Riot Court of Appeals

Axes of Noxus·Jun 18, 2018·1 votes·1,597 views

Many trash bronzies say that they deserve plat but don't. However, some of them actually do. Some of us summoners are wronged by a streak of shit teams and drop a couple divisions as a result. With a match history, chat logs, and decent to above-average scores, someone should be allowed to make a plea to some rioter in a new Judge position to say "Hey, my rank was stolen from me, can I have it back once I show you that my mechanics haven't sunk to this level? Oh yeah, and here's the 5 afk's in the past 7 games I had too. Oh, and the 9 of 12 mid laners I had that gave up after 0/3 by 7." Hell, we can even bring back the Tribunal for this, but players should get to play in the elo they are, not what they are bound to.

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ModThe DjinnJun 18, 201810 votes

I know this isn't the answer you want, but this seems impractical for several reasons:

It's been proven time and time again that players can pretty accurately get back to their proper MMR after a fall. You may encounter some bad luck, but the solution is just to play more games.
The number of players using this system would be more than human judges could easily handle.
Human judges would be significantly more fallible than the computer system, and would not place players as accurately.
It is often difficult for a human to tell if a player has fallen in ELO due to getting a streak of bad luck, a series of games that went poorly for legitimate reasons, or a streak of GOOD luck that placed them higher than they should be.

Unstoppable MonkJun 20, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=u2N17OYr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-18T23:25:56.658+0000)

I know this isn't the answer you want, but this seems impractical for several reasons:

It's been proven time and time again that players can pretty accurately get back to their proper MMR after a fall. You may encounter some bad luck, but the solution is just to play more games.

The number of players using this system would be more than human judges could easily handle.

Human judges would be significantly more fallible than the computer system, and would not place players as accurately.

It is often difficult for a human to tell if a player has fallen in ELO due to getting a streak of bad luck, a series of games that went poorly for legitimate reasons, or a streak of GOOD luck that placed them higher than they should be.

No, it's really not hard to see what games are completely unfair once you learn enough patterns. I honestly don't know what faulty logic is going on here, but there was no attempt to fix some of the more core broken things about low elo climbing up. For Season 9 there's going to be the autofill dilemma fixed and adjustments to honor, but it still doesn't stop people who ranked queue that shouldn't.

JamareeJun 18, 20188 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axes of Noxus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=u2N17OYr,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-18T23:20:13.367+0000)

Many trash bronzies say that they deserve plat but don't. However, some of them actually do.

No they don’t, someone who was actually plat level would have so little trouble getting out of bronze it wouldn’t be funny.

Some of us summoners are wronged by a streak of shit teams and drop a couple divisions as a result. With a match history, chat logs, and decent to above-average scores, someone should be allowed to make a plea to some rioter in a new Judge position to say "Hey, my rank was stolen from me, can I have it back once I show you that my mechanics haven't sunk to this level? Oh yeah, and here's the 5 afk's in the past 7 games I had too. Oh, and the 9 of 12 mid laners I had that gave up after 0/3 by 7." Hell, we can even bring back the Tribunal for this, but players should get to play in the elo they are, not what they are bound to.

No.

Axes of NoxusJul 10, 20181 votes

So going 8/1/6 over half your games and still losing because of a 3/15 combined bot lane is your rightful loss? Even if you tp gank bot to try and snowball them or have perfect pings on enemy positioning that your allies don't listen to?

JamareeJul 10, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=Axes of Noxus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=u2N17OYr,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-07-10T04:03:00.082+0000)

So going 8/1/6 over half your games and still losing because of a 3/15 combined bot lane is your rightful loss? Even if you tp gank bot to try and snowball them or have perfect pings on enemy positioning that your allies don't listen to?

As opposed to when you go 4/10 and get carried, or 0/2, or 4/9, or 1/8 right?

Also, 21 days?

Kei143Jun 18, 20185 votes

Ummm... I started the season in bronze4. After 1/2 the season I've reach my goal of silver5 now while playing 3-5 ranked games per week.

It honestly wasn't that hard. If you truly deserve plat, you should be able to climb out of your ELO, regardless of how badly you've tanked your MMR.

KarunamonJun 19, 20181 votes

I don't want to sound like a douche here, but you climbed not even a full league. Going from B->P is a much larger skill disparity than going from B->S. I mean you deserve props for making and reaching a goal and getting out of bronze hell, but you basically said that climbing this canyon wasn't that hard so climbing Everest should be a cakewalk.

To put it another way, getting into Plat puts you in the top 10% of players on the planet.

Kei143Jun 19, 20183 votes

If he was truly a plat, he can get out of gold easily.

The relative difficulty is the same as me getting out of bronze.

Verbally AbusingJun 19, 20182 votes

You are just something else. If you are in bronze it's because you are ment to be there for the time. It's called carry yourself if you want to get anywhere on the ladder.

Axes of NoxusJul 10, 20181 votes

1/7 bot lane by 9 minutes isn't something that can really be carried in this meta