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Perma Banned as my first punishment ever

XxLambsRespitexX··4 votes·5,655 views

So i was playing recently and I will not lie I was insanely toxic for like 3 games straight. I know everyone here can relate ur just about to make it out of ur division and then 5 games in a row you get trolled or just crushed by the enemy team. Well anyway after the last one I get a mesg saying basically im a horrible person (lol) and my account has been PERMENTALY suspended, now I could see this IF I had been banned at all previously ... but I have not this is the first time I'm getting punished other than a 5 game chat restriction and now im just permbanned? How is this fair no warning no 2 -3 day ban no 1-2 week ban NOT EVEN A YEAR BAN just nope just " ur $2000 you spent on our game and 4 years of your time playing mean nothing have a nice day" -Riot games Come on now I have friends who are 10x as toxic as I am and I'm not even consistant with it I was having a bad day and lashed out I do not deserve to be perma banned I can understand a few weeks but perma? jesus.... So does anyone think this is fair first time being punished and slapped with a perma ban this is something I would expect to happen in Dofus or Runescape not League of the Legends

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RiotRiot Tantram16 votes

The chat restriction you got was a warning.

I've read your chat logs, and have a hard time believing you have friends who are 10x as toxic and haven't been punished. But, feel free to post your chat logs if you'd like to have an open discussion.

Players who are EXTREMELY toxic can completely skip punishment tiers.

God Mode Enabled1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ttKTzmXy,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2016-01-07T01:27:40.652+0000)

The chat restriction you got was a warning.

I've read your chat logs, and have a hard time believing you have friends who are 10x as toxic and haven't been punished. But, feel free to post your chat logs if you'd like to have an open discussion.

Players who are EXTREMELY toxic can completely skip punishment tiers.

meanwhile you give me a 2 week ban for speaking the truth to people. If you consider calling someone an asshole for sitting under an enemy tower literally not even moving to give them free kills 5+ times harassment, then you people are retarded. flat out. Yall abuse your TOS and EULA to ban people who have spent $$$'s just because you know they will make another account and spend more $$$'s and its fucking sickening to see that a major gaming company has resorted to manipulating and abusing their clients

sirwaterfles2 votes

With this aditude I see a permaban comming your way.

Prior of the Ori2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ttKTzmXy,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2016-01-07T01:27:40.652+0000)

The chat restriction you got was a warning.

I've read your chat logs, and have a hard time believing you have friends who are 10x as toxic and haven't been punished. But, feel free to post your chat logs if you'd like to have an open discussion.

Players who are EXTREMELY toxic can completely skip punishment tiers.

Didn't know this, that's awesome. I fully support this!

Xzbit1 votes

:D

IcyPepper10 votes

How much money you've spent has no bearing on what punishments you receive

:/

alasarcher6 votes

Boy, if u got perma ban as your first punishment, you fucked up badly.

XxLambsRespitexX1 votes

Yea I screwed up ....

PlatypusSurprise5 votes

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 but I have not this is the first time I'm getting punished **other than a 5 game chat restriction** and now im just permbanned?

It's a 4 tiered ban system two chat restrictions and two game time bans. You already had the first tier happen in the past then you said you were "insanely toxic for like 3 games straight" so it skipped the next two tiers and went to permaban.

Kãtãrinã7 votes

If you are toxic enough you can be permabanned from one game with no previous offenses.

MasterSomething4 votes

People are toxic, they get bans and the strike system. You were exceptionally toxic, so you went to Strike 4 near immediately. You deserve it for flaming and being toxic. No "my friends are more toxic" excuses- I hear that shit all the time.

Amber Lynn4 votes

Is there a way you can post your chat from the game? I read that if it is severe enough a situation it skips lower punishments and goes strait to harsher ones.

Randomonium4 votes

They only skip the strike system for what they deem to be "exceptional" cases. Typically this is when a person uses racial or homophobic slurs, makes death threats or engages in excessive cyber bullying (i.e. repeatedly telling someone they should kill themselves.) Since you're ashamed to post you logs I'm guessing one of those was involved. As a consolation every single permanent ban is reviewed by a Riot employee so you were not permanent banned by an automated system, someone actually took the time to read through your chat logs and deemed your behavior warranted immediate and severe punishment. You can try to appeal if you want with a support ticket but those rarely result in bans being overturned.

