getting into a back and forth insult fest, I point out their mistakes to show them its them not me.

That is also where your mistake is . No matter what ANYONE says to you. Its completely justified to get punished for responding to them

You are not supposed to respond to it either

This is how you are supposed to act

...... follow these guidelines this is what you are supposed to do.

ff you receive or see a verbally abusive comment

1 Don't respond ( this includes any type of report x comment . muting x or anything of that nature)

2 Mute them

3 Report on end game screen

This goes for if you see someone intentionally feeding , afk as well

Or is that way to hard for you to understand????

zMnJohn1 votes

Im serious, can you please point out where i was verbally abusive, or criticizing someone? I would appreciate it.

this is the only thing I could find

Game 2

zMnJohn: karma isnt here zMnJohn: ekko is 100 cs behind zMnJohn: at 15 zMnJohn: this game is actually unwinnable zMnJohn: lol gragas 0-6 and 60 behind zMnJohn: its a 4v5 with two losing lanes zMnJohn: maybe if one lane was at least even

This was in context of a conversation i wasnt just typing these things randomly. the team kept saying I will carry the game and i was explaining to them why I couldn't with factual evidence. I didn't say cant carry noobs, I didnt say i cant carry because you all suck.

there was no flaming or arguing here on either side it was a CONVERSATION.

so who could have reported me??? the 4-10 Karma jungle maybe?? the same person that stated in chat he was mad about a previous game so he was gonna fuck around this one?

I ended 15/0/8

team is ** karma jungle** 4/10/7 clearly trolling ekko 4/7/6 behind 350 cs gragas 2/9/10 behind 70 cs soraka 1/8/16

Mindspeaker1 votes

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Im serious, can you please point out where i was verbally abusive, or criticizing someone? I would appreciate it.

this is the only thing I could find

Game 2

zMnJohn: karma isnt here zMnJohn: ekko is 100 cs behind zMnJohn: at 15 zMnJohn: this game is actually unwinnable zMnJohn: lol gragas 0-6 and 60 behind zMnJohn: its a 4v5 with two losing lanes zMnJohn: maybe if one lane was at least even

This was in context of a conversation i wasnt just typing these things randomly. the team kept saying I will carry the game and i was explaining to them why I couldn't with factual evidence. I didn't say cant carry noobs, I didnt say i cant carry because you all suck.

there was no flaming or arguing here on either side it was a CONVERSATION.

so who could have reported me??? the 4-10 Karma jungle maybe?? the same person that stated in chat he was mad about a previous game so he was gonna fuck around this one?

I ended 15/0/8

team is ** karma jungle** 4/10/7 clearly trolling ekko 4/7/6 behind 350 cs gragas 2/9/10 behind 70 cs soraka 1/8/16

I think i was specific in my first response to you

**I picked just three lines if nothing else where you show you deserve it **

...there is lots more where these came from.

Game one zMnJohn: god forbid u guys build mr zMnJohn: u made a stupid decision zMnJohn: do u guys have any logic behind ur actions?

game two zMnJohn: this game is actually unwinnable zMnJohn: lol gragas 0-6 and 60 behind zMnJohn: its a 4v5 with two losing lanes

Game three zMnJohn: remember to report zMnJohn: wasted everyones time zMnJohn: now u gotta lose cs top

I also gave you guidelines on the PROPER way to act . If you really want to see what you did wrong ... look though the guidelines and then look at your chat log.

Do they match ...no they do not.

...... follow these guidelines this is what you are supposed to do.

ff you receive or see a verbally abusive comment

1 Don't respond ( this includes any type of report x comment . muting x or anything of that nature)

2 Mute them

3 Report on end game screen

This goes for if you see someone intentionally feeding , afk as well

Or is that way to hard for you to understand????

zMnJohn1 votes

{quoted}

I think i was specific in my first response to you

**I picked just three lines if nothing else where you show you deserve it **

...there is lots more where these came from.

Game one zMnJohn: god forbid u guys build mr zMnJohn: u made a stupid decision zMnJohn: do u guys have any logic behind ur actions?

game two zMnJohn: this game is actually unwinnable zMnJohn: lol gragas 0-6 and 60 behind zMnJohn: its a 4v5 with two losing lanes

Game three top

I also gave you guidelines on the PROPER way to act . If you really want to see what you did wrong ... look though the guidelines and then look at your chat log.

