I'd really like it if riot would fix their match up system, because it's trash.

johnsaucier··2 votes·387 views

Just played an ARAM game with a lower level friend, he's sub 20. I get into the game and LoLWiz shows me we're playing against a platinum 5. The other remaining players on the team were also sub 20, with a level 13 as low. Our matchup is against a platinum 5, a silver 1, silver 3, an bronze 2, and a level 13. So i'm like, "nice matchup."

The platinum 5 is nidalee and she is absolutely destroying all the low levels on my team and laughing, and I'm like "yeah this is really fair, the match with a platinum." I see the level 13 tristana is destroying people as well. He says, "two platinums, trist is one as well." The whole time these guys are laughing and having fun while my teammates are just getting pissed off how badly the game matched us.

Two problems our team should never have even played against a platinum, let alone an entire team of ranked players, and of course the fact that two jerk-offs can load up the game, and one can play on a smurf so they can be matched against low levels so they can have fun destroying players just learning the game.

I literally could not do anything because my team mates were always dead. At the end the both of them had between them almost 60 kills.

Why the hell doesn't Riot address this nonsense? Seriously, they were laughing and having a jolly old time, saying, "It's ARAM shut the F up." Except, so what? the game was a blast for those two trashy asses, but for everyone else it was miserable. The game is supposed to be fun for everyone, and since when is it ok to get such a lopsided game that the only people having fun are the two platinums who like beating lower level players?

It's called bullying and I'm sure it's as familiar to them IRL as it is in the game based on their attitudes.

They need to fix their bs system for matchups so that someone that is ranked that high should not be able to take advantage of new players as easily as these two jerks were.

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archerno11 votes

To make matchmaking in ARAM based on solo/queue rankings? How stupid would that be? That guy isnt platinum in ARAM. ARAM doesnt have rankings. ARAM is just troll mode for laughs.

Drugoth1 votes

ARAM is the perfect mode to earn hextech chests on though.

johnsaucier1 votes

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To make matchmaking in ARAM based on solo/queue rankings? How stupid would that be? That guy isnt platinum in ARAM. ARAM doesnt have rankings. ARAM is just troll mode for laughs.

While I agree with you that it doesn't have rankings, it's disingenuous to say that rank does not matter. While it may not have a part to play in an ARAM it absolutely affects the game you are playing. I play aram because its supposed to be fun, its not fun when two highly skilled players are placed in a match with new players and are able to completely destroy those players.

Thus rank does have some part to play, because while I agree that a person being highly skilled in a normal game doesn't always translate to it happening in an aram, it does give them an advantage in that game especially when matched up against sub 20 players, one of them just barely able to even play aram.

To act is if it doesn't matter is also disingenuous. It matters because the game mode exists, players play it, you may not think it is there for any reason then to let players screw around, but some people enjoy it, I would say overall its more fun than playing normal games. What is not fun is the fact that players with obviously more skills are allowed to take fun away from other players, instead of being matched up with players at their level.

It should not matter that the game mode isn't meant to be ranked, advantage is still advantage and there needs to be someway to make it more even, especially in aram where the random act of getting characters can already disadvantage a team, on top of that allowing plats and diamonds (yes got a few of those this week playing with noobs as well) to be mixed in with such lower level players does not make for fairness. I'm not complaining about the diamonds we played against because they were not asshats like these two were.

It's not fun, anymore than watching an adult beat a toddler with a bat, repeatedly laughing would be.

archerno11 votes

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While I agree with you that it doesn't have rankings, it's disingenuous to say that rank does not matter. While it may not have a part to play in an ARAM it absolutely affects the game you are playing. I play aram because its supposed to be fun, its not fun when two highly skilled players are placed in a match with new players and are able to completely destroy those players.

Thus rank does have some part to play, because while I agree that a person being highly skilled in a normal game doesn't always translate to it happening in an aram, it does give them an advantage in that game especially when matched up against sub 20 players, one of them just barely able to even play aram.