XxLambsRespitexX1 votes

Idk if its reveiwed it was pretty much instant after the last game I got reported no way somebody could read that fast but yea one of them was true Im not racist or homophobic and I wouldnt threaten anyone... so yea but its chill after the initial blow wore off Im actually kind of happy with being banned as weird as that sounds. Honestly the money and time I'd spent on that account is the only reason I was still playing league the game isnt even fun anymore, between the worest balance I've ever seen in a game and people who que for ranked only to first time leesin I'm honestly sick of it. thanks for the replys guys AND Good luck on the Rift. Ima go try Smite and Dota2 and see if either of those are better than LoL. good luck guys!

Randomonium1 votes

It could be that your account was already being reviewed and then you got reported again while the review was taking place. The other option was that the review was completed and punishment issued while you were in a game but didn't take effect until you finished your game (i.e. the last game you played wasn't the one that got you banned, it was the ones you played before that one.) Instabans don't usually happen because of one game.

Good luck in other games.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

This is true about if they're exceptional, however i 100% disagree that permabans are reviewed by employees. I have been with people who get out of their toxic game and get shut down within 2 minutes of being reported saying they got permabanned. I think they still get an automated reform card, but I highly doubt riot reviews permabans personally.

Randomonium1 votes

See my post 2 below this one. There are very valid explanations for why this would happen. Riot has said on many occasions that each permanent ban is reviewed by a Riot employee.

wilsuport4coffee2 votes

I had a friend.......let's call himmmmm..........Billy.

Billy has had a 25 game chat restriction in the past. Been mild since then because Billy isn't a consistently toxic player, he's a player that after some build up tilts harder than I've seen anyone tilt, then flips shit.

While Billy is playing ranked one day, I warn him to stop! because he's tilting hard af already and he's going to get 2 week banned. He played about 2 games being hypertoxic IE: homophobic and racial slurs, and was permanently banned in literally no time, right after game 2.

That's not a case that's been reviewed. I don't think riot does half the stuff they claim to do, they're a very greedy company with almost no hands on approach to their player base at all, and have always taken a personal hands off approach in how they deal with toxicity: IE the tribunal, and now the automated system. Riot, as a company, has never dealt with it themselves.

They barely take into consideration what the player base asks for, and beat around the bush if they do. I can't stand them, I'm just addicted to their game.

EvilDustMan3 votes

{quoted}

I had a friend.......let's call himmmmm..........Billy.

Billy has had a 25 game chat restriction in the past. Been mild since then because Billy isn't a consistently toxic player, he's a player that after some build up tilts harder than I've seen anyone tilt, then flips shit.

While Billy is playing ranked one day, I warn him to stop! because he's tilting hard af already and he's going to get 2 week banned. He played about 2 games being hypertoxic IE: homophobic and racial slurs, and was permanently banned in literally no time, right after game 2.

That's not a case that's been reviewed. I don't think riot does half the stuff they claim to do, they're a very greedy company with almost no hands on approach to their player base at all, and have always taken a personal hands off approach in how they deal with toxicity: IE the tribunal, and now the automated system. Riot, as a company, has never dealt with it themselves.

They barely take into consideration what the player base asks for, and beat around the bush if they do. I can't stand them, I'm just addicted to their game.

Oh no, Riot didn't handle it themselves. They made a system that takes the community's interests and does it for them. Oh no...

Oh no, they got rid of Billy because Billy was being a turd, oh no.

Oh no, they want to make money by getting rid of the toxic players, oh no.

Oh nooooo.

ooooooh noooooo.

oooooooooh nooooooooooo.

wilsuport4coffee2 votes

I'm not saying it's wrong, or that it was wrong, I'm saying riot doesn't handle (all) permabans personally. I bet you could even pick people off the boards on their QQ threads and ask them how long after being reported did they get banned, and they'll probably tell you not too long.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

What the heck, did you even read? He wasn't complaining, he was bringing proof. Please read next time. Please.

Randomonium2 votes

So let me get this straight. Billy plays a game where he is extremely toxic, throwing out racial and homophobic slurs. He obviously gets reported and the system recognizes it's an extreme case. The system forwards the case immediately to a Riot employee. This employee reviews the game and while he is finishing up his review Billy's second game finishes and he is reported yet again for extreme toxicity. Do you really think it's going to take that employee a long time to bring down the ban hammer?

I used to participate in the tribunal and for some extreme cases you could review 5 gamrs in less than 2 minutes and tell the guy deserved a permanent ban. I don't see why a Riot employee who does this for his job wouldn't be able to do the same.

