Looking to be smited - 14 day ban for this?

CIg PobeIter·12/3/2017, 2:11:55 AM·4 votes·574 views

I get it, I wasn't the best teammate. But I can't understand how this was remotely bad enough to warrant a ban. I've personally reported WAY worse people with no consequence (assuming that instant feedback is actually working anyway).

These were the chat logs presented to me. Unedited because I legitimately feel I have nothing to hide.

In both games people were flaming the shit out of me. Sure, I didn't smile and wave as they took turns verbally beating me into the ground, but I do not feel that I was so excessively toxic that I should be banned (especially considering that the other players didn't even get the slightest punishment). Seems extremely disproportionate to me and I'm open to getting smited.

Game 1 CIg PobeIter: i am voli CIg PobeIter: we can invade CIg PobeIter: go other way CIg PobeIter: wait CIg PobeIter: go as 5 CIg PobeIter: worth CIg PobeIter: thats fine CIg PobeIter: its fine CIg PobeIter: we got cait flash CIg PobeIter: and cait cant base CIg PobeIter: for lane CIg PobeIter: cait no tim eto base for lane CIg PobeIter: no nimbus? CIg PobeIter: unfortunate CIg PobeIter: gank top when u come back wukong CIg PobeIter: i have pink CIg PobeIter: k then just go bot CIg PobeIter: he will have cleared pink by then CIg PobeIter: i cant really keep him off it cuz of his kiting CIg PobeIter: kong if u can, go for bot CIg PobeIter: get the tower CIg PobeIter: so bot can rotate up CIg PobeIter: why are u solo farming bot leona CIg PobeIter: its a cloud drake CIg PobeIter: yea CIg PobeIter: why do u have such priority CIg PobeIter: on cloud CIg PobeIter: thats because i've been split pushing CIg PobeIter: i solokilled my lane counter CIg PobeIter: twice CIg PobeIter: and got 2 towers CIg PobeIter: solo CIg PobeIter: yep CIg PobeIter: not my problem CIg PobeIter: we were equally grouped as them CIg PobeIter: and? CIg PobeIter: grouping had nothing to do with anything CIg PobeIter: we were grouped already CIg PobeIter: 4 were mid to start and i came mid before gnar did CIg PobeIter: we CIg PobeIter: were CIg PobeIter: grouped CIg PobeIter: so dont push out side lanes? CIg PobeIter: got it CIg PobeIter: refusing to push out side lanes now CIg PobeIter: ? CIg PobeIter: its my first death kid CIg PobeIter: and only because i listend to this mf CIg PobeIter: and "grouped" CIg PobeIter: if u cant see that their teamfight comp is like 3x as good as ours CIg PobeIter: u shouldnt be playing this game CIg PobeIter: ornn CIg PobeIter: fed fizz CIg PobeIter: caitjanna CIg PobeIter: you guys are seeing this leona right CIg PobeIter: it's not just me that's hallucinating? CIg PobeIter: really now CIg PobeIter: 13/3 mf is weaker than leo CIg PobeIter: ok CIg PobeIter: u guys have no honor lmfao CIg PobeIter: u clearly saw an example of griefing and refuse to acknowledge it...for what CIg PobeIter: stall CIg PobeIter: im taking CIg PobeIter: just stall CIg PobeIter: its