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Why is banning so easy to do?

GetGuud··1 votes·2,134 views

Getting banned by communications or by feeding is so easy. All you have to do is have someone say "Ez" or some other small thing like "wow you suck" and have your 5 man premade team all report him and he'll get banned 8/10 times... I don't know where freedom of speech is in league, but playing on North American servers most likely means that 95% of all players are playing in the US, where the first amendment protects free speech. Hate speech is not "You suck", or even a little worse by adding an f-bomb and saying "gg ez game", or even the occasionally "pussy" or whatever they might say; no matter what they're all reportable and will probably get a ban.

A lot of people have a hard time not typing to team mates when they're 0/4 mid and 0/6 bot and then the 0/4 and 0/6 start saying crap about how bad you are... I just don't see, or get why speech is so silenced in league, and why you have to protect the snowflakes... I mean, everyone needs to relax, swearing is a common thing to come by now in private and public areas, there's no 5 year old playing this game so can someone explain why speech is so limited and why banning happens so frequently to those who hardly say much toxic stuff. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Also can someone please explain what "toxic" chat is to you, and what people need to do in order to stop getting banned for the simplest things or just plain out defending themselves. Thanks.

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Jamaree10 votes

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Getting banned by communications or by feeding is so easy. All you have to do is have someone say "Ez" or some other small thing like "wow you suck" and have your 5 man premade team all report him and he'll get banned 8/10 times.

False.

I don't know where freedom of speech is in league, but playing on North American servers most likely means that 95% of all players are playing in the US, where the first amendment protects free speech.

I love how often use the free speech thing. That isn't how free speech works. That isn't how the first amendment works. Here, let me get you the EXACT quote of what the first amendment says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

You know what that means? It means the GOVERNMENT can't do anything to impede what you want to say about them and THEM only, however, a private business, which this game is, it is a private business, doesn't have to let you say and do whatever you please. If you went into a movie theater and you started shouting throughout the whole movie, said establishment has all the right to kick your ass out.

Looks like I have to pull out the XKCD comic again.

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png

Hate speech is not "You suck", or even a little worse by adding an f-bomb and saying "gg ez game", or even the occasionally "pussy" or whatever they might say; no matter what they're all reportable and will probably get a ban.

You are right, that isn't hate speech, doesn't give you the right to be an asshole.

A lot of people have a hard time not typing to team mates when they're 0/4 mid and 0/6 bot and then the 0/4 and 0/6 start saying crap about how bad you are.

Because everyone feeds you hypocrite, you included, does anyone like having the feeder? No, but what is insulting them going to do?

I just don't see, or get why speech is so silenced in league, and why you have to protect the snowflakes.

Or maybe you are just an asshole?

I mean, everyone needs to relax, swearing is a common thing to come by now in private and public areas

Hence why you don't get in trouble for it, I can say every curse and swear in the book and not see a warning, it is when you start pointing it at people that you get in trouble.

there's no 5 year old playing this game so can someone explain why speech is so limited and why banning happens so frequently to those who hardly say much toxic stuff.

It isn't limited, stop being an asshole?

Also can someone please explain what "toxic" chat is to you, and what people need to do in order to stop getting banned for the simplest things or just plain out defending themselves. Thanks.

Stop flaming your allies, realize that people have bad games and that 99.9% of the players who do poorly in your games aren't doing it on purpose. Realize just how much of a hypocrite you are by flaming by looking back at games where you are the feeder.

Like going 0/8 on Nasus

Or 5/10 on Poppy

mlm olo mlm1 votes

Realize just how much of a hypocrite you are by flaming

doesn't give you the right to be an asshole.

Or maybe you are just an asshole?

It isn't limited, stop being an asshole?

Don't worry, hard concept to grasp. You need to be nice to "assholes" otherwise you are a hypocrite. I know right, being nice to mean people, so hard.

GetGuud1 votes

"Like going 0/8 on nasus" "Or 5/10 on Poppy" Don't leave out assists and check my team mates kdas as well.

For the freedom of speech thing, I get privately owned businesses have the right to ban people. But Facebook just got in trouble for silencing people and multiple restaurants went out of business due to them banning gays and muslims.

Seems to me you flame in game as well, but thanks.

Jamaree1 votes

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"Like going 0/8 on nasus" "Or 5/10 on Poppy" Don't leave out assists and check my team mates kdas as well.

So you are going to sit here and lie to me and say there hasn't been a single game in your entire LoL career where you went 0/X/0, I don't believe that in the slightest and upon looking at the Yasou and Pantheon who went that, we can see that they weren't intentionally feeding because their next few games they had scores that fluctuated. Where the Yasou had games where he went 7/3/9 with Rengar, and the Pantheon having games where he went 16/10 with Pantheon.

Being bad and having bad games isn't reportable.

