Why RIOT is punishing player that are assaulted and not that aggress?

Glouton Barjot··3 votes·760 views

I only got a chat restriction, but still, my ''Teamate'' from the start have started to talk shit to only because i was playing lulu...even if we were winning they were still harassing me...So why i got punished when other play keep harassing us and don't tell me there is a mute !!!

And yes sorry for my bad english that isnt my first language.

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ModThe Djinn4 votes

Players who engage in toxic behavior get punished, whether they started the situation or whether they merely responded with toxic behavior.

In short, there is not a valid excuse for toxicity.

Glouton Barjot1 votes

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Players who engage in toxic behavior get punished, whether they started the situation or whether they merely responded with toxic behavior.

In short, there is not a valid excuse for toxicity.

So regadless if i play and help they win they still report me because that what they were going to do...if i afk i am reported.....and they keep bothering me. So pls tell me what to do to play in a game for fun ? when everyone in your team is only harrasing and want and will report you. even if you playy or not that you win or not.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

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So regadless if i play and help they win they still report me because that what they were going to do...if i afk i am reported.....and they keep bothering me. So pls tell me what to do to play in a game for fun ? when everyone in your team is only harrasing and want and will report you. even if you playy or not that you win or not.

You should mute them, and continue to play the game. The system is extremely good at filtering out false reports, so if they report you and there was nothing problematic with what you said, you will be fine. If you think your punishment was an error, you can post your chat logs and we can help you see if there was anything that you may have missed.

SaladSavior2151 votes

hi, im back , i wont respond to what ever youre gonna say to me after this because i only came to check up on how the game was doing cause i was bored but i just want to say, i disagree with your opinion that the report system is good a filtering what people say. The report system doesn't have feelings nor does it have a brain and only finds what youre telling it is toxic to be toxic, you get what im saying, the AI computer doesnt understand what flaming is, the AI system whatever it is searches for "insulting" words like "trash" "ass", and things like that but if you were to troll and say the most toxic things in a way that makes it sound like the words dont add up to what itt actually means then even if you report you cant get banned,in other cases if you get reported by your team (all or most of them) the computer would not "filter" anything and would punish you by highlighting your whole chat on the games you were reported in. If you do look at your chats and find that you did nothing wrong the you can easily be triggered by the fact that the system is pure garbage and it just lives of quantity of the reports not the quality. One example, in this account (not perma banned) i was banned for barely saying anything, i didnt say teh person insulting me was garbage or shit, or he should kill himself, i simply did some thing like die because i was caught out, the guy starts flaming me and called be a f-t (slur for gay people even tho i wasnt gay), i then told him that saying those slurs were perma bannable from the game, he then told me back that the system for reporting didnt work, keep in mind this was a long time a go. Well in conclusion, he was right, i ended up with a 14 day ban for doing nothing too wrong, because he had been coincidentally hanging out with his friends so all of them reported me, i reported him and i specified that he said a slur and after ithe 14 day ban i had returned to verify that he was punished, to my surprise i didnt receive a message saying he was punished. I didnt say f-t once wrote a support to ticket about it and was told that saying slurs like that are banneble and i was lucky i wasnt perma\instant banned. i took this discussion to boards where i was heavily downvoted and told that i would never find out if he was punished or not because i was banned but little did they know it was a 14 day ban, i guess this will get heavily downvoted too by people dont cant construct a valid and stable argument so they rely on mods to write it for them then they continue to ride them to victory. i have found that there is no actual reasonf or posting of the forums, you will get downvoted constantly without even a reason and if you mess up and put something the dont like on your post, it gets reported, then down the drain your post go, thanks to someone who lurks in the shadow of the mods and is too scared to post their opinion so they hide behind the downvote and upvote button, as if you can resolve like that IRL, i probably play 2 games of league every 6 months because i get bored and there is nothing else to do, just wanted to put that out there. dont downvote me too hard :)

PresBushDid7111 votes

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So regadless if i play and help they win they still report me because that what they were going to do...if i afk i am reported.....and they keep bothering me. So pls tell me what to do to play in a game for fun ? when everyone in your team is only harrasing and want and will report you. even if you playy or not that you win or not.

If you afk you will get reported, afking violates the summoner code.

The minute someone becomes toxic you mute them... problem solved. After game you report them and let Riot deal with them.

Light Burner1 votes

Okay so here's what you do when someone gets toxic, don't mute but don't tilt yourself either. If they're premade you're probably going to get reported anyways so try to bait as many of them into their deaths without dying and at the end of the game report them for feeding and flaming. It's the best feeling when you see they got punished. If you want to trigger a reaction from them when you successfully bait them spam ctrl+4 then put a smiley face or "sorry" in chat. They get so tilted and start raging in chat and that's how you get them reported with solid evidence without hurting yourself.

Riffex2 votes

What? No! When they are premades and flame you from the beginning, you mute them immediately and report them afterwards. It's as simple as that. Of course only if their flaming tilts you, if not, you can just let them rage at you.