Unless you have some better evidence that Riot is blatantly lying I'm just going to dismiss this as you blowing smoke.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

It fits my case, doesn't it? Riot doesn't handle all permabans personally. I'd say the majority of permabans aren't handled personally, and I'm not taking riot's word that they are.

Unless you have evidence that they do besides "their word" I'm not believing it otherwise.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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It fits my case, doesn't it? Riot doesn't handle all permabans personally. I'd say the majority of permabans aren't handled personally, and I'm not taking riot's word that they are.

Unless you have evidence that they do besides "their word" I'm not believing it otherwise.

I can't remember if they said they handle permabans personally. There aren't actually enough of them that they'd need to automate the entire process. However, in extreme extreme cases, I don't really care.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

Personally, I don't think think they do. buuuuuuut enough people qq on the boards everyday about being permabanned, so who knows.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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Personally, I don't think think they do. buuuuuuut enough people qq on the boards everyday about being permabanned, so who knows.

Yea, but enough people is like 1-2 people a day out of the millions of players.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

well that's also just the people who post about it

EvilDustMan1 votes

{quoted}

well that's also just the people who post about it

It's still like .006%

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

agree to disagree. I, myself, was permabanned once, and have also met quite a few other people who have been as well. small world?

Randomonium1 votes

Eh, I guess this is a glass half full or glass half empty argument. I assume people are telling the truth unless I have proof otherwise and you assume people are lying unless you have proof otherwise.

Samus721 votes

{quoted}

This is true about if they're exceptional, however i 100% disagree that permabans are reviewed by employees. I have been with people who get out of their toxic game and get shut down within 2 minutes of being reported saying they got permabanned. I think they still get an automated reform card, but I highly doubt riot reviews permabans personally.

And you know this based off of what, the thoughts in your head? Riot has said on several occasions that permanent ban situations are reviewed by a person.

The ban hammer falling on a first offense is rare. But Riot has said that in extreme cases, they will do so. There was a post yesterday from a player upset that they were banned for only one incident. Riots response informed the player that they violated all three categories, slurs, harassment, and death threats, and was deemed removable. The OP must have done the same and warranted the same.

It's too bad the OP's shame didn't kick in earlier and keep them from even thinking that typing out such crap was a good idea. Personally, once someone tells someone to die, I would have banned them without hesitation. We don't need that in any game.

wilsuport4coffee1 votes

I know this because I have seen it more than once.

Riot also claims they review post game lobby, yet post game discussions are never included in reform cards and are never the cause of anyone getting banned. Most of the time I wait it out during game, then I can vent my frustrations in post game lobby, and it's never ever been an issue. More than likely reporting someone because of something they said post game comes back to be a false report because it wasn't said in game.

I love league of legends, I do not love Riot by any means. I think they're a a really bad, greedy company that tries to be vague enough so they don't look bad.

Riot says a lot of things, and I don't ever take what they say to have any meaning to it. They promise they'll do XYZ and never really get around to it and their terrible customer service shows you just how much they care.

FrostArcher KDA1 votes

Sorry but Im going to agree with willsupport4coffee I got banned 2 1/2 mins after the game chat they sent me. Thats not enough time. And youre like.. Bronze why are you still commenting on peoples stuff saying "we dont need that in game" you dont really even contribute. you just kinda sit on forums... lol.

LukeTheSheppy4 votes

I wanna see these logs

XxLambsRespitexX1 votes

log on curse and send me ur room key or gimmie ur skype and I'll send them to u

LukeTheSheppy11 votes

{quoted}

log on curse and send me ur room key or gimmie ur skype and I'll send them to u

Or

Just post them here?

Primaquarius3 votes

Let me tell you why that's bullsht...

Money put into the game does not guarantee immunity from Bans, and there is always a sequence to bans given

XxLambsRespitexX1 votes

yea well the sequence for me was "BAN HAMMER!"

Disneylord2 votes

How the hell did you spend 2000 in League lier, with 2000 you buy 2 times all champions/skins and icons noone would ever be so dumb to do this in a free to play chinese minigame that is not even on steam

Horse Grenades1 votes

I don't know. It seems doable.

ModPrandine2 votes

Honestly if you want more people to discuss this with you then you need to go ahead and just post your Reform Card here. Since you haven't done so yet, it gives the impression that you know the kind of behavior that got you in trouble but don't want anyone else to know about it. By posting the Reform Card it allows us to help you understand which areas that you can improve your behavior in, which we can't do unless you post your Reform Card here.

