Suspended for intentional feeding

Kazuga·Aug 1, 2016·24 votes·2,877 views

So, yesterday i got suspended for a duration of 14 days for intentional feeding. the thing is I really just had BAD games and didnt intentionally fed. I have never intetionally fed and always will, thank you.

59 Comments

1 800 XANAXAug 1, 201613 votes

Checking your average KDA ratio, it is apparent you do play well despite the deaths. However, you seem to play a lot of Yasuo. Yasuo is a feast or famine champion, meaning you either do extremely well (Your 24 / 7 / 3) or you do extremely poorly (Your 3 / 13 / 2).

Send in a support ticket and maybe a rioter (not a bot) will take a look.

KazugaAug 1, 20161 votes

thanks, but I have alrady went and look for a support ticket and none of the choices fit my situation....

1 800 XANAXAug 1, 20161 votes

In my experience,

Request Type: I have a question about League of Legends/Riot Games. Subject: Ban Category: Account > Management

Then you enter your entire predicament. Usually they'll tell you a bit more as to why you're banned, but there is an off chance someone will actually look at your match history.

GULAG 4 UAug 1, 20161 votes

Well 14/14 (where you wreck and feed on same time) is possible on feast or famine champs too >.>.

KieferrAug 1, 20167 votes

100% you deserve to be banned. Whether it was intentional or not, your style of gameplay is a complete detriment to your team, and you place absolutely no regard for consequences of your actions. I only hope riot continues to ban unskilled players that play this recklessly more frequently in order to improve the quality of our matches.

GaleWinUnleashedAug 1, 20166 votes

Literally everyone was bad at some point. Gotta learn somehow.

https://i.imgur.com/1HvNiEO.png?noredirect

Warlord ZudaneAug 1, 20166 votes

This is well beyond bad games. They are diving into death traps, engaging 2+ champs at once while low health. That's stupid - if you are going to die don't run it, it's simple.

When you have a bad game it's one thing. But to consistently run into spots where you are going to die... yea, that's not just a bad game, it's not trying to stay alive - which really is feeding.

Big Shaq RusoAug 1, 20168 votes

Nope he doesn't deserve to be banned. There is a difference between int feeding and having a bad game. By your logic everyone should be banned because they have had a bad game. And don;t even pretend you never had a bad game or trolled in your life. I see those ziggs and cassiopea jungle in your match history so yeah.... the whole point is: having a bad game =/= int feeding.

Warlord ZudaneAug 1, 20165 votes

http://www.replay.gg/search/na/bigboche#

Watch his games. He stays constantly at low health and even engages 1 vs 2 while low health. There's a serious amount of times that he should not have stayed to fight, or should not have engaged. Sometimes is one thing, but when you have 10% health Riven you shouldn't be trying to take on Lux and Leona at full health.

Keiferr isn't too far off really. He plays so incredibly risky that it is borderline intentional feeding.

Looking at another game... Bot lane had a 2 on 3 going, Lee Sin died, Jinx was running back to tower and he ran (as Yas) from mid to bot lane and jumped into a 1 on 3, Jinx was in no range to engage, though she did try to help. That is more than a bad game, it's not caring about consequences and is pretty much intentionally dying by running into a death trap.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 1, 20166 votes

so basically he is a bad player, making bad decisions? its annoying to play with and make it impossible to win sometimes. and that alone could create a toxic environment with all the mature well adjusted individuals that are on league. but does that constitute intentional feeding? does that constitute a ban? remember there are elos, ranks, mmr that we all have. and we play with others of similar skill level. so maybe he just isnt a good player? maybe he is trying to play a high skill level champ Yasuo when he is a bronze 5 mmr. im not justifying toxic behavior, but not everything is black and white, not everything is intentional feed or just a bad player.

Warlord ZudaneAug 1, 20164 votes

http://www.lol-mmr.com/profilev2.php?summoner=bigboche&region=na

Silver 1. But even so, yea it's annoying to play with but what point does "annoying to play with" become "intentionally making a bad game for people"? And what do you do once you reach that point? You're right, it's not black and white - but if you really watch he is NOT TRYING to stay alive. If you aren't trying to stay alive you are allowing yourself to die a lot. If you are allowing yourself to die a lot then you are allowing the enemy to get a ton of kills. That's what we call feeding. This is semi-intentional feeding I would say which is a definite gray area.

Either way I would definitely put his actions into the category that it could very well be considered intentional feeding.

Big Shaq RusoAug 2, 20161 votes

Yeah that is indeed annoying and I hate it when it happens in my games but still, maybe the dude is just learning. I mean being bad =/= feeding on purpose.

warpenguin555Aug 1, 20162 votes

what a stupid thing to post

KieferrAug 2, 20164 votes

Almost as stupid as averaging 15 deaths a game and asking "wtf rito, i'm actually trying to win"

KVbqbFsC8eAug 1, 20167 votes

It should be punishable in ranked regardless of whether it was intentional or not.