Do they match ...no they do not.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I reread your comment to make sure and there were no specific examples hence why I asked

"In general you are a very negative and toxic person. NOTHING you said was justified."

That was a vague statement and I just wanted to clarify

In game one "you made a stupid decision" the next part was " I chose not to follow". That was a direct response to someone asking me why I didn't follow him into a losing teamfight" I was answering a question

I already addressed game 2 earlier u must have missed it. The quotes were in a context of a CONVERSATION there was a troll jungle karma. They were flaming each other back and forth. (I stayed out of it) They kept saying I will carry game. I explained with facts why I could not. That was all I said that was casual conversation. everything else was gameplay related. I even say clearly in chat to the troll trying to bait me " I have zero interest in a interaction with you"

It's funny this game the Ekko was asking me for advice and I got a honor for being tilt proof. But a troll karma jungle's report has the power to get me banned

Game 3 "Remember to report" "wasted everyone's time". we had a afk in the beginning of game i didn't think he was coming back and thought it would be a remake. How can I be toxic to someone that's not even there???!!

Thank you for the guidelines i read them all when you first posted " don't respond to verbally abusive comments" I followed that Rule. I did not engage in a argument with anyone questions were asked I answered and that was it conversation done. There is no evidence in the chat of me going any further than that. Like I stated earlier I don't give my opinion on any situation or anyone. I don't use any kind of adjectives. I post facts I could see this count as being toxic if I was typing it for no reason. But they were all in response to questions directed at me.

Is the new rule all conversation should be about how to win the game??? If so they should rename the chat feature. Chat by definition is a casual conversation

Sarutobi2 votes

I can see why you were punished. You seem to be berating your teammates while they are down. Nothing in your chatlog is positive or even anything that can help win the game/let people try to get better. People know when they are playing badly and when you are constantly telling them what they are doing wrong 9 times out of 10, it will make them play worse because now they have someone criticizing them over every little thing. If it's true or not is irrelevant.

zMnJohn1 votes

I know this is how it seems when It shows one side of the chat, and I realize that whatever they do does not excuse my actions but my comments need to be taken in context. They are harassing me and verbally abusing me for their own mistakes and blaming me for the game going poorly. So instead of getting into a back and forth insult fest, I point out their mistakes to show them its them not me. I DO NOT verbally abuse, or engage in hate speech. Its not like they are just playing and minding their own business and I point out mistakes to be a ass.

Sarutobi1 votes

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I know this is how it seems when It shows one side of the chat, and I realize that whatever they do does not excuse my actions but my comments need to be taken in context. They are harassing me and verbally abusing me for their own mistakes and blaming me for the game going poorly. So instead of getting into a back and forth insult fest, I point out their mistakes to show them its them not me. I DO NOT verbally abuse, or engage in hate speech. Its not like they are just playing and minding their own business and I point out mistakes to be a ass.

Then the right thing to have done would have been to mute them and continue on playing the game. You were basically adding more fuel to the fire. You should be playing the game trying to win, not whining in the chat when ever something goes wrong. You chosen to keep up fighting in chat, and thus you were ban, maybe next time play the game instead of just chatting.

zMnJohn1 votes

I would really appreciate some specific examples of me whining.

and as for

"Nothing in your chatlog is positive or even anything that can help win the game/let people try to get better"

Game 3 zMnJohn: im here mid ready to defend zMnJohn: waiting on team zMnJohn: still waiting zMnJohn: 4 mid

Game 2 zMnJohn: i havnt said one word to you karma zMnJohn: i dont talk that was my whole point zMnJohn: i have zero interest in a interaction with u

Game 1 zMnJohn: heim better build more armor

are you sure your not a bit biased? or maybe you just read parts of the chat?

