Contesting Chat Restriction

Hiway3hell··2 votes·585 views

The Hecarim and Nasus who reported me were a duo queue pair, they had camped me and flamed me during the previous game, so I had a bad game. In the next game, I was on the same team as them, I called top and locked my champion, and then Nasus said he was going top because of how bad I was last game and he wouldn't allow me to top. We ended up duo top lane because neither of us would budge. The entirety of the lane phase consisted of me trying to 1v2 the lane because Nasus refused to do anything btu last hit minions, and outright walked away from ganks or fights and laughed. He said, "you're not my team mate and I only help team mates" In response to me asking why he wasn't helping me. Then when I accused him of outright refusing to assist me in any way, he responded with " Yep, that's what i'm trying to do" outright admitting that was his intent.

I feel like I dealt with this situation pretty fairly considering the circumstances, and they reported me for simply going top, because they were a duo queue reporting, I was instantly chat restricted. This seems highly unfair and a serious problem with the report system that 2 people can report and have a player instantly restricted. Ideally i'd like my restriction removed as I don't feel it's deserved, however If that's not possible some feedback on where I went wrong would be helpful, thanks in advance.

Here is a copy of the restriction message.

Game 1 Hiway3hell: you and this hec are duo huh? Hiway3hell: makes sense why i was camped now Hiway3hell: yuh Hiway3hell: You camp top anything like last game Hiway3hell: and im sure well be fine Hiway3hell: Sorry jhin i called it Hiway3hell: thanks for the help Hiway3hell: buddy Hiway3hell: yeah and you know when you report people Hiway3hell: they read chat Hiway3hell: right Hiway3hell: my team mate wouldnt takje top after i called it Hiway3hell: k Hiway3hell: youre actually treying to get me killed Hiway3hell: impressive Hiway3hell: report nasus pls Hiway3hell: admitted to trying to get me killed basically lol Hiway3hell: so go all out on llaoi Hiway3hell: pls report Hiway3hell: standing and watching me die Hiway3hell: I CALLED top Hiway3hell: nah Hiway3hell: not anymore Hiway3hell: idc if i dont get another cs Hiway3hell: all game Hiway3hell: im staying top Hiway3hell: u and ur butt buddy hec lol Hiway3hell: Again with this nasus Hiway3hell: just stands and watches Hiway3hell: you're going to get banned its k Hiway3hell: well see Hiway3hell: ? Hiway3hell: is that english? Hiway3hell: yeah what for? Hiway3hell: I'd like to know Hiway3hell: That's not a report unfortunately :( Hiway3hell: try again Hiway3hell: You saw nasus sit by and watch me die multiple times Hiway3hell: so yeah Hiway3hell: :( Hiway3hell: sorry i called top Hiway3hell: that means i get top Hiway3hell: youve sat by and watched me die lol Hiway3hell: multiple times Hiway3hell: thx hec Hiway3hell: good gank Hiway3hell: appreciate it Hiway3hell: :( Hiway3hell: I just wish youd quit feeding Hiway3hell: I'm not trolling? Hiway3hell: What are you talking about jhin Hiway3hell: I couldn't help you there was 3 and you were low im sorry Hiway3hell: nasus is the one trolling unfortunately Hiway3hell: he says im not a teammate so he wont help me Hiway3hell: and calls me bad but hes 0/2 Hiway3hell: :( Hiway3hell: lol Hiway3hell: Thats okay Hiway3hell: reports don't work unless you do something to get reported for Hiway3hell: I'm sorry nasus you've been the toxic one here not me Hiway3hell: but you know that Hiway3hell: thanks :) good luck to you too Hiway3hell: no please Hiway3hell: we can win guys Hiway3hell: focus Hiway3hell: ggwp

I understand that towards the end of the game I was a bit sarcastic in my remarks, but understand that this is an entire game of frustration and I still feel like it wasn't outright rude or hateful what I said, the Nasus and Hecarim's comments are FAR more disgusting, however I can't view them to post them.

