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"Open Mid" feature?

Sabrinachu·10/29/2015, 6:07:49 PM·1 votes·2,434 views

I know this started in Korea for teams that wanted an early end to the game due to trolls. But i've noticed people have started doing this in NA as well. My last game they had us group mid because they had a Clarity/Cleanse Sivir run into mid turret 3 times to feed our Malz. While I believe player toxicity should be banned, perhaps a feature like "Open Mid" should be implemented as a sort of early surrender. Have it on a cooldown of 5 minutes or so. That way the game has to play out a little to determine if they player is actually trolling or a god. Then have a vote (kind of like surrender) where your team votes AGAINST the person that is trolling them. If the vote succeeds (4 required) then do something to allow the enemy team to push through mid freely. Drop turret strength, give enemy team enough gold to full build, remove minions from side lanes and spawn nothing but super minions on enemy team. Just some ideas but I think it would help players get into healthier games where they acn enjoy themselves instead of being stuck waiting 20 minutes getting completely dominated.

Edit: Someone replied saying that it's no different than a 20 minute surrender, or dropping the surrender time. The reason I think this should be implemented side by side with a Surrender option (or even surrendering the game if the vote succeeds) would be that it allows more control against toxic players. I'd like to give an example of how the system could work:

Irelia top runs cleanse/clarity. She proceeds to run mid and feed multiple kills. Players initiate the vote after the 5 minute mark. The vote succeeds. Irelia is automatically flagged for trolling, get's a 1 ranked game restriction (the player is obviously tilted/toxic). Team A automatically surrenders the game but receives a 0 LP loss until the game is reviewed. After review, the team either receives a higher LP/MMR drop than normal for the false report and the irelia receives standard LP loss for losing the game. Or the team receives a lower LP/MMR drop due to being trolled while the Irelia loses much more LP and get's a ranked ban/time ban. Either way team B receives standard LP. This would prevent people from initiating the vote needlessly while still allowing players to not be punished negatively because someone joined their game while tilting and expected to troll. Also, disabling it after around 10 minutes would prevent people from abusing it just because they don't like how the game plays out. My idea could be improved on, but I firmly believe a system like this would definitely encourage player behavior and reduce the amount of tilting/trolling going on in ranked settings.

26 Comments

ThePartyLeader10/29/2015, 6:35:16 PM2 votes

............ If they did that why not just let you surrender pre 20. Since that is what you are doing.

Zielmann10/29/2015, 6:33:52 PM1 votes

I don't see how that's any different than just pulling the surrender time forward (which I don't think is something that should happen). Letting the other team push down mid and walk over the base pre-20 is an informal surrender. The team already has to have majority agreement for it to succeed (I've seen a couple players continue to try defending after a 'just push mid' was called by the other team, and it can be enough to stall things longer than should be necessary).

There's not really a benefit to giving a built-in means of quitting the game even earlier.

Sabrinachu10/29/2015, 6:09:29 PM1 votes

Also, set the person that got voted against in your toxic que times (kind of like afk/leaver times) and file an automatic report. I think it would be great with limitations (like not available in normals)

Sabrinachu10/29/2015, 7:14:47 PM1 votes

Something I want you to consider while shutting down the idea is how your post-game chat looks when something like this happens. More than likely it's 4 people saying "Report xxx for feeding/trolling" and the other team sits there laughing because they got free LP. Most of the time they won't report the feeder and instead honor them for doing it. Why would they report someone who gave them 17+ LP? The other times are usually the feeder saying "report xxx + xxx for verbal abuse" which you've probably done and get reported for. This kind of feature gives more power to the community while preventing abusers.

ChaosReignsDown10/29/2015, 7:54:53 PM1 votes

I agree there needs to be something done about the issue. I mean its not fair to punish a whole team because some guy didnt get the role he wants so he trolls the entire match, I just dont think this is the correct way to do it.

I really think using a system based off your individual performance should be used for ranks. You know they can track it. So if I get an S+ and the troll gets a D or whatever it would only punish him for playing poorly. Just my thoughts though.

Madtepez10/30/2015, 4:55:50 PM1 votes

that strategy isn't available anymore.... they removed revive, item 3070

clarity - revive, that was the ultimate combo

ModWuks10/29/2015, 7:02:10 PM1 votes

Personally, I believe "open mid" is a bad concept and shouldn't be implemented or accepted in most situations. I do my best to not let other individuals affect how I choose to play the game, and if someone decides to troll, I'll be sure to win in the midlane and report the player afterwards.