Sarutobi1 votes

{quoted}

I would really appreciate some specific examples of me whining.

and as for

"Nothing in your chatlog is positive or even anything that can help win the game/let people try to get better"

Game 3 zMnJohn: im here mid ready to defend zMnJohn: waiting on team zMnJohn: still waiting zMnJohn: 4 mid

Game 2 zMnJohn: i havnt said one word to you karma zMnJohn: i dont talk that was my whole point zMnJohn: i have zero interest in a interaction with u

Game 1 zMnJohn: heim better build more armor

are you sure your not a bit biased? or maybe you just read parts of the chat?

So i might have exaggerated a bit, but the fact that of those whole chatlogs, only this small amount is what you considered positive is sad.

zMnJohn1 votes

Like I said earlier I would appreciate examples of me whining, or verbal abuse

"Nothing in your chatlog is positive or even anything that can help win the game/let people try to get better"

I posted what I posted because of what you said above

"only this small amount is what you considered positive is sad."

And just because that's all I posted doesn't mean I think whatever I didn't post is negative. The rest was neither positive or negative just idle conversation. Is there some new rule that all chat has to be me encouraging people like a proud parent? Is pointless conversation allowed in chat anymore??

As I said before I would really appreciate examples of me whining like you said I was or examples from chat you deem worthy of a permaban.

I would also appreciate it if you could direct me to a link with these new rules. I could not find anything about random chatting being a permabannable offense

Neptunia xoxo1 votes

Honestly reading the first few parts of your copy pasted chat from in-game just makes me think you have been banned in the past and are one of those people if your teammate makes a mistake and dies you instantly /ff or say "gg ff" in chat. Sorry but you probably deserved it 100%

zMnJohn1 votes

Im not one of those people, thats why I posted the game stats, plenty of deliberate trolling and people telling me I suck over and over again. I never responded in kind. I just point out facts, things that actually happened, not my opinion on their skill level or a specific situation. Someone blaming me and harassing me, i point out their mistakes so they cant blame me.

Neptunia xoxo2 votes

I actually read a bit more of the chats and you indeed seem like one of those people. Sorry mate you are toxic.

zMnJohn1 votes

The whole reason I made this thread is to better understand the situation. Could you please give me some specific examples from the chat log that you think are deserving of a permanban.

So far everyone that has replied has not done that. Does the content not matter? Does riot just automatically ban you if you get reported a lot? (I don't mean in a single game, I've read that multiple report in a single game doesn't matter)

Also do you have a link to where Riot clearly defines toxic? I have not been able to find anything

zMnJohn1 votes

" just makes me think you have been banned in the past and are one of those people if your teammate makes a mistake and dies you instantly /ff or say "gg ff" in chat."

"You indeed seem like one of those people"

Those are vague statements and I whole heartedly disagree. I am willing to engage in a logical debate over it.

Frankbang1 votes

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Honestly reading the first few parts of your copy pasted chat from in-game just makes me think you have been banned in the past and are one of those people if your teammate makes a mistake and dies you instantly /ff or say "gg ff" in chat. Sorry but you probably deserved it 100%

Lol, "probably deserved it 100%". Doesn't that just mean there's only an 80% chance (or whatever percent) that he deserved it?

I mean, I agree with you, I think he deserved it. Just thought it was funny

Better Jungler1 votes

You just come off a 14 day ban? (last 3 months or so?)

The logs themselves warrant a punishment (you are very toxic.), but not a permaban. With that said, if you had a 14 day ban that is your LAST WARNING, and ANY toxicity what-so-ever shows an inability to reform, and gets a permaban.

zMnJohn1 votes

yes i did but the chat logs they showed me were no worse than the logs i posted here. I have NEVER cursed or even used a adjective on another player. I do not give my opinions on any player or any situation. Everything I state is fact.

I disagree with " you are very toxic" if you think what i say is VERY TOXIC, what would you use to describe someone dying blaming it on me, proceed to troll and feed and STATE clearly in chat they are gonna troll and calling my mother a whore non stop 30 mins?

Better Jungler3 votes

You dont understand how the system works.

10 game chat restriction 25 game chat restriction 14 day ban (FINAL WARNING) Permanent ban.

You can skip tiers for EXTREME toxicity.

