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The Anti Magwe··1 votes·3,983 views

So I got a chat restriction apparently and have no idea how long it is. I mean when a teammate is being toxic and you just tell him hes being am asshole I dont think that's chat ban worthy so I jumped into another game. When I logged in to the rift I got told I had this chat restriction and have no idea how long it is since I didnt get the pop up notification.

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Hotarµ3 votes

If it was your first punishment, it would be for 10 games.

Standard punishments for toxicity follow the ladder of: 10 game chat restriction > 25 game chat restriction > 14 day gameplay ban > permanent ban.

I mean when a teammate is being toxic and you just tell him hes being am asshole I dont think that's chat ban worthy so I jumped into another game

While it's frustrating to have toxic teammates, getting mad at them does nothing but add fuel to the fire. Just mute them and focus on the game, don't let it get to you.

In any case it's only a 10 game chat restriction, your account is still in near perfect standing so you don't have much to worry about. Just try not to let it happen again and you'll be fine.

The Anti Magwe1 votes

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If it was your first punishment, it would be for 10 games.

Standard punishments for toxicity follow the ladder of: 10 game chat restriction > 25 game chat restriction > 14 day gameplay ban > permanent ban.

While it's frustrating to have toxic teammates, getting mad at them does nothing but add fuel to the fire. Just mute them and focus on the game, don't let it get to you.

In any case it's only a 10 game chat restriction, your account is still in near perfect standing so you don't have much to worry about. Just try not to let it happen again and you'll be fine.

Is there any way to fight it? I know it's not a big deal but when I look at the charts it seems like nonsense. My mid let his laner roam constantly and didnt punish. We got 4 manned bot and tower dove and when I told mid he cant just let them have plays like that for free they started flaming. The ONLY even remotely toxic thing I said was after game lobby I told him he was bad. Other than that I just told him and jungle what they should do. I've had players in every lobby since be a whole lot more toxic and not having a chat restriction. Seems kind of asinine.

zPOOPz1 votes

Is there any way to fight it?

If you want to contest your punishment, you'll have to submit a support ticket or try live chat at https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us. If you want to discuss whether you should be punished or if the system made a mistaken, then you will have to post your FULL, UNEDITED, chat logs of ALL games shown on your report card.

I've had players in every lobby since be a whole lot more toxic and not having a chat restriction. Seems kind of asinine.

It is entirely not possible at all to tell if someone is chat restricted (much like no one can tell that you are chat restricted right now) so this statement is moot. If you reported those players, then their chat will be reviewed just like yours was. The so called instant feedback notification is very unreliable and not given to you for everyone who you reported and got punished. If there are that many people more toxic in your lobby and you reported all of them, then you cannot tell who got punished and who didn't based on the notification anyhow.

The Anti Magwe1 votes

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If you want to contest your punishment, you'll have to submit a support ticket or try live chat at https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us. If you want to discuss whether you should be punished or if the system made a mistaken, then you will have to post your FULL, UNEDITED, chat logs of ALL games shown on your report card.

It is entirely not possible at all to tell if someone is chat restricted (much like no one can tell that you are chat restricted right now) so this statement is moot. If you reported those players, then their chat will be reviewed just like yours was. The so called instant feedback notification is very unreliable and not given to you for everyone who you reported and got punished. If there are that many people more toxic in your lobby and you reported all of them, then you cannot tell who got punished and who didn't based on the notification anyhow.

It is entirely possible to know if someone isn't chat restricted. I.e. enemy soraka In my last game all chat flaming team. You cant do that if you're restricted. Another example. I had a poor game and my velkoz was spamming toxic messages in chat. You're only allowed 5 so I know they're not if they can type 10+ messages in chat back to back. That's what I mean. Anywho thank you for the info on contesting the restriction. I'm just a little upset that I can get hit for using an insult a 2 year old would "lol you're bad" but yet I'm getting called autistic if I make a bad play or getting told to remove the game from my computer because I played poorly one game.

zPOOPz1 votes

When I said it is not possible to tell if someone is chat restricted, I meant it is not possible for you to tell if someone you reported got chat restricted. You can only report someone after game. Unless you continued to play with that person again and somehow deduced he is chat restricted and not just doesn't want to chat that game, you cannot stalk someone account to find out if someone is CR.

