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Opinions on whether these chat logs warrant a 14 day ban?

BazzyKrunkz··2 votes·1,124 views

Please read: I'm not looking for forgiveness, I just want honest opinions here

Hey guys, I'm shamelessly putting my logs here. I got a 14 day and clearly need to reform, but to be honest, I'm extremely scared of a permaban.

Context: I made it into promos for Gold 1, and played these two games: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2670503166/50153687?tab=overview https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2670521730/50153687?tab=overview Corresponding to game 1 and game 2 of the chat logs.

The ban was applied literally 5 seconds out of game 2, which leads me to believe this was automated and not done by player support?

Anyways, here are the chat logs: https://pastebin.com/5Um7c2Nr

I truthfully don't think these warrant a 14 day ban. The most toxic thing I said was "Graves stay the fk out of my lane" to a troll Graves (he went 6/16...I'm sorry it's tilting) and one time "this team fuckin blows"

I never specifically called anyone out. I never used racism, homophobia, or a death threat/"kys" like people are usually banned for.

Please, I hope someone reevaluates this. Also, if it is toxic, explain how? I've seen friends and even popular streamers do WAY worse with 0 punishment. I honestly think I just got mass reported and I got auto banned.

Thank you for reading. Should I submit a support ticket?

21 Comments

deathgod54 votes

For people that don't trust links

Game 1 BazzyKrunkz: viet nam la so mot BazzyKrunkz: :)) BazzyKrunkz: guys pkz BazzyKrunkz: plz BazzyKrunkz: chill BazzyKrunkz: u need to stop dying i can solo carry this BazzyKrunkz: plz dont make me 1v5 two games in a row BazzyKrunkz: rumble ali top BazzyKrunkz: aaand bot dead again BazzyKrunkz: ugh this game is so over BazzyKrunkz: great BazzyKrunkz: 0/7 combined bot and mid BazzyKrunkz: before 10 BazzyKrunkz: its over lol BazzyKrunkz: you're hella pushed BazzyKrunkz: every time i look mid BazzyKrunkz: our 0/7 botlane BazzyKrunkz: lmao BazzyKrunkz: cant even 2v1 a vayne BazzyKrunkz: yikes BazzyKrunkz: fun game BazzyKrunkz: so BazzyKrunkz: how did you lose to a vayne BazzyKrunkz: LMAO BazzyKrunkz: jesus christ BazzyKrunkz: welp BazzyKrunkz: i tried BazzyKrunkz: team is 0/13 by 12 minutes BazzyKrunkz: yikes BazzyKrunkz: ok just open mid BazzyKrunkz: open mid BazzyKrunkz: ggwp
BazzyKrunkz: how people just die over and over this much BazzyKrunkz: at this elo BazzyKrunkz: is beyond me BazzyKrunkz: but oh well BazzyKrunkz: team just afk BazzyKrunkz: let them end BazzyKrunkz: plz BazzyKrunkz: let them end BazzyKrunkz: its over BazzyKrunkz: ????????? BazzyKrunkz: wtf is this fuckin game lmaooo BazzyKrunkz: this matchmaking BazzyKrunkz: is such a joke BazzyKrunkz: two games in a row BazzyKrunkz: not even BazzyKrunkz: everything i said has been in all chat BazzyKrunkz: saying team is 0/13 BazzyKrunkz: at 12 minutes BazzyKrunkz: isnt toxic imo BazzyKrunkz: not saying anyone is bad BazzyKrunkz: just a bad game BazzyKrunkz: :p BazzyKrunkz: shes just saying im toxic because they're inting BazzyKrunkz: k BazzyKrunkz: i was 2/1 BazzyKrunkz: the score was 2/13 BazzyKrunkz: ya BazzyKrunkz: this game sucks BazzyKrunkz: im sorry BazzyKrunkz: its been a 3v1 top BazzyKrunkz: for the last 10 minutes BazzyKrunkz: :( BazzyKrunkz: game just ruins my mood BazzyKrunkz: when there's 0 chancwe BazzyKrunkz: of doing anything BazzyKrunkz: Because everyone dies so much in 5 minutes BazzyKrunkz: idk man its late BazzyKrunkz: and its promos BazzyKrunkz: two games in a row BazzyKrunkz: im 19 BazzyKrunkz: 18* BazzyKrunkz: maybe BazzyKrunkz: idk why u talk so much shit BazzyKrunkz: havent shit talked anyone BazzyKrunkz: RIP promos BazzyKrunkz: went 22/8 last game BazzyKrunkz: rest of my team went combined 7/42 BazzyKrunkz: :) BazzyKrunkz: plzend BazzyKrunkz: nah BazzyKrunkz: not a regular game BazzyKrunkz: 3v1 Game 2 BazzyKrunkz: what do u mean BazzyKrunkz: i have 144hz BazzyKrunkz: turn off vsync to go +60 BazzyKrunkz: gjgj BazzyKrunkz: graves BazzyKrunkz: why BazzyKrunkz: clean BazzyKrunkz: vlad busted BazzyKrunkz: omfg BazzyKrunkz: stay BazzyKrunkz: the fk BazzyKrunkz: out BazzyKrunkz: of my lane BazzyKrunkz: ff BazzyKrunkz: s BazzyKrunkz: his ult BazzyKrunkz: we plz get drag BazzyKrunkz: 2 infernals BazzyKrunkz: leggo BazzyKrunkz: lmao jax BazzyKrunkz: GOAT botlane BazzyKrunkz: nm riven op BazzyKrunkz: NM XERATH OP BazzyKrunkz: i feel like BazzyKrunkz: a scriptiong xerath BazzyKrunkz: Would be way more fed BazzyKrunkz: vs a botlane with 0 dashes BazzyKrunkz: but thats just me BazzyKrunkz: omggg BazzyKrunkz: zzz BazzyKrunkz: changed to smite by accident BazzyKrunkz: xddd BazzyKrunkz: baron BazzyKrunkz: plz BazzyKrunkz: wait BazzyKrunkz: everyone died BazzyKrunkz: i was 4v1ing the entire time BazzyKrunkz: who tf killed you BazzyKrunkz: my god you're all so weak BazzyKrunkz: wtf BazzyKrunkz: i killed their riven BazzyKrunkz: instantly BazzyKrunkz: who tf killed all of you BazzyKrunkz: lmao BazzyKrunkz: useless team BazzyKrunkz: this game is an actual 1v5 BazzyKrunkz: i thought botlane won BazzyKrunkz: guess not BazzyKrunkz: jhin BazzyKrunkz: can you plz BazzyKrunkz: stop dying BazzyKrunkz: instantly BazzyKrunkz: do you know how toposition BazzyKrunkz: i;ve been 1v4ing BazzyKrunkz: every teamfight BazzyKrunkz: its almost like its a fed riven BazzyKrunkz: and you're an adc BazzyKrunkz: no BazzyKrunkz: graves BazzyKrunkz: miss smite BazzyKrunkz: he hasnt done anything good all game BazzyKrunkz: dont trust him now BazzyKrunkz: BARON BazzyKrunkz: JAX DEAD BazzyKrunkz: Jhin recalled :') BazzyKrunkz: 4/12 BazzyKrunkz: 6/15 BazzyKrunkz: what the honest fuck BazzyKrunkz: 7/12 ad BazzyKrunkz: jesus christ BazzyKrunkz: HOW BazzyKrunkz: OMFG BazzyKrunkz: team fuckin blows BazzyKrunkz: gg BazzyKrunkz: actuawl 1v5