To act is if it doesn't matter is also disingenuous. It matters because the game mode exists, players play it, you may not think it is there for any reason then to let players screw around, but some people enjoy it, I would say overall its more fun than playing normal games. What is not fun is the fact that players with obviously more skills are allowed to take fun away from other players, instead of being matched up with players at their level.

It should not matter that the game mode isn't meant to be ranked, advantage is still advantage and there needs to be someway to make it more even, especially in aram where the random act of getting characters can already disadvantage a team, on top of that allowing plats and diamonds (yes got a few of those this week playing with noobs as well) to be mixed in with such lower level players does not make for fairness. I'm not complaining about the diamonds we played against because they were not asshats like these two were.

It's not fun, anymore than watching an adult beat a toddler with a bat, repeatedly laughing would be.

Well let me try to paint you picture. Only 4 % of population are Diamond and above. And only 10% are plat and above. Most people who grinded that many games to reach those ranks are not playing aram (or play it very rarely). How long do you think would Diamond or Platinum player would have to wait in queue to get matched with/against people of his own ranked MMR?

Sorry but ARAM isnt that serious mode to require such matchmaking tweaks. If your friends cant handle defeat they can always play against bots. ARAM is just a short mode for messy fights.

Most important skills that higher ranked players have over lower are: CS, knowledge where jungler is, roaming, gaining lane advantage, baiting for ganks, ganking, counterganking, counterjungling, vision control, baron control, drake control, proper splitpush and sieging and champion mechanics. Only champion mechanics apply in ARAM. And higher ranked players (plat and above) only play handful of champions while owning most to be able to trade for priority picks. So they have low chance to get one of their main champions that got them to that rank and even if they do only small portion of their skill which got that to that rank can they use in ARAM. So no, advantage is not that high.

johnsaucier1 votes

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Well let me try to paint you picture. Only 4 % of population are Diamond and above. And only 10% are plat and above. Most people who grinded that many games to reach those ranks are not playing aram (or play it very rarely). How long do you think would Diamond or Platinum player would have to wait in queue to get matched with/against people of his own ranked MMR?

Sorry but ARAM isnt that serious mode to require such matchmaking tweaks. If your friends cant handle defeat they can always play against bots. ARAM is just a short mode for messy fights.

Most important skills that higher ranked players have over lower are: CS, knowledge where jungler is, roaming, gaining lane advantage, baiting for ganks, ganking, counterganking, counterjungling, vision control, baron control, drake control, proper splitpush and sieging and champion mechanics. Only champion mechanics apply in ARAM. And higher ranked players (plat and above) only play handful of champions while owning most to be able to trade for priority picks. So they have low chance to get one of their main champions that got them to that rank and even if they do only small portion of their skill which got that to that rank can they use in ARAM. So no, advantage is not that high.

Even if I believed that, there is no reason to matchup plats against sub 20 players when an easy fix would be to make sure all players are at least 30. It's not an unreasonable request, and there will be plenty of players available to play to do it. Also this idea that someone as highly ranked would suck in aram is also a load of crap.

archerno11 votes

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Even if I believed that, there is no reason to matchup plats against sub 20 players when an easy fix would be to make sure all players are at least 30. It's not an unreasonable request, and there will be plenty of players available to play to do it. Also this idea that someone as highly ranked would suck in aram is also a load of crap.

You do realize YOU are reason they match your low lvl friends against plats? Your friends would be matched against other people leveling if they didnt premade with you. YOU are reason their MMR went high. They are queueing with guy lvl 30. And yes. Someone who is plat can suck big time in ARAM. I am living proof of that.

http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUN1/200976052?map=12

I always feed my ass off there

AJStarhiker1 votes

Actually, I'm pretty sure ARAM has a hidden mmr. However, like Normals, it's separate from any other game mode. Also, like normals, there are no level/rank restrictions on who you can premade with, so you can end up with some weird, extreme matchups.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

ARAM has its own MMR. Mmr decays when you don't play. So yes, while it sucks it is completely possible to go against a high elo player in an ARAM match because they may not play often.

They can't make a global MMR because that would make things worse. Why is simple. People would throw games to bomb their mmr in normal games then climb in rank. For those who wouldn't try this, it would also kill the queue times.

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