going down CIg PobeIter: for what CIg PobeIter: im taking fking inhib CIg PobeIter: i told u to just stall CIg PobeIter: u hard engaged CIg PobeIter: then blame me for griefing? CIg PobeIter: i got 2 towers including inhib tower CIg PobeIter: u suicided by engaging CIg PobeIter: yea CIg PobeIter: because u suicided in CIg PobeIter: and they only played up because they knew iw asnt there CIg PobeIter: ever consider that they wouldnt have let u engage that easily CIg PobeIter: if i was there? CIg PobeIter: they're not idiots CIg PobeIter: they saw i wasnt there, they played up CIg PobeIter: u saw i wasnt there CIg PobeIter: u also played up CIg PobeIter: u got baited and outsmarted CIg PobeIter: xerath CIg PobeIter: u fed fizz CIg PobeIter: leona literally split pushed solo CIg PobeIter: as support CIg PobeIter: but ofc CIg PobeIter: its my fault CIg PobeIter: support leona split push CIg PobeIter: ok CIg PobeIter: xerath feeds fizz CIg PobeIter: ok CIg PobeIter: yea CIg PobeIter: no he wasnt lmfao CIg PobeIter: if i didnt throw him CIg PobeIter: he would hav elived CIg PobeIter: sure CIg PobeIter: i will CIg PobeIter: right now Game 2 CIg PobeIter: wukong 10% hp CIg PobeIter: hes basing CIg PobeIter: gnar f CIg PobeIter: ?? CIg PobeIter: who is pinging CIg PobeIter: who was spamming CIg PobeIter: please CIg PobeIter: they gonna tower fb CIg PobeIter: right now CIg PobeIter: why CIg PobeIter: does no1 give a sht CIg PobeIter: about top lane CIg PobeIter: gnar lived by 11 hp. if anyone came to auto he would have died CIg PobeIter: are we a team or what CIg PobeIter: aight i cant deal with this sorry guys not trying to troll CIg PobeIter: gonna permaroam and gank now CIg PobeIter: too late udyr CIg PobeIter: im not dealing with this any more CIg PobeIter: ? CIg PobeIter: then dont go in CIg PobeIter: i was already out CIg PobeIter: came in to save u CIg PobeIter: i cant hold sht lmfao CIg PobeIter: i roamed mid CIg PobeIter: i countered their jg CIg PobeIter: and while i did that CIg PobeIter: gnar fked me CIg PobeIter: over and over CIg PobeIter: i cant hold sht any more CIg PobeIter: ?????????? CIg PobeIter: ????????????????????????????????????? CIg PobeIter: what did i do CIg PobeIter: how exactly am i trolling CIg PobeIter: is that my fault as well? CIg PobeIter: lmfao im worthless? bro i was 15 cs up on first back CIg PobeIter: and i killed wukong mid CIg PobeIter: but gnar eventually bullies all melees CIg PobeIter: and no1 ever helped CIg PobeIter: dont call me worthless chump CIg PobeIter: really CIg PobeIter: tell me 1 melee CIg PobeIter: that gnar cant bully CIg PobeIter: lmao CIg PobeIter: he outscales both however CIg PobeIter: esp panth CIg PobeIter: ur telling me CIg PobeIter: panth scales better CIg PobeIter: than fking gnar? CIg PobeIter: muted CIg PobeIter: ? CIg PobeIter: i wasnt even far up? CIg PobeIter: i was here CIg PobeIter: i threw flag CIg PobeIter: they 5 manned me CIg PobeIter: no1 else wanted to get fking vision CIg PobeIter: even now