ZhireAug 1, 20163 votes

but that wouldn't be fair. what if the enemy team was a premade and just outright plays better than the said feeder?

KVbqbFsC8eAug 1, 20165 votes

Then they would need to stop feeding. Play safer. For example, not die an average of 11 times each game. Thats completely unacceptable.

TrulyBlandAug 1, 20163 votes

By your standards. And by somebody elses' standards the way you play might be "completely unacceptable".

But hey, here's an idea: What if we had this system that uses this number... let's call it, Matchmaking Rating, and matches people with similar skill? That would allow us to "punish" bad players by matching them with bad players, while still allowing them to play the game. Genius, idea, isn't it? Riot should work on something like that.

KVbqbFsC8eAug 1, 20161 votes

Would likely work if we had some way to accurately judge players, you know, maybe having the way THEY played have some sort of impact, rather than if their team won/lost.

TrulyBlandAug 1, 20162 votes

Oh, so the way people play has no impact on whether their team wins? Thanks for making such simplified arguments, they're way easier to dismantle.

If you want to know why looking at wins only works, I recommend you should take a look at things like the law of big numbers and the Elo system. If you want to know why Riot doesn't implement an individual per-game rating, just search something like "individual performance" on the boards. The arguments have been repeated often enough by now, honestly.

KVbqbFsC8eAug 1, 20161 votes

The Elo system was designed for Chess, a 1v1 game. It doesn't accurately rate players in 5v5.

TrulyBlandAug 1, 20162 votes

You might as well say "It's designed for chess, so obviously it cannot work for any game that is not chess". It was designed for one thing, that doesn't mean it cannot work for other things as well. This argument is the equivalent of trying to prove the earth is flat by saying "just look at it!".

Besides, MMR is not even really Elo anymore. I just said that so you could try to look into how it works to get a rough idea of how MMR works. And once you understand how (and why) Elo works in chess, you will also understand how it works with any additional variables, as long as they're properly randomized over a relatively large amount of games. (That would be where the law of big numbers comes into play).

Edit: Either way, if somebody bad happens to be on your team, it'd still not be their fault, it'd at most be Riot's. Which still makes it absolutely ridiculous to ban that person.

SiytherAug 1, 20166 votes

u have to be pretty damn bad at this game to get punished for feeding. If u are behind stop trying to fight cause u just die more. If u go 0 /10 oe better in a game u are prob getting reported for feeding(unless zed or leblanc are just raping u).It happens i actually report very few ppl for feeding.If u run straight down mid lane or keep trying to 1vs 5 or omething. if it even looks like your trying it often more than enough to dismiss the reports so your either intenionally fed or you should just stick to bot games for awhile.Im not trying to be mean or anything but if your getting reported as a feeder for having "bad" games that is a def problem,But the blame mostly will lie with you my friend

LintheAug 1, 20162 votes

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u have to be pretty damn bad at this game to get punished for feeding. If u are behind stop trying to fight cause u just die more. If u go 0 /10 oe better in a game u are prob getting reported for feeding(unless zed or leblanc are just raping u).

Or the other team continually 3 man dives you. This happened to me in an Ahri game. Luckily, this meant that our bot lane was free farming all the wy to the inhib and the other team was getting zero gold off me by the end. We ended up winning due to our bot lane but it was the worst game I have ever played.

DispelleAug 2, 20161 votes

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Or the other team continually 3 man dives you. This happened to me in an Ahri game. Luckily, this meant that our bot lane was free farming all the wy to the inhib and the other team was getting zero gold off me by the end. We ended up winning due to our bot lane but it was the worst game I have ever played.

Fair point, but getting 3-man dived at turret is totally different than if you had been diving THEM while you're at low hp. If he's bronze (like I am myself) I'd give an almost-pass. But if he's silver or higher... nah. No, silvers and above at least know enough not to do THAT by accident. lol Skill level does play into determining whether something is intentional imo.

I'm kinda surprised I'm saying this too, b/c I'm one of the more annoying ppl about refusing to report for int feeding if they're not blatantly announcing it and prancing around enemy turret.Then again, I'm in bronze, where stupid things are usually just honest efforts with horrifyingly astounding results. Hard to tell if it's int. in bronze without said announcement.

BlâckLotusAug 2, 20166 votes

what were you doing in the enemy base?did you troll because you wanted mid and riven didnt let you so you fed lux is my guess http://i.imgur.com/WcgDvgT.png in the second game you lost mid then chose to feed him? http://i.imgur.com/L2x2J7d.png youre dying in the enemy base.thats not being bad in the game thats griefing.

Carobnjak RFSAug 1, 20164 votes

When u have a bad day, dont make it bad for others. Leave the ranked and play pvp or watch some tutorials until u get better. U know, in ranked all players must pay the price for your mistakes. Ranked is not the place where u should learn gameplay basics.

CalabokAug 1, 20164 votes

Feeding the enemy is bad. So punishment was metted. Take the medicine and resolve yourself.