Rito punishes based on frequency and severity. Severity will net you 14-day on the first punishment so when we're talking about Chat Restriction, severity doesn't apply. You cannot be punished based 1 or 2 or 3 games of mild toxicity. You'd have to establish a pattern of negative behavior (that may not necessary be shown on your punishment card) to even get to CR. Whatever games/chat logs shown on your punishment card are not the only games you were mildly negative in. On that same note, everyone has their own account toxicity history. You do not know if the welkoz or whoever else you met being toxic in your games are also toxic in other games they play. So to complain that one instance/game of meeting them being toxic and they were not punished is kind of misinformed on how the system works. If their account is clean and they only had that one mildly toxic game, they will be forgiven by the system. You do not know the account toxicity history of anyone you play with.

The Anti Magwe1 votes

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When I said it is not possible to tell if someone is chat restricted, I meant it is not possible for you to tell if someone you reported got chat restricted. You can only report someone after game. Unless you continued to play with that person again and somehow deduced he is chat restricted and not just doesn't want to chat that game, you cannot stalk someone account to find out if someone is CR.

Rito punishes based on frequency and severity. Severity will net you 14-day on the first punishment so when we're talking about Chat Restriction, severity doesn't apply. You cannot be punished based 1 or 2 or 3 games of mild toxicity. You'd have to establish a pattern of negative behavior (that may not necessary be shown on your punishment card) to even get to CR. Whatever games/chat logs shown on your punishment card are not the only games you were mildly negative in. On that same note, everyone has their own account toxicity history. You do not know if the welkoz or whoever else you met being toxic in your games are also toxic in other games they play. So to complain that one instance/game of meeting them being toxic and they were not punished is kind of misinformed on how the system works. If their account is clean and they only had that one mildly toxic game, they will be forgiven by the system. You do not know the account toxicity history of anyone you play with.

Then here's a question. I thought honor level reflects toxicity? So if I literally got honor level 3 the game before than how does one game of "mild toxicity " result in a restriction? Also thank you for informing me on this. I had one chat restriction 2 or 3 years ago but that one was well deserved so I didnt care to find out how it works. I'm just curious if I'm getting promoted on honor levels and it said 9 out of 13 honors were from teammates loving playing alongside you then how do I get negatively marked that quickly?

zPOOPz1 votes

It is entirely possible to both be honored and reported in the same game.

For example, to some people, winning is very important and the person carrying the game for them is the vip. As long as they win, they don't really care if the person with 20/1/3 kda is being a dick to the team while taking down the enemy towers and nexus. They will honor that person for carrying the team. In that same game, his other teammates or enemies may not appreciate that 20/1/3 person being a dick to them or someone else. To them, playing a pleasant game is more important than winning and losing. They will report that person after game even if he's the sole reason the team won that game. In that case, you can both be progression in honor (albeit drastically slower due to being validly reported) and have an increase in your account toxicity due to being validly reported in the same game.

I'll give you another example. If you make sexist or crude offensive jokes in your games, some teammates/enemies may find you funny and love your jokes. They will honor you. Some teammates/enemies may find your sexist jokes offensive. They will report you. You will again progress in honor (albeit drastically slower due to the report) as well as having an increase in your account toxicity history due to the report in the same game. Remember that there are 9 other people playing in the same game as you. Just because you were honored 3x or 4x that game does not mean you don't also get reported 6x or 5x in the very same game.

I guess this is something that many people failed to realize. Honor is gained passively. Even if you never once in the entire season get honored by your teammates, you still do gain honored purely because you are playing games or you honored someone and will progress up honor level, albeit much slower than you would if you do get honored. Being honored by your own teammates is not the only way to go up a level. As I've pointed out above, you can be both honored and reported in the same game so having honor 3, 4, 5 does not mean your account toxicity history is not close to being punished.

Does this somewhat answer your question?

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