Your 14 day ban was the very last warning for your account, and you came back and was toxic to your team again. Maybe the logs arent that bad here, but the point of the punishment is to make you reform. If you cant reform after a 14 day ban, you wont reform ever, so riot bans your account. It is irreversible. Your only option is to make a new account, and try to not act like this, or stop playing league of legends.

You do not get to be toxic to your team, regardless of what they say to you. If they are being toxic, mute them immediately, and report them after the game. YOU CONTROL WHAT YOU TYPE. Just mute, and report.

zMnJohn1 votes

I've read what li have posted before and I understand how the system works. What I am saying is that I was not toxic.

You called me "VERY TOXIC" that is a very strong statement could you please provide me examples of that from my chat log. I am trying very hard to better understand the situation. It is the whole reason I made this thread

Also you never answered my question in your post. Which was

"if you think what i say is VERY TOXIC, what term would you use to describe someone dying blaming it on me, proceed to troll and feed and STATE clearly in chat they are gonna troll and calling my mother a whore non stop 30 mins?"

sanshaoye1 votes

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Mindspeaker1 votes

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the sanctimonious poster replying to you is BSing you. sure there are other options particularly in the new season. make 50 accounts, troll games, incite reactions and report players. that's the new paradigm for success in league of legends. learn it

The toxic negative player don't listen to a forum troll and proven toxic player.

They are so full of salt that they could be a major distributor of the product to sever major continents.

They do no under stand this is just a video game and think its completely normal t and justified to get stressed out and verbally abusive especially when someone is doing something legitimately wrong.

50 accounts, troll games, incite reactions and report players.

Just this sentence alone proves you are a uncivilized toxic Negative player If you need to make 50 accounts that should tell you everything right there

Yes there is a problem with afk and feeders but if you react t o it and add to its negativity and stress out about the outcome of a "video game" e or the loss of "points" even if it was do to an intentionally disruptive player ( afk feeder etc)

You really need to learn to separate video game form real life because you obviously have other maturity , emotional and behavioral issues

which is fine no one is perfect but you need to learn self control and not to act out and take it out on others. when you are a GUEST in a privatly owned setting like this.

If you are going to play solo even in ranked just reflex don't worry about what other are doing if you don't like it and just pay your own game .You are also to blame because instead of avoid solo que and just playing pre-mades you continuous keep joining it .

FYI For the record i rather be sanctimonious than a completely reactive. uncivilized toxic negative player who needs to make "50" accounts

I lost track of how many years i played this game ...but i can tell you this

** I have only ever need one play account **

and my forum account so players like you cant recognize me in game .

Its pretty bad when a community is so toxic you need a seperate account just to talk on the forums.

sanshaoye1 votes

thanks for taking time to write a lengthy reply which i won't even bother to read. mission accomplished. sanctimonious poster trolled. thank you!

Mindspeaker1 votes

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thanks for taking time to write a lengthy reply which i won't even bother to read. mission accomplished. sanctimonious poster trolled. thank you!

Thank you :) its always great when a toxic person uses that as a lame come back because they have no other response

mission accomplished I get the victory screen :)

sanshaoye1 votes

right. the victory screen you keep seeing after taking 50gm of oxycontin. congratulations!

Mindspeaker2 votes

{quoted}

right. the victory screen you keep seeing after taking 50gm of oxycontin. congratulations!

-5/10 troll bait -10/10 come back

Result : fail troll fail's..... again.

General Esdeath 1 votes

LOL your message was erased :^)

nerak231 votes

zMnJohn (NA) - 15 minutes ago The whole reason I made this thread is to better understand the situation. Could you please give me some specific examples from the chat log that you think are deserving of a permanban.

Your chat logs are negative period. If you have been punished before you need to try to stay positive or say little to nothing.

I realize you want to believe your not saying anything negative yet You are. Even your own example seems bossy and a bit like you are pouting. "Some times less is more."

zMnJohn1 votes

{quoted}

Your chat logs are negative period. If you have been punished before you need to try to stay positive or say little to nothing.

I realize you want to believe your not saying anything negative yet You are. Even your own example seems bossy and a bit like you are pouting. "Some times less is more."