16 Comments

DarkLooN3 votes

Sadly, Riot absolutely LOVES punishing victims of abuse, they want you to take the abuse without saying a word. even if you said nothing wrong, you still get punished for replying to harassment. Just how this company works.

Hiway3hell2 votes

Yeah that definitely seems to be the case here unfortunately. I really don't feel as if I was particularly rude to either of the two, and they were simply vulgar and hateful. But I suppose that's how this game is.

EvilDustMan2 votes

This was the only game provided?

Hiway3hell1 votes

Yes sir, only game provided. Only game i've really got into it with someone as well.

Zezockary2 votes

First of all it only takes one report for a game to be reviewed. Multiple reports foesn't make the system check the game any harder.

Second, the context of the match does not matter. Even if you were going through a tough situation you still made the game worse for the two that weren't involved. You should have just played the game out, not said anything to them and reported them at the end of the game.

Hiway3hell1 votes

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First of all it only takes one report for a game to be reviewed. Multiple reports foesn't make the system check the game any harder.

What is it exactly that they are reviewing for? I was not vulgar, hateful, or abusive to either of them. In fact my only mistake seems to have been taking the bait and continuing to talk back to them. This game was reviewed by their system and my chat log was posted, what particularly in the chat log caused the issue? I'm simply trying to understand WHY I received the disciplinary action when I don't feel I was rude.

Martensitic1 votes

the Nasus and Hecarim's comments are FAR more disgusting

Their misbehaviour doesn't excuse your own.

reports don't work unless you do something to get reported for

I love the irony in this.

Hiway3hell1 votes

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Their misbehaviour doesn't excuse your own.

I love the irony in this.

I don't expect my "behavior" to be excused provided people can tell me what It is that I said so horribly wrong. Assumed the system would only instantly chat restrict in cases of abuse or downright flaming someone. I had this happen to me, not the other way around, and I still don't think I handled it too poorly.

Yeah it is ironic isn't it.

Martensitic1 votes

I don't expect my "behavior" to be excused provided people can tell me what It is that I said so horribly wrong.

My pleasure, here you go, I marked all toxic lines for you:

Hiway3hell: you and this hec are duo huh? Hiway3hell: makes sense why i was camped now Hiway3hell: yuh Hiway3hell: You camp top anything like last game Hiway3hell: and im sure well be fine Hiway3hell: Sorry jhin i called it Hiway3hell: thanks for the help Hiway3hell: buddy Hiway3hell: yeah and you know when you report people item 3751 Hiway3hell: they read chat Hiway3hell: right Hiway3hell: my team mate wouldnt takje top after i called it Hiway3hell: k Hiway3hell: youre actually treying to get me killed item 3751 Hiway3hell: impressive Hiway3hell: report nasus pls item 3751 Hiway3hell: admitted to trying to get me killed basically lol item 3751 Hiway3hell: so go all out on llaoi Hiway3hell: pls report item 3751 Hiway3hell: standing and watching me die item 3751 Hiway3hell: I CALLED top Hiway3hell: nah Hiway3hell: not anymore Hiway3hell: idc if i dont get another cs item 3751 Hiway3hell: all game item 3751 Hiway3hell: im staying top item 3751 Hiway3hell: u and ur butt buddy hec lol item 3751 Hiway3hell: Again with this nasus Hiway3hell: just stands and watches Hiway3hell: you're going to get banned its k item 3751 Hiway3hell: well see Hiway3hell: ? Hiway3hell: is that english? item 3751 Hiway3hell: yeah what for? Hiway3hell: I'd like to know Hiway3hell: That's not a report unfortunately :( item 3751 Hiway3hell: try again Hiway3hell: You saw nasus sit by and watch me die multiple times item 3751 Hiway3hell: so yeah Hiway3hell: :( Hiway3hell: sorry i called top item 3751 Hiway3hell: that means i get top item 3751 Hiway3hell: youve sat by and watched me die lol item 3751 Hiway3hell: multiple times item 3751 Hiway3hell: thx hec Hiway3hell: good gank Hiway3hell: appreciate it Hiway3hell: :( Hiway3hell: I just wish youd quit feeding item 3751 Hiway3hell: I'm not trolling? Hiway3hell: What are you talking about jhin Hiway3hell: I couldn't help you there was 3 and you were low im sorry Hiway3hell: nasus is the one trolling unfortunately item 3751 Hiway3hell: he says im not a teammate so he wont help me item 3751 Hiway3hell: and calls me bad but hes 0/2 item 3751 Hiway3hell: :( Hiway3hell: lol Hiway3hell: Thats okay Hiway3hell: reports don't work unless you do something to get reported for item 3751 Hiway3hell: I'm sorry nasus you've been the toxic one here not me item 3751 Hiway3hell: but you know that Hiway3hell: thanks :) good luck to you too Hiway3hell: no please Hiway3hell: we can win guys Hiway3hell: focus Hiway3hell: ggwp