For the freedom of speech thing, I get privately owned businesses have the right to ban people. But Facebook just got in trouble for silencing people

False again, Facebook got in trouble for being part of the Russian presidential scandal, not the fact they were silencing people, that was just a subplot of the problem.

and multiple restaurants went out of business due to them banning gays and muslims.

I'm not even sure what this has to do with your original statement.

Seems to me you flame in game as well, but thanks.

I don't, hence why out of my multiple years playing this game I have never been punished.

GetGuud1 votes

I've never gone 0/x/0

If you see my roll i probably went nasus support with a duo or poppy support with a duo. If you see my actual games that I try to win I go 5/5/27 for example. I like to take champs and test my skill in different lanes with them, most times I do really well but once in a while I feed but i man up about it and tell my team it was my bad.

I'd like to note that when your team goes 0/6 or 0/5 and then their opponet snowballs and starts tower diving and one hitting you when you're 1/0; so you end up losing the game with a 3/12/7 kda, that's kind of bullshit and I wouldn't even call that feeding.

I listened to the whole congress meeting with mark zuckerburg, most of it was how he was banning a group of people and hiding their posts.

"multiple restaurants went out of business due to them banning gays and muslims." that was to show you how the government told the privately owned businesses that they can't ban gays and muslims... even though they were privately owned buisnesses, they still couldn't ban gays and muslims or whoever else.

Jamaree2 votes

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I've never gone 0/x/0

You are a liar.

I'd like to note that when your team goes 0/6 or 0/5 and then their opponet snowballs and starts tower diving and one hitting you when you're 1/0; so you end up losing the game with a 3/12/7 kda, that's kind of bullshit and I wouldn't even call that feeding.

So there hasn't ever been a single time ever where it was your fault for the loss, where you just fed, where your feeding was the cause of your team's loss?

I listened to the whole congress meeting with mark zuckerburg, most of it was how he was banning a group of people and hiding their posts.

Source?

"multiple restaurants went out of business due to them banning gays and muslims." that was to show you how the government told the privately owned businesses that they can't ban gays and muslims... even though they were privately owned buisnesses, they still couldn't ban gays and muslims or whoever else.

They were closed down because the people rallied to close them down after showcasing that they were being homophobic or racist, it is always smaller sized business as well. Side note, Chick Fil A is very open about their anti homosexuality and they are a ok still.

AeroWaffle7 votes

where the first amendment protects free speech.

Do you happen to know what first amendment actually applies to? Because it certainly doesn't apply here. It prevents the government from making laws prohibiting free speech.

Riot is free to ban your account for any reason they deem necessary. Which includes chat behavior reasons.

Chalze3 votes

Gotta add some law into my case to make it look more valid booiiii

GetGuud1 votes

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Zombiemaster7 votes

All you have to do is have someone say "Ez" or some other small thing like "wow you suck" and have your 5 man premade team all report him and he'll get banned 8/10 times

Okay, that's not quite how reporting works. Multiple reports from the same match do not increase the likelihood of a player being punished. Reports alone only trigger a review of the game, and it only takes one report to do this. Any reports after the first do not do anything extra. They don't increase the likelihood that the player's behavior is reviewed or even that the player is punished. What determines if a player is punished is their behavior, not the number of reports they receive.

As for saying minor things like "ez" or "wow you suck," they are somewhat rude and unsportsmanlike. With that said, though, if this is literally the only negative thing you say in any of your game, it's not going to get you punished, unless of course your spamming it throughout the entire game. They can definitely help contribute to a punishment, but alone they won't really do anything.

I don't know where freedom of speech is in league, but playing on North American servers most likely means that 95% of all players are playing in the US, where the first amendment protects free speech.

I don't think you know what Freedom of Speech actually entails. You're correct in that the First Amendment does protect U.S. citizens' Freedom of Speech, but you're forgetting one very important detail: it only protects us from Congress, aka the government. The First Amendment says that Congress shall make no law that restricts or Freedom of Speech (and even then it has limitations), but Riot Games is not Congress, they are a privately owned business. This means they have every right to punish people for what is said on their own private servers. This is the same as malls or restaurants kicking you out if you start verbally harassment other customers.

I Like Teemo2 votes

its an automated robot that bans you btw... and appealing it is the only way to get a real human being to look at it

GetGuud1 votes

Oh okay thanks!

Eternal Torment2 votes

Reading this hurt my concious sense of humanity. AKA i feel ashamed to be human over this.

That aside, let me tell you some stuff the others haven't answered you so far:

Saying stuff like "You suck" Counts as toxic communication because you are doing NO feedback at all, are sharing NO positive reviews, NO tips or advises and are in NO SHAPE OR FORM BEING HELPFUL. All you do is belittle/Shame someone for doing poorly with an insult. There is no logically possible way to tell someone "You suck" WITHOUT being insulting.