"Your chat logs are negative period"

That is a very strong statement, I will ask the same thing I have asked everyone here. Could you PLEASE provide some specific examples.
There have been numerous people that here that have made such statements and I am still waiting for their response to me asking for evidence

I ask because I disagree with what you say but am open minded. You made such a strong statement so it should not be hard to back up that statement with factual evidence

The last person that said something

"Nothing in your chatlog is positive or even anything that can help win the game/let people try to get better"

Admitted he was exaggerating and would not provide facts or specific examples.

General Esdeath 1 votes

I like how you start this whole thread by shifting blame.

zMnJohn1 votes

The whole point in this thread is because I feel blameless and the permaban undeserved. Feel free to change my mind. With facts and specific examples if you don't mind.

General Esdeath 1 votes
  1. Your actions are what's judged, it doesn't matter what your team does.
  2. Your chat logs are very toxic, full of harassment and blame.
zMnJohn1 votes

{quoted}

  1. Your actions are what's judged, it doesn't matter what your team does.
  2. Your chat logs are very toxic, full of harassment and blame.
  1. I realize that im not blaming my team for my ban
  2. could you please provide specific examples

"You chat logs are very toxic"

such a strong statement should easily be backed up by hard undeniable evidence.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Game 1 zMnJohn: mute all zMnJohn: nice stun zMnJohn: i see everything zMnJohn: i have pings on silent zMnJohn: nothing u can tell me i dont already know zMnJohn: gj on leashing drag for them zMnJohn: gj on giving fizz a triple kill

These 2 lines are just you harassing and badgering your team for mistakes

zMnJohn: u guys dont want to egnage? fine with me ill split push zMnJohn: u took my cannon zMnJohn: thanks to YOUR dragon call zMnJohn: gj zMnJohn: god forbid u guys build mr zMnJohn: heim better build more armor zMnJohn: u made a stupid decision zMnJohn: i chose not to get involved zMnJohn: u took my cannon minion sona zMnJohn: u last hit my cannon minion zMnJohn: u left me to 2v1 lane so u could go feed fizz at drag zMnJohn: nah im doing fine zMnJohn: gj zMnJohn: nice leash zMnJohn: again zMnJohn: i am playing zMnJohn: im just not following your poor decisions

Ironic considering your later words are you bashing the team for not following your decisions

zMnJohn: diana in jung zMnJohn: instead of mid zMnJohn: is that trolling? zMnJohn: see zMnJohn: why would i follow u zMnJohn: we lost mid and u in jungle zMnJohn: i use ulti u all run away zMnJohn: dont harass me again zMnJohn: so diana u gonna report zMnJohn: me for not following ur orders zMnJohn: but u farming jungle while we lose turret and inhib zMnJohn: but lets all follow u zMnJohn: because u make great decisions zMnJohn: i dont understand zMnJohn: u all dont know how to use minimap? zMnJohn: u saw our base zMnJohn: and u decide to all go die top lane zMnJohn: do u guys have any logic behind ur actions? zMnJohn: not me zMnJohn: im fine zMnJohn: im where im suppose to be

Game 2 zMnJohn: were the 3 adc bans really necessary? zMnJohn: my pings are on silent zMnJohn: ping all u want zMnJohn: lol zMnJohn: i wasnt but i only have 4 adcs zMnJohn: and u banned 3 of them zMnJohn: i said everything i wanted to say in lobby zMnJohn: karma isnt here zMnJohn: ekko is 100 cs behind zMnJohn: at 15 zMnJohn: this game is actually unwinnable zMnJohn: lol gragas 0-6 and 60 behind zMnJohn: its a 4v5 with two losing lanes zMnJohn: maybe if one lane was at least even zMnJohn: tpo help zMnJohn: tier 2 zMnJohn: ok? zMnJohn: why are u talkign to me? zMnJohn: weird zMnJohn: report shaco for verbal abuse please

