Boards›Player Behavior

Being banned for Toxicity

Tripple Team Me··3 votes·798 views

What is the point in Riot making a mute button if you can just get reported and then banned? I recently got a 2 week ban for being toxic. Yes, for anyone already thinking "There you go you got banned for being toxic" that isn't really a fair statement. Being toxic is really all up to how someone percieves it. For instance, people who cuss a lot generally get reported, but what if that's just how they talk? It's extremely unfair to be reported and punished just like that. Riot puts in a mute button so people can simply silence that person and move on. Instead of one person taking two seconds out of their game to mute another, they can take two seconds out of their day after the game to report and have that person punished. If someone is reported for toxicity there should be more lenience since there is a way for the player to simply mute that person. If you have any thoughts or a counter argument please state them I'd love to be enlightened!

10 Comments

Sarutobi2 votes

Muting stops the problem for that particular game, reporting makes it so that person doesnt affect future games with other people. The point is Riot wants everyone to be treated fairly. If this is how you talk despite the fact that it is breaking the rules you have to basically find another game. If you dont want to get ban dont break the rules. Or play with people who you know wont report you!

Warlord Scrap1 votes

cursing isnt breaking the rules according to riot unless its directed at a person

BladeSteel2 votes

And yet sarutobi didn't say anything about cursing...did he...

Warlord Scrap1 votes

his response refers to how the op says he curses thats how he talks

BladeSteel2 votes

" If this is how you talk despite the fact that it is breaking the rules you have to basically find another game." is what he said. nowhere in there does it mention cursing and that cursing is breaking the rules. He says if the way you speak to others breaks the rules and you don't want to change then find a different game. Nowhere does it say "you curse so you break the rules" The op never said that he curses. he said "for instance" meaning for example. he didn't say that he did it. And if he did, you don't get banned just for cursing. show me one chat log from someone who just cursed and didn't insult his teammates. That is right you can't, meaning the op wasn't banned for cursing he was banned for something else.

Tripple Team Me1 votes

I understand. The cursing was directed at a teammate. I guess in other terms i was just complaining about how sensitive others are.

Magical Player2 votes

Cussing isnt a problem on NA servers You can say fuck, damn, shit, etc it becomes a problem when you direct it at another user example "fuck you, you trash ass, adc I wish you'd stop playing this game, you waste of space go die in a hole" Now the cursing(among other things) is a problem

But saying Fuck, I got gibbed is fine. I've not been punished for similar phrases(haven't used that one in awhile)

Referring to leniency In general a user is given many chances to reform 2 different Chat restrictions a 14 day ban then a perma ban 3 second chances to prove you're a good person(or at least an asshole)

Summoners code, really should read it

astralwit1 votes

Yeah, it's mob rule. Pretty arbitrary and all about how the other players feel. Even complaining about team comp. can get you punished. It doesn't matter what's right or wrong. This isn't about fairness. It's about what people feel and only approved opinions are allowed regardless of what's correct (even if you are keeping the discussion purely about the game and not resorting to personal insults).

In the same vein, most people would have been offended if a person of color used the same bathroom 75 years ago in the US. Does that make those people right just because they were in the majority? Obviously it was a different social context so it's a bit unfair to denounce them for being bigots or racists retroactively but the point is that consensus and feelings don't mean much in the end when it comes to ethics or morality. Riot isn't acting based on what's right and you have no right to see the chat in context (even anonymously so it can be understood what the intention is) or get a hearing of any sort. They are acting on what makes business sense. Just like during segregation it made business sense to bar blacks from certain restaurants, Riot knows that allowing certain opinions an equal chance to exist makes the majority of their customers mad. Thus, negative opinions, even if expressed respectfully and well-supported, do not have an equal chance to exist without punishment. You will never be chastised for saying "let's go team!" in a nearly unwinnable game but if you say "our comp. has no late game threat and we are down far too much to come back", you may find some sensitive individuals reporting you for negative attitude because to them, perception overpowers reality and logic.

Magical Player1 votes

Can I point out that the chat logs you posted in your thread appear edited

BestTwitchUS1 votes

If you get banned and you play a lot of games without being toxic, does the threat of getting banned for longer go down or stay the same? please answer because i'm actually worried.Amumu

More from Player Behavior

The indefinite banning of Tyler1
Player Behavior4,799 comments
2,942
votes
14 day ban because playing Nunu Support with Smite is "stealing other people's roles"...?
Player Behavior1,525 comments
1,086
votes
Riot should add monthly status cards
Player Behavior241 comments
843
votes
Reminder that we haven't gotten our Summoner report cards yet :/
Player Behavior145 comments
619
votes
I'm not "triggered" by you throwing insults.
Player Behavior361 comments
548
votes
Black Alistar, King Rammus!!!!
Player Behavior462 comments
503
votes