nerak231 votes

{quoted}

For people that don't trust links

Thanks I don't trust them myself, today I did look.

I wish everyone would put them up like this, besides it is easier to refer to.

Ricje3 votes

Short version: Yes, it warrants a 14 day ban if you've had a punishment before (chat restrictions for example).

Long version: You're constantly belittling your teammates, arguing with them and constantly expressing a negative attitude towards them. Not only that but your constant belittling leads them to respond to you, which in the long run leads to more arguing from your side resulting in a never ending circle.

The attitude you've shown in the log was a valid reason for them to report you and get you punished.

I never specifically called anyone out. I never used racism, homophobia, or a death threat/"kys" like people are usually banned for.

BazzyKrunkz: 0/7 combined bot and mid BazzyKrunkz: before 10 BazzyKrunkz: its over lol

BazzyKrunkz: our 0/7 botlane BazzyKrunkz: lmao BazzyKrunkz: cant even 2v1 a vayne

BazzyKrunkz: no BazzyKrunkz: graves BazzyKrunkz: miss smite BazzyKrunkz: he hasnt done anything good all game

I'm sorry, you were saying?

BazzyKrunkz1 votes

Maybe it's just me... But I never called them bad players, or insulted them. I legit just said they are 0/7, the game was over at that point. I don't care that they had a bad game. I don't personally think that's toxic in the slightest. Maybe that's just me.

The Graves call was to get my team to not do baron. Graves was 6/16, not listening to anyone and missed smite like 2-3 times. At that point I was just doing everything I could to win. I don't see how that's toxic either, to be honest......

Ricje3 votes

If you don't see the toxicity in the way you talked to your teammates then I'm afraid that end up with a perma-ban shortly after being unbanned. Sorry but I'm just being realistic here. See it as an eye opener.

I've pointed out what you did wrong and you don't see how that's toxic? I suggest you learn from what I (and others) point out about your behaviour. It's your account in the end though so you can do whatever you want.

Just trying to help you.

BazzyKrunkz1 votes

So after 2 games in a row in promos of absolute hopelessness, commenting on an 0/7 botlane, not even insultingly, just stating the score, is bannable.

Got it. That's completely reasonable.

