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Perma banned for what???!

zMnJohn·10/26/2017, 7:06:35 AM·1 votes·850 views

What am I banned for?

Verbal Abuse, Hate Speech, Negative attitude, Inappropriate Name, Cheating

The only one that I think could be a possibility is negative attitude

"game 1 : gj on giving fizz a triple kill, made a stupid decision, i chose not to get involved"

thats it, and that was me responding to my team harassing me. I never curse, I never even use a adjective of any kind on another person.

In game 2 I clearly state " I don't talk that was my whole point" " I have zero interest in a interaction with u"

In all 3 games Ive had players say they were going to report me for not doing what they wanted. Is me not following the orders of every teammate bannable now?

I know people will say that Im a troll or I don't cooperate with team, please see the below for game stats from the chat logged games, also in my last 50 games I average 2 deaths per a game and have ONLY TWO games with over 5 deaths. EVERYTHING POSTED CAN BE VERIFIED in my match history

**GAME 1 **
sona 0/4/1
tahm 5/3/0
TWITCH (me) 1/0/1
diana 0/7/1
heim 0/7/0 half enemy cs

GAME 2 ASHE(me) 15/0/8 karma jungle 4/10/7 clearly trolling ekko 4/7/6 behind 350 cs gragas 2/9/10 behind 70 cs soraka 1/8/16

GAME 3 KOG(ME) 3/4/8 lee 3/6/7 fiddle(support) 7/4/4 cass 1/8/6 teemo 7/8/10

The below info is not to toot my own horn but will probably be relevant if there are any responses to this post, everything below is also easily verifiable

twitch: 28/4/2, 23/1/11 ashe: 15/0/8, 7/2/9
soraka: 2/0/10, 0/2/20, 3/0/17
vayne: 24/2/8
Katarina: 22/2/10
Thresh: 4/1/13
Lee Sin: 4/1/15
Renekton: 15/5/4

CHAT LOGS

Game 1 zMnJohn: mute all zMnJohn: nice stun zMnJohn: i see everything zMnJohn: i have pings on silent zMnJohn: nothing u can tell me i dont already know zMnJohn: gj on leashing drag for them zMnJohn: gj on giving fizz a triple kill zMnJohn: u guys dont want to egnage? fine with me ill split push zMnJohn: u took my cannon zMnJohn: thanks to YOUR dragon call zMnJohn: gj zMnJohn: god forbid u guys build mr zMnJohn: heim better build more armor zMnJohn: u made a stupid decision zMnJohn: i chose not to get involved zMnJohn: u took my cannon minion sona zMnJohn: u last hit my cannon minion zMnJohn: u left me to 2v1 lane so u could go feed fizz at drag zMnJohn: nah im doing fine zMnJohn: gj zMnJohn: nice leash zMnJohn: again zMnJohn: i am playing zMnJohn: im just not following your poor decisions zMnJohn: diana in jung zMnJohn: instead of mid zMnJohn: is that trolling? zMnJohn: see zMnJohn: why would i follow u zMnJohn: we lost mid and u in jungle zMnJohn: i use ulti u all run away zMnJohn: dont harass me again zMnJohn: so diana u gonna report zMnJohn: me for not following ur orders zMnJohn: but u farming jungle while we lose turret and inhib zMnJohn: but lets all follow u zMnJohn: because u make great decisions zMnJohn: i dont understand zMnJohn: u all dont know how to use minimap? zMnJohn: u saw our base zMnJohn: and u decide to all go die top lane zMnJohn: do u guys have any logic behind ur actions? zMnJohn: not me zMnJohn: im fine zMnJohn: im where im suppose to be

Game 2 zMnJohn: were the 3 adc bans really necessary? zMnJohn: my pings are on silent zMnJohn: ping all u want zMnJohn: lol zMnJohn: i wasnt but i only have 4 adcs zMnJohn: and u banned 3 of them zMnJohn: i said everything i wanted to say in lobby zMnJohn: karma isnt here zMnJohn: ekko is 100 cs behind zMnJohn: at 15 zMnJohn: this game is actually unwinnable zMnJohn: lol gragas 0-6 and 60 behind zMnJohn: its a 4v5 with two losing lanes zMnJohn: maybe if one lane was at least even zMnJohn: tpo help zMnJohn: tier 2 zMnJohn: ok? zMnJohn: why are u talkign to me? zMnJohn: weird zMnJohn: report shaco for verbal abuse please zMnJohn: i havnt said one word to you karma zMnJohn: i dont talk that was my whole point zMnJohn: i have zero interest in a interaction with u zMnJohn: if ony lone lane zMnJohn: was even zMnJohn: you guys are gonna need baron zMnJohn: go get it zMnJohn: ekko zMnJohn: dont uhdnerstand why u are chasing when we getting pushed zMnJohn: i cant win this zMnJohn: what attitide zMnJohn: im trying my best zMnJohn: stop chasing and defend then zMnJohn: we didnt hve to lose bot zMnJohn: i just need a botrk zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: chasing zMnJohn: ill defend bot zMnJohn: alone zMnJohn: karma in enemy juingle zMnJohn: but its my attitude zMnJohn: finally zMnJohn: gg zMnJohn: 3 mid and noeon here