Saying EZ riot put as toxic actions because it has for quite a while now not been used to engage sportsmanlike banter but to mock and belittle your opponents by shaming them as so bad that you had an "easy time beating them". It is a provocative term that has lost any of it's positive purposes.

3rd It isn't about people being snowflakes, it is about you being a selfrighteous bullshitter who thinks just because it is okay to you it HAS to be okay to everyone else, screw anyone who is against you. That, my friend, is egomania. Very sick habit, get rid of it while it is outside of affecting your reallife.

Swearing is okay, Insulting is not. I could use fuck, shit, crap, ass and godforsaken all i wanted, so long as i don't direct it to SOMEONE it is totally okay. And Someone means not just specific people, it means ANY HUMANS.

There might not be 5 year olds, but there are players who reach below the 10 year mark playing league of legends. How that is known is because many of their parents play it too, and sometimes were the ones to introduce their kid to it. Yes, not a smart move, but to each their own. who are we to judge.

Bans happen to anyone who deserves it. Inters, Toxic people, cheaters, scam phishers etc. Riot has their rules, guidelines and terms of use which are all to be followed. if you go against them, you are indiscriminatedly punished.

Last but not least. An argument takes two to happen, who both engage it. There is no such thing like verbal self defence. If you argue back, you don't counter toxicity, you don't fight it, you promote it. Why do you think Tiltbaiting is such a popular thing in lol?

This is one answer to every point you made that isn't the freedom of speech thing you caught up wrong.

mlm olo mlm1 votes

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Eternal Torment2 votes

That's the irony of counter-logic. What is offensive and what is not is known, being a smartass for an argument won't change it for anyone. So yes, If there is something that offends one person by an official and/or globally recognized means, it is offensive to anyone else. With being tough about it, the opposite applies. Just because you are okay with things does not mean everyone has to be.

the difference between these two is that one is about respect, and the other one is about egotistic attitudes.

mlm olo mlm1 votes

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Eternal Torment1 votes

Try explaining it to riot. if anything you said was true the OP wouldn't be anyhow punished, let alone complain about it. Same goes to literally half of this entire sub-board.

I have an odd feeling you are this OP's smurf trying to play out as multiple people who agree to his point. wouldn't be the first time someone does that

mlm olo mlm1 votes

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Eternal Torment1 votes

No, I am simply being truthful. Riot does what they want that is within an acceptable range. They have Rules to abide which are based on global common sense. Whether or not you accept that is up to you. I've told you how things work, if you feel better denying them and trying to slither SOME excuse to make your version work, then thats on you. to each their own, but fact is everyone here knows what not to do, and everyone here knows to only pay attention to their own influence and injury.

mlm olo mlm1 votes

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Eternal Torment1 votes

This response confirms that you twist and turn anything to argue on.

mlm olo mlm1 votes

Have a nice day.

GetGuud1 votes

I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about everyone who has gotten banned in general.

GetGuud1 votes

I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about everyone who has gotten banned in general. Lol that's funny. What did MLM OLO MLM say lmao cause that was not me and he deleted his comment

Eternal Torment1 votes

He deleted every one of his comments. he got debunked and decided to run for it before too many saw :/

GetGuud1 votes

LOL thats funny, I appreciate your time. thanks

GetGuud1 votes

So you're saying if someone says "he" in game and I don't like that word because I dont like males (along with the other people who are anti-males) then it's offensive to anyone else?

Eternal Torment1 votes

"Officially and/or globally recognized".

Topics like the lgbtq stuff you mention are blacklisted entirely under political discussions (Or at least so it was claimed to be by Ulanopo who was quoted by an user a few days ago on the boards) precisely because of specific arguments like the one you put as an explanation.

GetGuud1 votes

Oh okay thanks! I read everything you had to say. Very helpful. Only thing I would have to say is the snowflakes part, people say stuff to me all the time and I don't get offended by them, I don't even report them because at the end of the day, it didn't even bother me. What is tiltbaiting by the way? Never heard of that

Eternal Torment1 votes

The snowflake part should be specially paid attention to. it doesn't matter if you can tank that toxicity, you should report it because no one else is you and you are no one else. while you walk away unharmed others could get a very frustrating experience from the toxicity.

and Tiltbaiting literally answers it. you bait people into tilting so you can get them reported and punished.

GetGuud1 votes

Okay, I'll keep that in mind for sure. Is there a way I can disable chat as a whole? Like get rid of the whole textbox in the bottom corner?

Oh ok, I've never heard the term tiltbaiting before, I thought that was what it meant but I wanted to make sure.

Again, thanks for your time, i really appreciate it, just trying to get better that's all.

Eternal Torment1 votes

Not that I know of. But you can change chat size and transpiracy. I never tested it but put transpiracy to max to blend it out? Idk.

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