17 Comments

Friendly Ram12/3/2017, 2:38:44 AM5 votes

I'd love to see a smite on this. From what i've gathered you were trying to keep a team afloat and had some difficulty?

OnlyYouCanHearMe12/3/2017, 2:22:18 AM4 votes

Have you had a previous chat restriction? There's a fair bit of toxicity in these logs, enough that it would warrant a punishment, but what the punishment is would depend entirely on which level of punishment you were already at.

From the Instant Feedback System FAQs:

PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH:

  • First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction
  • Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction
  • Third Offense: Two Week Suspension
  • Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension

However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account.

So, if you had recently had a 25 game chat restriction, then this would naturally progress up to a 14 day suspension. If you haven't had a recent chat restriction, and these are the full, unedited logs, then you might want to send in a ticket to Player Support and ask them why you account was escalated.

Is this toxic? Yes. Is it the worst I've seen? Not by a long shot. Do I think it deserves an instant 14 day suspension? Nope. But, if you were already at the second offense, these logs would push you to the third.

Hellmaximus112/3/2017, 3:51:45 AM2 votes

My god, what did you do wrong? Even if he was chat restricted before, he didn't do anything I'd consider toxic, tried to keep his team from full tilting. I think what got you banned was previous 25 chat restriction + saying "worthless" "suicided" "i cant hold sht lmfao" "fking" Also i'm pretty sure riot auto system hits people who chat excessively as well.

But I don't think you will get unban since even the guy who got banned for saying "dude all game you called me a F**** " "report X on my team, he called me a F*****" was still banned even after posting on forums.

than there was someone who told another player to kys on aram for an execute revive and riot instantly banned him even after he clarified in teamchat, I mean sure they did UN-Ban him and then told him to never do it again like it was his fault for using a legit strategy, just goes to show riot is triple-downing on this automatic system response system that a lot of player don't like.

Sure I get the need for auto ban system, but for words deemed heinous by the community and ONLY those words. So far the system seems to get a lot of false positives on things the community deems fair or appropriate.

SeductiveCelery12/3/2017, 6:13:01 PM1 votes

doesnt constitute ban imo

Alkis912/3/2017, 7:30:53 PM1 votes

Yeah this ban is not exacly justified. I've seen and done WAY worse shit than this. Even when i started playing (in S4) and a couple more years i was really toxic. I never got a single chat ban. The only ban i ever got was because of the old leavebuster.

EL HAMSTERO12/3/2017, 8:37:16 PM1 votes

if you use chat regularly you Will end up banned

Cosnirak12/4/2017, 1:02:29 AM1 votes

Just doing game 1 to save myself time.

CIg PobeIter: its my first death kid

Don't call people you don't know "kid." Ever.

CIg PobeIter: if u cant see that their teamfight comp is like 3x as good as ours CIg PobeIter: u shouldnt be playing this game

Don't tell people they're too dumb to play the game.

CIg PobeIter: you guys are seeing this leona right CIg PobeIter: it's not just me that's hallucinating?

You're implying what Leona is doing is so horrendous you can't believe it. That's insulting. You're also implying your other teammates are bad for not taking issue with it as well.

CIg PobeIter: really now CIg PobeIter: 13/3 mf is weaker than leo CIg PobeIter: ok CIg PobeIter: u guys have no honor lmfao

Again you're insulting a teammate's intelligence and then insulting their honor simply because you disagree with their tactics.

CIg PobeIter: leona literally split pushed solo CIg PobeIter: as support CIg PobeIter: but ofc CIg PobeIter: its my fault

At this point you're harassing about the issue, even if you're correct that it isn't your fault. Personally I think it's fine to defend yourself from their accusations if you aren't otherwise breaking the rules, but here you're clearly harassing which breaks the rules. Riot seems to think people are in the wrong merely for defending themselves because that's "arguing with your teammates" and "chatting a lot instead of playing the game" which I think is bullshit but I still think you crossed the line here regardless.

Also just FYI Leona support solo pushing a lane isn't necessarily wrong. While I personally doubt the situation comes up often and thus I doubt it was correct here, I believe there are times where such a thing makes sense. She has 2 aoe basic abilities and come mid game if she has tier-2 boots (especially mobis) and a bunch of factors come together it makes sense for her to go turn a wave pushing towards your base into one pushing towards the enemy base before grouping up again. But if she's straight up clearing the whole wave, trying to last hit well, and then staying to push a high hp tower... yeah that's probably just incorrect. But poor play is not an excuse to harass or flame people.

Emerald Fang12/3/2017, 7:59:29 AM1 votes

You don’t deserve a ban at all; I’ll admit I’ve done worse, much worse without a ban (back in S6 when I was super toxic).

I guess the Riot employee was just having a bad day when he looked at the logs... Because you never directly insulted anyone, you never called anyone a name, you never gave death threats. And as far as I know cursing is fine as long as it isn’t directed towards another player as an insult.

General Esdeath 12/3/2017, 11:35:35 AM1 votes

Send in a ticket, this seems wrong