Game 3 zMnJohn: remember to report zMnJohn: wasted everyones time zMnJohn: now u gotta lose cs top zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: what is it that u do for me fiddle zMnJohn: if u got hooked i back them off with auto zMnJohn: when i get hooked zMnJohn: what is it that u do zMnJohn: i never palyed with a fiddle supp zMnJohn: theres no reason i should be dead in a 2v2 at 80 percent life even with hook zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: have it your way zMnJohn: i went in zMnJohn: front line left zMnJohn: dont haras me later zMnJohn: for not ifghting zMnJohn: fid took my kill as well zMnJohn: this game is really up to u fid zMnJohn: i was 17-2 last game 15-0 last last zMnJohn: i asked nicely u wont explain zMnJohn: im not gonna 3v1 zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: that was a 3v1 zMnJohn: im heere ready to dfend zMnJohn: your the ones not here zMnJohn: im ehre mid zMnJohn: ready to dfend zMnJohn: waiting for 2 other people zMnJohn: 4 enemies mid zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: teemo top zMnJohn: lee in base zMnJohn: still no one here zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: explin to me zMnJohn: i was here zMnJohn: cass was here zMnJohn: teemo was top zMnJohn: lee was in base zMnJohn: i have to 4v2 why? zMnJohn: no answer? zMnJohn: ok zMnJohn: why did i even come zMnJohn: kayne killed 2 and still at full health zMnJohn: fid im ready whenever u are zMnJohn: all dead zMnJohn: lee top zMnJohn: what can i do zMnJohn: im here mid ready to defend zMnJohn: waiting on team zMnJohn: still waiting zMnJohn: 4 mid zMnJohn: waitfinf on 2 more zMnJohn: im going bot zMnJohn: to defend zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: i cant duel ahri zMnJohn: ? zMnJohn: i cant duel ahri zMnJohn: i cant tell u people how to rotate zMnJohn: why did no one come help zMnJohn: no u werent zMnJohn: u came late zMnJohn: im ehre zMnJohn: waiting for a engage zMnJohn: top lane zMnJohn: ill wait zMnJohn: im waiting top zMnJohn: for hlep zMnJohn: see teemo zMnJohn: thats what happend zMnJohn: im at base zMnJohn: fid is in jungl

36 Comments

Mindspeaker10/26/2017, 11:28:39 AM3 votes

In general you are a very negative and toxic person. NOTHING you said was justified.

You either went through all your chances or Riot decided you were toxic enough to just skipped to the perma ban

Either way I think it was deserved.

Also game stats don't matter only your actions do.

I know this is how it seems when It shows one side of the chat, and I realize that whatever they do does not excuse my actions but my comments need to be taken in context.

CONTEXT does not matter!!!

There is no justification ever to be verbally abusive , criticize or in any way shape or for say anything negative to your or opposing team mates.

So instead of getting into a back and forth insult fest, I point out their mistakes to show them its them not me.

That is also where your mistake is . No matter what ANYONE says to you. Its completely justified to get punished for responding to them

You are not supposed to respond to it either

This is how you are supposed to act

...... follow these guidelines this is what you are supposed to do.

ff you receive or see a verbally abusive comment

1 Don't respond ( this includes any type of report x comment . muting x or anything of that nature)

2 Mute them

3 Report on end game screen

This goes for if you see someone intentionally feeding , afk as well

Or is that way to hard for you to understand????

Sarutobi10/26/2017, 9:15:14 AM2 votes

I can see why you were punished. You seem to be berating your teammates while they are down. Nothing in your chatlog is positive or even anything that can help win the game/let people try to get better. People know when they are playing badly and when you are constantly telling them what they are doing wrong 9 times out of 10, it will make them play worse because now they have someone criticizing them over every little thing. If it's true or not is irrelevant.

Better Jungler10/26/2017, 7:21:58 AM1 votes

You just come off a 14 day ban? (last 3 months or so?)

The logs themselves warrant a punishment (you are very toxic.), but not a permaban. With that said, if you had a 14 day ban that is your LAST WARNING, and ANY toxicity what-so-ever shows an inability to reform, and gets a permaban.

Neptunia xoxo10/26/2017, 7:11:15 AM1 votes

Honestly reading the first few parts of your copy pasted chat from in-game just makes me think you have been banned in the past and are one of those people if your teammate makes a mistake and dies you instantly /ff or say "gg ff" in chat. Sorry but you probably deserved it 100%

nerak2310/26/2017, 8:12:57 PM1 votes

zMnJohn (NA) - 15 minutes ago The whole reason I made this thread is to better understand the situation. Could you please give me some specific examples from the chat log that you think are deserving of a permanban.

Your chat logs are negative period. If you have been punished before you need to try to stay positive or say little to nothing.

I realize you want to believe your not saying anything negative yet You are. Even your own example seems bossy and a bit like you are pouting. "Some times less is more."

General Esdeath 10/27/2017, 12:48:01 AM1 votes

I like how you start this whole thread by shifting blame.

nerak2310/27/2017, 9:44:20 AM1 votes

I ask because I disagree with what you say but am open minded. You made such a strong statement so it should not be hard to back up that statement with factual evidence

For the second time I will tell you Even Your own Example was negative.

You want advice, hear is mine.: Stop Shot calling, play with your team (even if you disagree), don't tell them 'how stupid' their decisions are!

Finally, I am Not backing off my statement. I would have definitively reported you in each game. I believe you are auguring for the sake of it, I won't do that. If I feel that no matter what I say, Good, Bad, or Rude will change your mind I STOP TYPING about it...Try doing the same.

Hope you much luck with this, but done talking to you about it.