AerilayaAug 1, 20164 votes

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Feeding the enemy is bad. So punishment was metted. Take the medicine and resolve yourself.

In this case, i agree with Calabok. As Warlord Zudane said, there were many times you (BigBoche) should not have fought. The time you went 1v3 as an example. Once i would have understood, anything more and it becomes obvious you were feeding. Bad game or not, there's no excuse for this behavior.

wiggywonkaAug 1, 20164 votes

I dont think banning someone for 14 days for being bad is justified but hopefully this will teach you to play safer and better

xXxAltaïrrxXxAug 1, 20163 votes

Hmm, just checked ur history and it doesnt seem like u int feed.U should send a supp ticket for sure.

KazugaAug 1, 20163 votes

I thank everyone for the replies and help, May it be positive or negative. Didnt think so much people would answer me and im grateful. Ill send a request to riot and hope they will understand thank you all

DREADN0UGHTAug 1, 20162 votes

You should send this up to player support.

I looked your history up and I really don't see any sign of Inting in there. Clearly you need to learn not to die, but its also very clear that you are trying. its not like you went 0/18/0 or anything.

KazugaAug 5, 20162 votes

Guys, earlier today i got a message from a rioter on the ticket where i asked them if they could undo this suspension and THEY DID ! Im so happy and even if i was suspended 2 days it feels good to be trusted by at least riot. GG

TrulyBlandAug 5, 20161 votes

Thanks for the update. It's obviously impossible for regular players to know whether a punishment is deserved or not, so it's always nice to get that kind of closure.

Burri2WhispererAug 1, 20161 votes

Yeah, send a report in and do whatever you can to fight it. I know how stressful it is to have a bad game where every decision you make just ends up snowballing your level of feed, and then other people yelling at you saying you're doing it on purpose just adds salt to the wound. I usually think to myself "I honestly don't think I could be this bad on purpose if I tried." :')

KazugaAug 1, 20161 votes

Yeah , theres just these kinds of days where i feel like everything goes wrong no matter what i do i end up having a bad game even when winning......

Morality CoachAug 1, 20168 votes

No one cares dude, you're an int feeder, prove you aren't one by tanking for awhile.

KazugaAug 1, 20162 votes

The thing is i dont like playing tanks and Yasuo is my favorite champion. Also, i dont want to brag or anything but i think im pretty good with yasuo (over 300k mastery points, lvl7). Though I wont deny the fact i do die alot and am greedy, which is my biggest flaw as a player, i do not by any mean want to ruin other's games.

Morality CoachAug 1, 20162 votes

I got lvl 7 mastery on Taliyah when she was the worst char in the game, it's completely meaningless and does NOT mean you're a good player.

If the automated system thinks you're a troll you are NOT good, lol. Pick a char more appropriate to your level.

KazugaAug 2, 20162 votes

Im not saying im good because im lvl 7 , im saying im lvl 7 to show you im not just making things up

Morality CoachAug 2, 20164 votes

I just read above you're in Silver 1. Dude, 15 deaths in Silver 1? Come on now that was intentional.

I can climb to Silver 1 with like 3-4 characters tops, Silver 1 isn't an easy division.

I know it sucks to not get fed on Riven but you just need to farm minions and chill out the rest of the game if you blow the early game. You can't just go hard 15 feeds, and type in chat my bad guys I'm having a bad game, it's not gonna work, lol.

KazugaAug 2, 20161 votes

I do understand your point, but you must understand that im pretty pissed after having only bad games. saying i should play normals instead may be right but at the same time i dont want to stay silver 1 any longer. I know i can do better and that is why it frustrates me. Sometimes i litterally dont even know why im going suicide 1v3 and it tilts me. Thank you for your reply though and your right on some points.

momimplayingrnAug 2, 20161 votes

i'm silver 3 man and i die 8 times at max and mostly make up for it, but i'm also a tank, if you want someone to play with you so you aren't tilted just let me know, on the forums and i'll add you.

KazugaAug 2, 20161 votes

If you want to duo i would enjoy to, but only if its positive and flame-free XD Add me whenever you want to.

Telephone BoothAug 5, 20161 votes

Ya sometimes you feel like you have to make something happen to win the game so you end up going in by yourself to carry the team. This has happened to me many times. Now I try to remember that it's a team game and I'm not helping by trying to win the game by getting as many kills as I can. Just stop yourself... look at your minimap to find your allies and where the enemies are. Instead of trying to lead your team to victory, sometimes you gotta follow them to victory. Stick with the team and let them go in and blow all the opponents' abilities.. then you go in and demolish them. I know how you feel, you get excited and wanna kill kill kill. Try using more team strategy and you should stop the feeding.

KazugaAug 2, 20161 votes

I also do not think i am a bad player but i wont deny i played badly in these games, but that also is why they are ''bad'' games. They are plenty of games i could say i carried or played well (which is the majority of my games)