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I just got permabanned for competitive banter

Litt1monster··1 votes·1,260 views

I got permabanned recently and I just got out of bronze in my first year of playing. I did receive a ban before for being toxic and I fully understood it after I reformed myself. I would just like to know what you guys think on the chat logs that I just got back because personally I truly do not feel that I should get permanently banned for something that others instigated and I didn't even reply or "berate" others. Game 1 Litt1monster: yas v fizz Litt1monster: this'll be fun Litt1monster: nj ez Litt1monster: missed a non moving target Litt1monster: bot Litt1monster: stop feeding Litt1monster: bot fed Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: wow this bot is heavy Litt1monster: defend mf Litt1monster: can we baron? Litt1monster: GG| Litt1monster: report bot inting Litt1monster: no Litt1monster: they are inting Litt1monster: so fed Litt1monster: GG Litt1monster: nahh Litt1monster: yas Litt1monster: ur being carri\ed Litt1monster: Wtf Litt1monster: because bot fed Litt1monster: these are my promos too Litt1monster: GG Litt1monster: im going to report Litt1monster: yas bad xD Litt1monster: 3/11 Litt1monster: lul not to you Litt1monster: your team Litt1monster: i won lane phase Litt1monster: xD Litt1monster: get good Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: GG Litt1monster: trash yasuo Litt1monster: get carried Litt1monster: im sorry for your yas Litt1monster: wasnt even trying in lane and still won xD Litt1monster: yeah Litt1monster: you know what lane phase is? Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: bronze Litt1monster: mindset Litt1monster: act like you never lose Litt1monster: xD Litt1monster: GG Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: lane Litt1monster: worst bot Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: EZ Game 2 Litt1monster: wow Litt1monster: computer took me out Litt1monster: BS Litt1monster: what? Litt1monster: why Litt1monster: tf Litt1monster: im done Litt1monster: yup Litt1monster: then we both lose this game xD Litt1monster: yup Litt1monster: i dont mind Litt1monster: i just said i dont care xD Litt1monster: read? Litt1monster: sure' Litt1monster: better jg wins xD Litt1monster: muted? Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: i thought you didnt care about this game udyr Litt1monster: nahh Litt1monster: im good xD Litt1monster: nahh Litt1monster: udyr annoying Litt1monster: lol udyr never helped mid Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: udyr? Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: he didnt wanna help after 3 ganks xD Litt1monster: what can i do Litt1monster: wasnt trying to xD Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: nahh Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: the scrub is the one that doesnt help Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: nahh Litt1monster: ez you didnt see what he did Litt1monster: mmmm Litt1monster: ok Litt1monster: computer turned off Litt1monster: yeah cause my computer turned off Litt1monster: what can i do? Litt1monster: it did xd Litt1monster: ummm.... Litt1monster: ok Litt1monster: sure man Litt1monster: no a program took me out of the client xD Litt1monster: sure Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: lol sure Litt1monster: yup Litt1monster: how old are you guys? Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: atlleast i have a kill ez Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: 0/2 Litt1monster: team is so toxic Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: my computer froze and now they are mad lul Litt1monster: GG Litt1monster: noipe Litt1monster: GG

35 Comments

zPOOPz14 votes

That's not "competitive banter". That's called "being obnoxious"

Litt1monster1 votes

Does that deserve a permaban? I've seen people do way worse things.

Void Nargacuga8 votes

After a 14 day ban, which you recently came from, as stated in the reform card the next punishment will be a permanent ban.

Litt1monster1 votes

That was 8 months ago

Karunamon6 votes

The time doesn't matter. The message quite clearly said the next punishment you get for any reason will be a perma, and it was.

Litt1monster1 votes

IK but I dont feel that it deserves a perma-ban

Karunamon2 votes

You the player are not perma banned, you're more than welcome to make another account, but the first account is gone.

You were told the rules and what would happen if you broke them again, and it played out exactly as described. I don't want to sound like a dick here, but it isn't on you to agree with the rules, only to follow them.

Litt1monster1 votes

Just disagreeing on what "toxic" really means

ModUlanopo4 votes

That's not the way the "punishment volcano" works. You don't get escalated by being worse and worse. If that were the case, people would settle at a level of persistent toxicity, which would be bad for the community.

You move to the next step by demonstrating an unwillingness to change. That's because most people reform all on their own, regardless of what the punishment is. My only advice is, if your 14-day really was 8 months ago, you may wish to consider putting in a support ticket and asking for a manual review. It's nowhere near a sure thing, but it's worth a shot.