Multiple times you were report calling, which is regarded as highly toxic behaviour be the majority of the communty. Be glad it was a 25chat ban this time, if you keep this up, it will quickly escalate into 14day suspension and permaban. I suggest you change the way you talk to your teammates.

Assumed the system would only instantly chat restrict in cases of abuse or downright flaming someone.

What do you think report calling is? A friendly chat among friends?

I still don't think I handled it too poorly.

Your opinion in this matter is completely irrelevant. What is punishable is determined by the community.

Hiway3hell1 votes

I still disagree that I was a toxic player here, I still disagree that I deserve a chat restriction for this, and I disagree that calling for a report is "flaming" someone, they deserved to be reported. It feels to me that Riot is intent on punishing anyone who responds to verbal abuse, despite the manner in which the response is given.

However, I appreciate the input.

Are you a Riot employee or just a community member?

Hyperiön1 votes

Do you know how reports work?

1 report in a game is the same as 9.

If they are being meanies and trolling, mute and report. Sure, it gets annoying, but be the bigger person and move on.

The answer to verbal abuse is not more toxicity. A wise lesson to learn when playing league.

Martensitic1 votes

Again, your agreement or disagreement is completely irrelevant for the matter at hand. The community, by their report-behavior, teaches the punishment system (which is based on machine learning algorithms) what is okay, and what isn't.

In other words, the community already decided the behavior you have put on display to be punishable, before you wrote these lines into the chat. The reports from your teammates and probably your opponents just triggered the automated chat analysis and subsequent punishment.

I am a community member, riot employees are specifically marked in the boards, they have a "Riot ..." nametag and their posts appear titled in red.

Baka Red1 votes

Sorry to see yet another person falling to the same trap. Talking back often gets you into trouble, because everyone is responsible for their own behavior.

When you meet negative people like those you describe there is one easy remedy; mute them, don't talk to them or about them, and report them after the match. If they start ping spamming you, you have ping mute to use against them these days.

You got away with chat restriction. Live with it and follow the above guideline from now on and you will do fine.

Kei1431 votes

calling top doesn't mean you are top.

there are no such rules in blind pick

Chermorg1 votes

You were banned for the following:

Harassing teammates for the sole reason that they were perceived to be a duo group. Harassing teammates for the same issue over and over instead of using chat constructively. Continuously discussing reports (either receiving or giving) during the game.

The combination of these things made the game less enjoyable for other players. Furthermore, it likely wasn't the "duo" that reported you, but someone else on your team, or someone on the other team if you were spamming all chat with these comments.

Your chat does not only negatively affect who it is directed at, it affects the other 4 or 9 people in the game. If you are spamming useless, non-constructive comments, you are not utilizing chat effectively, and you are hurting the game for everyone else in it.

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