Light Burner1 votes

I'm telling you just do what i said and it makes your life so much better. The experience playing the game is better. Literally waiting for the system to do anything to a troll gets you no where. If its a flamer you'll get him chat banned. You just need to show the troll that you dont give a fuck and you'll troll the shit out of his troll. These trash players need to learn to stop being dumb as fuck or riot needs to find a way to take care of them. We've all been there sitting through hours of climbing only to reach 100 LP and lose it due to 2 trolls in 2 games in a row. It's annoying and stupid and the only compensation we get is a possible screen that says "a player has been punished" like wtf? I dont give a damn if he gets punished by a chat ban a troll remains a troll.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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So regadless if i play and help they win they still report me because that what they were going to do...if i afk i am reported.....and they keep bothering me. So pls tell me what to do to play in a game for fun ? when everyone in your team is only harrasing and want and will report you. even if you playy or not that you win or not.

If a players words are bothering you, please feel free to mute the player. If that's the problem, then solve it. Mute. Bam, you're having fun playing again. If they troll you, report them. They can't stop trolls ahead of time so use the report button. If it happens constantly still and you're not having fun, time to leave the game and if many people have that experience and leave the game, it will die as a failed product. Capitalism at work.

SaladSavior2151 votes

HEY BUDDY MY POST GOT TAKEN DOWN FOR NO REASON EXPLAIN THAT

ModThe Djinn4 votes

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HEY BUDDY MY POST GOT TAKEN DOWN FOR NO REASON EXPLAIN THAT

It appears your post was removed for violating our "no naming and shaming" rule as, while you blocked out one player's name, other names were still present. This was explained in the notification you should have received.

If you need more detail, you are welcome to come onto the Boards Discord, and someone will be happy to talk to you about the situation.

SaladSavior2151 votes

i blocked the person who would be shamed's name, how is that shaming?

ModThe Djinn4 votes

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i blocked the person who would be shamed's name, how is that shaming?

In short, having your chat shared with the public should be an opt-in experience.

SaladSavior2151 votes

cant you just take time out your day to edit it? i mean you clearly have nothing else to do. why would you just take it down without a warning? (i know you didnt take it down i meant the other dev)

ModThe Djinn3 votes

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cant you just take time out your day to edit it? i mean you clearly have nothing else to do. why would you just take it down without a warning? (i know you didnt take it down i meant the other dev)

We're volunteer moderators (so we have a lot to do in our personal lives), and it was an image, which we can't edit cleanly. We often do just remove names from text if there's meaningful content around it, but if we removed the image the thread in question would have had no real content.

SaladSavior2151 votes

exactly so why couldnt the person who took down my shit just just edit it to take out the name? can i just have the link to my deleted post i will fix it and make so that it doesnt show names, mb for calling you guys devs, forgot that "devs" dont actually make anything in the game and just ban people nowadays (no offense)

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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exactly so why couldnt the person who took down my shit just just edit it to take out the name? can i just have the link to my deleted post i will fix it and make so that it doesnt show names, mb for calling you guys devs, forgot that "devs" dont actually make anything in the game and just ban people nowadays (no offense)

Because editing your image would involve saving it, opening it in an image editor, obscuring the names, rehosting the image, and editing it back into the post. That's way outside the scope of our responsibilities.

I cannot provided the deleted link on the forums, unfortunately. But you are welcome to repost the thread with all the names blanked out if you so desire.

Xidphel1 votes

Top 10 not my department moments

SaladSavior2151 votes

m8 i cant fucking get screenshot back because i overwrote it

Telephone Booth1 votes

How bout next time, you just edit out the name? Hell, just edit it out now and make a thread again.

SaladSavior2151 votes

ey boi, why do you think im asking for the screenshot?, do you think that my iq is so low that i wouldnt have thought of that first?

no offence please don't report me for insulting myself

Telephone Booth1 votes

I must have misunderstood something, my bad.

Edit: oh I missed the part where you overwrote it and couldn't get it back. I thought you wanted him to edit it out for you just because he's the one who took it down. Just do it yourself, I thought to myself. Sorry

Light Burner1 votes

I don't believe this at all because afk'ing would be regarded as toxic behavior. If i had someone following me around and taking all my gold and making me share exp. Why wouldn't i just afk and report them. If they're literally making it so the game is unplayable. When you report a player like this they dont get banned. Then yea honestly screw it just afk and move on to the next game. You can't sit here and tell me toxic behavior like that is uncalled for.

PresBushDid7111 votes

Chat logs?

Glouton Barjot1 votes

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Chat logs?

Dunno how to have it, tell me how and i will post

PresBushDid7111 votes

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Dunno how to have it, tell me how and i will post

When you log in you should have the logs that got you punished, and you can copy them here.

Xidphel1 votes

Let's not resort to libel.

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