Litt1monster1 votes

Yeah they considered my situation already, I'm receiving another 2-week ban. NOT a Permaban*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]*

ModUlanopo1 votes

Well, that's good.

SciFi Scrivener2 votes

I hope you learned your lesson and stop this level of "competitive banter".

Falkentyne4 votes

You're a toxic and very rude jerk. Who cares that they were inting? You were mean, abusive and hostile and you act like the world owes you its grace. You are entitled and deserve your ban while the int'ers read this thread and laugh at you. Now enjoy your ban and go roll a new account.

Litt1monster2 votes

mmmm...entitled? Who cares if they were inting? Firstly I am entitled to what? I'm Poor,lol. Secondly everyone cares if someone ints in their ranked games. canyou please point out where I was being hostile and abusive? Mean, i'll give you that one. I was mad that they were intentionally feeding which the system does not condone

Umbral Regent3 votes

I truly do not feel that I should get permanently banned for something that others instigated

First of all, it doesn't matter if someone else "instigated" anything - what you say in response is all that matters. You alone are held accountable for your own actions.

Litt1monster: nj ez Litt1monster: missed a non moving target Litt1monster: bot Litt1monster: stop feeding Litt1monster: bot fed Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: wow this bot is heavy

Three lines in on Game 1, and you start with derisive comments about how your bottom lane missed a skillshot, are "feeding", and you called them heavy as though you were the only good player on the team. This already is enough to warrant a punishment, but;

Litt1monster: GG| Litt1monster: report bot inting Litt1monster: no Litt1monster: they are inting

Litt1monster: because bot fed

Litt1monster: im going to report Litt1monster: yas bad xD Litt1monster: 3/11

Litt1monster: i won lane phase Litt1monster: xD Litt1monster: get good Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: GG Litt1monster: trash yasuo Litt1monster: get carried Litt1monster: im sorry for your yas Litt1monster: wasnt even trying in lane and still won xD Litt1monster: yeah Litt1monster: you know what lane phase is? Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: bronze Litt1monster: mindset Litt1monster: act like you never lose Litt1monster: xD Litt1monster: GG Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: lane Litt1monster: worst bot Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: EZ Litt1monster: EZ

You went on to continue with accusatory remarks about your bot lane, started harassing one of the enemy players from what I can assume, started taunting as if you were better than everyone ("wasn't even trying in lane and still won xD"), rank-shamed other players, acted like they didn't know the game, threw in one last unnecessary bite at your bottom lane, and then went on with some "EZ" spam, which in all honesty, is just dickish behavior on its own.

Game 2;

Litt1monster: im done

To claim you're done is to say you're giving up. You're not allowed to give up. Period.

Litt1monster: yup Litt1monster: i dont mind Litt1monster: i just said i dont care xD Litt1monster: read? Litt1monster: sure' Litt1monster: better jg wins xD Litt1monster: muted? Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: i thought you didnt care about this game udyr Litt1monster: nahh Litt1monster: im good xD Litt1monster: nahh Litt1monster: udyr annoying Litt1monster: lol udyr never helped mid

More "I don't care, let's not win" mentality, and you started flaming your Jungler simply because they didn't help you for one reason or another.

Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: the scrub is the one that doesnt help Litt1monster: lol

More needless flame, acting like you're superior to (who I can only assume is) your Jungler...

Litt1monster: how old are you guys? Litt1monster: lol Litt1monster: atlleast i have a kill ez Litt1monster: lul Litt1monster: 0/2 Litt1monster: team is so toxic Litt1monster: lol

How old your teammates are doesn't matter, and all asking that does is prove you want to belittle and deride them more over senseless bullshit. And - while I can at least give that taunting one's own success against - say - an enemy's can be competitive banter (I've done it myself once recently), it has to be mild and infrequent for it to actually be competitive banter. You are not mild, you are not infrequent, and more than that, I'm 90% sure given context clues that you're berating your own team instead of throwing banter or shade at the enemy.

Which is infighting, and is not okay.

And then you go on to call your team toxic. Which is in and of itself toxic. Oh, the irony.

All-in-all, if your most recent punishment was a 14-day suspension, you absolutely deserved being given the boot. You're much too combative and ready to in-fight, calling your teammates feeders for underperforming and - honestly, you typed "lul" and "lol" WAAAAAAY too many times across two games.

