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I am just dont understand Bronze logic.

xXx28·5/12/2017, 2:12:18 PM·1 votes·765 views

Played the game. And i just cant understand and dont understand how to tell my team objectives over kills , cs etc. I am also a bad player btw not that good . Sometimes i wasted my summoners ,cc to save my team mate and ask them to fall back in critical situation but they go in instead and i got caught and dead by enemy assassins/mage/fighter .

I also avoiding teamfight when we were underlevel or enemy got more kills & objectives than us. I do recommend to stick ,watch back of each other or somehow split push when the right time.

They rage at me because i didnt follow up the teamfight as an adc. Yes i do admit that. Because enemy was fed,got their items(super tanky sustain/bursty ap/heavy damage) and we are underlevel. At some point ,we still can contest objectives and pokes the enemy clear the minions and dont let em push.

Another situation is when enemy going baron and 2 of our inhibitor down,our jungle was full with enemy wards and enemy minion was pushing. what will you guys do? for me i will defend and just clear the minion waves. try to defend as we can and avoid death and wait for an opening or mistake from the enemy and wait their Baron gone. Somehow my experience here majority of the team i met love to try to steal Baron. I know it was a good try but it was risky. They love to flash to Baron pit and die & fail steal. Then rage the team for not following up and start to throw the game.

I always look at the enemy items and their cs always,their k/d/a and what they capable during teamfights. Another mistake by me here is lack of ward. I do ward using the 2 totem. and i always see enemy junglers movement and mid.Sometimes i can see enemy jungle going top or mid and i did type 'ww otw top' or 'ww otw mid' , 'care mid' ,'care top'. I try to help but still got ganked. I believe all my team mate want to win but the throw is real.

Also there is time where we are winning but team doesnt want to end the game as soon as possible.Potential late game the enemy can make a come back. This was always true, and when that things happen all trying to start the blame game. Unfocused , got caught, dead, being pressured and angry more. They said they win but it was losing. They want to get S grade from 'kills over objectives' for the champion level masteries for collection and display.

I just dont know what to say anymore. yeah i know im bad .maybe u seen my profile and it is sucks . the k/d/a sucks. I did try though to avoid death but somehow those thing was unavoidable yeah i still got caught. :/

And HI. Thanks for reading,im not saying im blaming my team. I just want to discuss from people in hear and see different opinions,tips and any advice. just now got demoted to B IV[slayer-jinx-catface] :D

11 Comments

Kei1435/12/2017, 3:38:25 PM2 votes

You can still do dmg from afar as a marksman, don't have to pull out at 50% health and , can still be doing dmg at 10% health. Just need to position well, kite, and pay attention to skills that can that can jump on you.

Worst thing you can do is to run, cos you don't do dmg when you run. learn to kite / orb walk, it'll do wonders.

GiantEnemyShaco5/12/2017, 3:56:18 PM2 votes

As an ADC, teamfights are really where you want to be. It doesn't matter how powerful the enemy team is. Your job is to attack the enemy while remaining safe. If you're really trying to carry, then 1) you need to play things that don't rely on the team to be successful (i.e. ADC) and 2) you need to play something completely brainless (Annie, Jax, Jayce, etc)

Looking at your op.gg, you're not in bronze 4 because of your team. You're in bronze 4 because of you. I know FIRST HAND the players you're playing against. My main is Gold and this account I tanked the MMR on it so I could one trick Shaco in Bronze 4. I literally play with the same players as you on this account.

That's not to be mean, that's just what the "bronze mentality" is. Bronze mentality is the refusal to understand what's wrong with your gameplay, but don't feel bad about it. There are DIAMOND players with a Bronze mentality who only got that high because they have really abusive lane mechanics. (ex. Hashinshin)

Now, getting out of bronze is super easy when you know what to do and really, you just have to be acceptable at ONE thing to get out:

CS

Don't worry about harassing in lane, don't bother with trying to trade minions and autos and all of that shit. That's for silvers to worry about. No. Just focus solely on getting as much CS as possible while remaining safe. Play champs who farm really well, such as MF, if you really want to stick with ADC.

If you can consistently get 70+ CS by 10 minutes, then you'll automatically be stronger than your bronze lane opponent, I promise. You don't have to worry about getting kills in lane, don't even bother attacking unless 1) they're literally walking around like potatos and it's 100% free harass or 2) your jungler is ganking for you. And on the point of 1, NEVER give up CS for damage. You literally only lose. Unless you get a kill, there's no trade off.

That's is only a rule for Bronze, not applicable to people who know how to play the game. Yes, in some cases, damage is more effective than CS, since better players both know how to trade and understand what it means to "set up" for a kill (i.e., get the opponent's HP down past a certain threshold where they still feel comfortable laning without realizing that you can all-in them for a kill). You, however, don't know what those thresholds are and shouldn't fuck with them. Yes, you will give up kills, but you'll also be a consistently stronger player, even if you end up getting out traded in a few games.

Play Champs with Hard CC

Hard CC is busted as hell in Bronze and Silver. People build full damage, zero defensives, actively LOOK for places to burn their flash (Seriously, it's like Bronze players have a flash allergy where they have to get rid of it as fast as possible. What the fuck.) and have absolutely no clue what a QSS is. This means that hard CC, locking down someone, is literally signing their death certificate.

If you play someone like Ashe, DO NOT try for the cross-map snipes, you just waste your ulti. What you should do is when you're all sitting in mid lane 5v5, waiting for one side to engage, YOU should be the one to start it off. Arrow someone right in the mouth and watch as your entire team collapses on them.

One Trick

If you don't know shit about the game as a whole, the next best thing is the know shit about one particular part of the whole. Basically, in Bronze, it doesn't matter whether one matchup "counters" another, all that really matters is that you have more games on your champion than they do, and you're more comfortable with them.

This does two things. First of all, it gets your super comfortable with that champion. When you play 50 straight games of one champion, you begin to understand things about them and their limitations. You'll have a good grasp on their auto attack animation and how fast or slow they attack at the beginning levels. You'll have a better understanding of their cool downs and when you may be vulnerable. You'll know the animation delays and have a better understanding of when is most efficient to use your cooldowns.

One tricking a champion ALSO gets you familiar with different lane matchups. You may not intrinsically know who are your counters, but after 100 games, you'll have a pretty good idea about what champions give you the most trouble in lane and in what matchups to play carefully, even if you don't understand fully what "playing defensively" is.

One Tricking does not mean that you have to stay with 1 champ forever, all it means is to spam a champion until you feel super comfortable with them and know their kits inside and out. It's the same method that pros use to get familiar with a champ. You think Faker just picks up Ryze every now and again? Hell no. I guarantee he plays at least 2 dozen games of him alone a week in the off season and when we're talking LCS, he probably plays 50+ games of every meta champion before hand.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo5/12/2017, 2:33:03 PM1 votes

just improve on what you can control which is yourself

grug5/12/2017, 2:40:25 PM1 votes

bronze is the solo man's show.