XxLambsRespitexX1 votes

I already know i screwed up after so many game of getting trolled in a row you lose ur cool, but its w/e I'm done with league they just wanna cater to children who cant handle being called bad names fine by me. Real life is gonna suck for these people.

ModPrandine1 votes

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I already know i screwed up after so many game of getting trolled in a row you lose ur cool, but its w/e I'm done with league they just wanna cater to children who cant handle being called bad names fine by me. Real life is gonna suck for these people.

And it's comments like these that prove that your punishment was deserved. You know you messed up and you even admit that you messed up so why waste time trying to shift the blame to others instead of just trying to improve your behavior for the better? I've been active in the LoL boards community for years, and the majority of people who try to make up excuses like "Riot caters to children who can't handle my insults directed at them" are the ones who have been punished. It's not that people can't handle being called bad names, it's that we shouldn't have to put up with your name calling and insults whenever things don't go your way: that's what a young child does (young children and immature people who refuse to accept the fact that their poor behavior wasn't acceptable).

Yes being trollled constantly is annoying, I've experienced it myself. However, just because someone else is being a jerk doesn't give you the right to act like a jerk yourself. From the Tribunal FAQ:

That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned??? I'll keep this one simple: those other players in your game that you thought were worse are probably also banned. Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on.

We strongly believe that it is not OK to retaliate. If a player refuses to cooperate and says something negative, then players should ignore the player and report them after the game. Players can ignore or mute players by pressing the “Mute” button on the Scoreboard [when you hit TAB] in the game.

If a player retaliates and says something bad back, then the two of you have made a negative experience for potentially the other 8 players in the game. Rarely do teams start working together better when players begin fighting back—great games only happen when players cooperate and don’t make the issues even worse by fighting back and forth.

If you've had a string of bad games in a row then, as hard as it may be to do, consider taking a break to cool off and calm down. Remember that the only person that you can control is yourself. Use your chat restriction to learn from your mistakes and improve your behavior for the better. If you refuse to do so then you'll just continue to get punished over and over again. HINT: Acting like you've been doing here is certainly NOT the way to go about reforming yourself in the future, that's for sure.

Fasmodey2 votes

I can't imagine how you much you flamed and been toxic. You probably made racism and homophobia combined, other than it's really hard. You should get an achievement.

Metalhead71 votes

If you game on ranked and where toxic then you knew this was coming, ragers are not spouse to be given a 2nd chance, you have your opportunity to be a better summoner but you let toxicity convinced you....

another one kicked out of the league. still this dose not solve the problem i keep having for more than 3 years now the hate againts the unranked and the bronze.

People massive reporting us cause we suck in the game, discrimination of pros againts us cause our elo sucks, Ragers spreading false rumors to a player who plays bad in the game.

This is the real situation and don't you dare say this is not something you do cause admit it you ragers are all of the same.

XxLambsRespitexX1 votes

Thx for all the comments guys, League is in the tank. The balance system fails, the community is all ragers because the game itself is rage inducing and you can have all ur progress lost with one ban. SCREW RIOT SCREW LEAGUE Ima go find a game that hasnt been watered down for profit.

Tru3che6 votes

Posts like this make your original plea moot. You ask if the punishment is fair and then yell screw the company that 'did you wrong'. My best advice is to take a break from the game if you ever find yourself being toxic. In all honesty you never should have allowed yourself to get to game 3 of toxicity. You obviously aren't playing your best when you're in that mindset. Sometimes all it takes is a brisk walk or another activity to cooldown and try again in an hour. If you have two rage-filled games back to back that's a sign that you should take a break from league for the day. I've had days like this where all I want to do is play, but other things have me in a bitter mood so I find something else to do. You have to remember, win or lose, carry or feed, no one wants to deal with negativity. A harsh lesson perhaps, but hopefully one you learned and can bounce back from. Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do!

XxLambsRespitexX

No no no I realise I deserve to be bent over ritos knee for it but jesus if my son steals a cookie I dont shoot him in the foot I pop his hand and hoenstly I dont wanna post the logs I'm genuinely ashamed of myself.

Amber Lynn1 votes

I can respect that. If it's really severe that might be why though?

XxLambsRespitexX1 votes

I guess still seems like a little overkill to me :/ I really like League would be a shame for one bad day to end it.

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