This wasn't competitive banter, this was toxicity and unsportsmanlike flame.

Litt1monster1 votes

"EZ" was ezreal and in the beginning of the game they tried to tower dive me at lvl 1 and ez missed 4 times, he replied with "damn youre good at dodging xD"

Litt1monster1 votes

My jg sat in my lane taking my farm, and bot literally gave them 5 kills in 14 min.

Litt1monster1 votes

Berating means scolding angrily, I wasn't mad and like you said I was typing lul a lot, seemed like I didn't care what these trolls were doing. These were my promos and even the ezreal after the game showed sympathy because of my team.

Krigjer5 votes

Berating means scolding angrily

It also means to criticize. In which case you need to learn what constructive criticism is.

Litt1monster1 votes

Key Word: "Angrily"

Tibbalicious3 votes

People like you who literally go in a league game to talk trash, discourage team, and call gg first 10 min into game all deserve a ban. I think its unfair that u got singled out considering plat elo is trash talking hell but it happens. League already gave you a warning, your profile was already hot my guy should of muted people for a couple of months but instead u dont learn. Life is full of lessons if you dont learn from them problems like this will come back around. Best of luck

Litt1monster2 votes

People voting "No" please comment, I would like to know your thoughts on the matter.

Darkeus2 votes

That whole chat log is toxic to be honest. You are not being constructive, you are being obnoxious.

Also, it does not matter what we think is toxic, only thing that matters is what RIOT considers toxic in this region. You were coming off of a 14 day ban. Zero Tolerance is zero tolerance.

Less typing next account. Typing will get you nowhere except another ban on your new account.

Duchess Katarina2 votes

You flaming your teammates isn't going to help them play any better. Stop typing, play the game and focus on what you can do.

Kimuto2 votes

One less toxicity in our community. Good job, Riot! 👍

Litt1monster1 votes

{quoted}

One less toxicity in our community. Good job, Riot! 👍

Do you not read the recent comments? I only got a 2-week ban, RIOT reduced it, so yeah thanks riot*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

Leylania2 votes

{quoted}

Do you not read the recent comments? I only got a 2-week ban, RIOT reduced it, so yeah thanks riot*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

In a few weeks you have your perma anyway, so who cares? And please come back to the boards and cry how unfair it is then, always makes my day a little bit better!

Żügżwäng1 votes

It is toxic but not permaban worthy. Put him to level 0. Remove rewards. Remove ranked. Remove experience gain. Permanent ban should be for serious offenses. You're in the hands of riot customer support now. Should've taken your earlier bans more seriously.

Heroes of the Storm for example will just double your chat ban every time you are punished. I think league would be wise to do the same.

There was no threat, hate speech, etc... Yes he was very negative and obnoxious, but you don't give someone the death penalty for repeatedly committing robbery.

Wuth all that said, I have to say that players like you ruin games with your over the top negativity. It does nothing to help or correct mistakes. Competitive banter would be telling people to stop rushing forward. You take it to the next level and keep saying they're inting and to report them. Inting is not someone getting stomped by a better player. Inting is not someone having an off game or playing something off meta and losing

EndlessSorcerer4 votes

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Heroes of the Storm for example will just double your chat ban every time you are punished. I think league would be wise to do the same.

League of Legends used to have a similar policy.

People just used their allotted chat for greater toxicity and/or began expressing their toxicity through other methods (i.e. passive-aggressive trolling, inting, etc).

Litt1monster1 votes

lol, thanks for the comment but they were inting and I wish I had all the logs from the other players because they were actually a premade who were trolling me and the rest of the team.

Litt1monster1 votes

Thanks for the feeback guys, RIOT is considering giving me a second chance xD*[slayer-jinx-catface]* [slayer-jinx-wink]

Litt1monster1 votes

Lol, thanks to those who voted "yes" y'all truly know the what sympathy is. I wasn't right but I also wasn't horribly wrong and toxic. (Didn't say a single bad word) #ThanksRIOT*[sg-miss-fortune]*

Magical Player1 votes

Good luck, just remember chat is meant to be conductive towards teamwork anything outside that is considered bad If they give you another chance don't waste it, anything can put you over the edge

Litt1monster1 votes

yeah thanks, my dude

Colgate Gator1 votes

You're assuming that everyone wants to hear your "competitive banter", plot twist, they do not.

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