Ricje3 votes

I suggest you re-read my initial response in its entirety as you went further than "just stating the score". Allow me to highlight specifics;

You're constantly belittling your teammates, arguing with them and constantly expressing a negative attitude towards them. Not only that but your **_constant _**belittling leads them to respond to you, which in the long run leads to more arguing from your side resulting in a never ending circle.

nerak232 votes

{quoted}

Maybe it's just me... But I never called them bad players, or insulted them. I legit just said they are 0/7, the game was over at that point. I don't care that they had a bad game. I don't personally think that's toxic in the slightest. Maybe that's just me.

The Graves call was to get my team to not do baron. Graves was 6/16, not listening to anyone and missed smite like 2-3 times. At that point I was just doing everything I could to win. I don't see how that's toxic either, to be honest......

You may not see it as toxic/reportable but someone did. Thess logs don't have any trigger words I seen so it means someone reported you.

That should help you to understand or at least consider that other players don't want it in their games.

It does seem like you've been punished before for this to go straight 14 days, if so then this is correct and current punishment path. If not send in a ticket.

Also realize, this is for everyone reading, Riot is cracking down on consistent negative chat. If what I see and read is correct it is going to continue to do so. ( IMO, not backed by a Riot direct comment).

GustavejYnV2 votes

@riot tantram

GustavejYnV1 votes

LOL hope someone sees this

in no world are these worthy of a 14 day ban

fatherdarius1 votes

Worthy of a Chat ban.

If it's up to 14 days due to previous infractions, then it's worth the 14 day ban.

TheProfezzor1 votes

Eh, it's not horrible but it is decently toxic. That being said, Riot matchmaking is garbage, much like your teammates, and this kind of garbage matchmaking perpetuates toxic behavior. You have to learn to type less bud. I've been in your same bot before, not sure about 14 day game ban but multiple chat bans. Just realize that it may feel good to type your stress out, find another outlet, unless you have no money invested into skins and you don't care if your account gets permed. I have a couple hundred on this account so I am not trying to get a ban.

BazzyKrunkz1 votes

What do you think was toxic about it? Calling open mid, perhaps. But I didn't say that and then AFK, I just asked my team to open mid because it was a clear loss. I still continued to play and (hopelessly) try to win.

But oh well, you're definitely right, thanks for the opinion. Still don't think it warrants a 14 day suspension...

Void Nargacuga2 votes

Did you have a 25 game chat restriction before this?

RallerenP1 votes

Any previous punishments? I would only think this would be worth a 14-day ban if you previously had a 25-game chat restriction. If you don't have any previous punishments then yes, you should submit a ticket.

It's toxic in the sense that you were really trying to pull down the morale of your team. You were berating them over and over and giving up telling people to afk.

Just to be sure i'm not trying to be rude, but you did ask for an honest opinion :)

The system works in tiers:

10 game chat restriction 25 game chat restriction 14-day Permaban

After a punishment you move down a tier towards permaban. After a while (~3 months) of not getting punished you move up again.

BazzyKrunkz1 votes

Thank you for your opinion. Yes, I admittedly have received previous chat restrictions.

xPhantomDancerX1 votes

Riot intentionally put boosted af players, or unranked players in people's promos. Sometimes when it's not even promos. Like legit a few games back I had TWO unranked players, AND a bronze player on my team, while the other team had all high silvers. I'm s2.

I remember in my gold promos I had gold team mates who played like bronzes and died like 5 times in 5 minutes...I am legit confused, like, how are these gold players going 0/10, while a silver player like me has the highest kda in the whole team.

Karunamon1 votes

Please, I hope someone reevaluates this. Also, if it is toxic, explain how? I've seen friends and even popular streamers do WAY worse with 0 punishment. I honestly think I just got mass reported and I got auto banned.

I don't see anything in your chat that should get you a 14 day ban on itself, but I think you've been punished before.

This is a vastly simplified version of how the system works:

http://tkwa.re/leaguereporttiers

If you're behaving lowkey toxic over a long period of time, you start climbing the ladder. You happened to be on the second step and got a valid report again, and now you're on the third step.

Stop berating your team, stop typing novels in chat, and concentrate on your own performance. Your next punishment, no matter what for, will result in a permaban. Start muting all at the beginning of the match if you have to.

Fegone1 votes

i mean look, you're writing a wall of text throughout the game on the chat and nothing about what you wrote is positive. You're spreading negativity all game long, you really think that's making the game more enjoyable for anyone else?

You had chat restrictions before for a reason, obviously you didn't learn from that, and continue to harass other players. This is your last chance. mute all if you can't control yourself or get perma banned. Seriously, if you do not understand why you got this punishment, you will, 100% , get permabanned. because that means you won't change.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Yeeeah... unfortunately you were harassing your team about their performance. I didn't even read all of it, the first half is enough evidence that Riot needs to show that you don't follow the summoners code.

fatherdarius1 votes

"BazzyKrunkz: team is 0/13 by 12 minutes BazzyKrunkz: yikes BazzyKrunkz: ok just open mid BazzyKrunkz: open mid"

Worthy of a chat ban right there, IMO. Everything else is just gravy.

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