Asking for reports, harassment

zMnJohn: i havnt said one word to you karma zMnJohn: i dont talk that was my whole point zMnJohn: i have zero interest in a interaction with u zMnJohn: if ony lone lane zMnJohn: was even zMnJohn: you guys are gonna need baron zMnJohn: go get it zMnJohn: ekko zMnJohn: dont uhdnerstand why u are chasing when we getting pushed zMnJohn: i cant win this zMnJohn: what attitide zMnJohn: im trying my best zMnJohn: stop chasing and defend then zMnJohn: we didnt hve to lose bot zMnJohn: i just need a botrk zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: ill defend bot zMnJohn: alone zMnJohn: karma in enemy juingle zMnJohn: but its my attitude zMnJohn: finally zMnJohn: gg zMnJohn: 3 mid and noeon here

Badgering and harassing team mates on their choices

Game 3 zMnJohn: remember to report

Your first line is asking for reports, harassment

zMnJohn: wasted everyones time zMnJohn: now u gotta lose cs top zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: what is it that u do for me fiddle zMnJohn: if u got hooked i back them off with auto zMnJohn: when i get hooked zMnJohn: what is it that u do zMnJohn: i never palyed with a fiddle supp zMnJohn: theres no reason i should be dead in a 2v2 at 80 percent life even with hook zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: have it your way zMnJohn: i went in zMnJohn: front line left zMnJohn: dont haras me later zMnJohn: for not ifghting zMnJohn: fid took my kill as well zMnJohn: this game is really up to u fid zMnJohn: i was 17-2 last game 15-0 last last zMnJohn: i asked nicely u wont explain zMnJohn: im not gonna 3v1 zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: that was a 3v1 zMnJohn: im heere ready to dfend zMnJohn: your the ones not here zMnJohn: im ehre mid zMnJohn: ready to dfend zMnJohn: waiting for 2 other people zMnJohn: 4 enemies mid zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: teemo top zMnJohn: lee in base zMnJohn: still no one here zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: explin to me zMnJohn: i was here zMnJohn: cass was here zMnJohn: teemo was top zMnJohn: lee was in base zMnJohn: i have to 4v2 why? zMnJohn: no answer? zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: why did i even come zMnJohn: kayne killed 2 and still at full health zMnJohn: fid im ready whenever u are zMnJohn: all dead zMnJohn: lee top zMnJohn: what can i do zMnJohn: im here mid ready to defend zMnJohn: waiting on team zMnJohn: still waiting zMnJohn: 4 mid zMnJohn: waitfinf on 2 more zMnJohn: im going bot zMnJohn: to defend zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: i cant duel ahri zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: i cant duel ahri zMnJohn: i cant tell u people how to rotate zMnJohn: why did no one come help zMnJohn: no u werent zMnJohn: u came late zMnJohn: im ehre zMnJohn: waiting for a engage zMnJohn: top lane zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: im waiting top zMnJohn: for hlep zMnJohn: see teemo zMnJohn: thats what happend zMnJohn: im at base zMnJohn: fid is in jungl

All game there's harassing and badgering over your teams choices

nerak231 votes

I ask because I disagree with what you say but am open minded. You made such a strong statement so it should not be hard to back up that statement with factual evidence

For the second time I will tell you Even Your own Example was negative.

You want advice, hear is mine.: Stop Shot calling, play with your team (even if you disagree), don't tell them 'how stupid' their decisions are!

Finally, I am Not backing off my statement. I would have definitively reported you in each game. I believe you are auguring for the sake of it, I won't do that. If I feel that no matter what I say, Good, Bad, or Rude will change your mind I STOP TYPING about it...Try doing the same.

Hope you much luck with this, but done talking to you about it.

zMnJohn1 votes

{quoted}

For the second time I will tell you Even Your own Example was negative.

You want advice, hear is mine.: Stop Shot calling, play with your team (even if you disagree), don't tell them 'how stupid' their decisions are!

Finally, I am Not backing off my statement. I would have definitively reported you in each game. I believe you are auguring for the sake of it, I won't do that. If I feel that no matter what I say, Good, Bad, or Rude will change your mind I STOP TYPING about it...Try doing the same.

Hope you much luck with this, but done talking to you about it.

"I believe you are auguring for the sake of it"

I am not, all I asked for is evidence. A specific example from my chat log, You dont want to do it thats fine.

but like I said before "Your chat logs are negative period" a statement like that should easily be able to be backed up by hard damning evidence

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