Actual Chat Log on my Chat Restriction

Zerogamelol·May 8, 2017·3 votes·6,323 views

So, let's just rename the tribunal: "If you use the chat, you will be punished."

Zerogamelol: fyi, vlad was assigned supp, banned my champ, and will be trolling top. enjoy Zerogamelol: i've done nothing to troll, just had my champ banned and picked an alternate top laner Zerogamelol: all muted Zerogamelol: i'm not supp, take it up with vlad Zerogamelol: no, i'm not Zerogamelol: wwe Zerogamelol: i'm top lane, and i'm playing top lane. saying that me going top when i'm assigned top is trolling is stupid Zerogamelol: no, if i was assigned supp i would play supp. i was assigned top, i'm playing top Zerogamelol: i'd be carrying, but vlad refuses to let me cs Zerogamelol: guess vlad isn't the only one i'm reporting Zerogamelol: no, i don't do false reports bc they negative impact you Zerogamelol: playing the role i was assigned isn't reportable Zerogamelol: have done nothing Zerogamelol: however they have verbal abused quite a lot

Half of those chats were in response to allchats of "report both top trolls." Lol yup, toxic scumlord here.

63 Comments

RiotRiot TantramMay 8, 201723 votes

When posting logs in the context of a penalty for others to review, please post them in their entirety.

If you'd like, I can post them all here for you.

KVbqbFsC8eMay 8, 20172 votes

Why does the system hand out irrelevant logs in the first place? I don't think anyone would believe the OPs log being worthy of a ban, so why is it included anyway?

Jo0oMay 8, 20178 votes

I think Tantram means that OP edited the logs to make themselves appear more innocent.

KVbqbFsC8eMay 8, 20172 votes

I think its more likely that there was at least one other chat log included, and the OP only posted the least "toxic" one.

Jo0oMay 8, 20172 votes

Oh, perhaps. Your point is a fine one, then.

Though OP's log isn't... great. Arguing all game is detrimental and doesn't help, even while being trolled. The best answer to the situation OP showed us is to mute and report, or perhaps even bite the bullet and take Support.

FreeVolibearMay 9, 20171 votes

Are you suggesting that OP should have taken a position he was not rightfully assigned if someone wanted his position even when not assigned? I don't like the "take the abuse and quietly report" implication either, but at least that somewhat makes sense, but this suggestion to give in to a troll is unbelievable! I find it bold you even suggested it. o_O

Jo0oMay 10, 20171 votes

It's not a great suggestion, but it's not the worst.

If somebody is going to be a dick and steal your lane, and you can't reason with them, then you may be better off taking their refused role and giving your team a valid composition rather than just insisting on doubling up on the contested role. You can still report them after the game, of course.

A Rioter should never make that suggestion, since it creates a shitty precedent where bullies can always force their desired role. But in the absence of better options, I'd rather at least try to win the game. Two carries top lane and no support is bad for all involved.

ChønklordMay 8, 20171 votes

Oh I see your point now;

For those confused, the question is

"If multiple (up to 3 games' worth of) chat logs are provided as 'proof' / 'evidence' of toxicity for a punishment, why then would there be a game chat log that contains no toxicity, be used as such?"

Granted, I don't see anything truly wrong with the OP's chat log that is posted; but Tantram obviously knows those aren't the full logs.

Most likely it's been edited with the real toxic parts cut out.

If that's not the case, and this is just one out of 3 game's chat logs, then I'd truly like to hear from Riot what part of this log is considered toxic....

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bôôsted Bonobo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rnVEUAFe,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2017-05-08T23:19:14.619+0000)

"If multiple (up to 3 games' worth of) chat logs are provided as 'proof' / 'evidence' of toxicity for a punishment, why then would there be a game chat log that contains no toxicity, be used as such?"

If that's not the case, and this is just one out of 3 game's chat logs, then I'd truly like to hear from Riot what part of this log is considered toxic....

This is mostly what I was curious in, in starting this thread. Self-defense is punishable?

ModThe DjinnMay 8, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rnVEUAFe,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-08T22:22:36.570+0000)

When posting logs in the context of a penalty for others to review, please post them in their entirety.

If you'd like, I can post them all here for you.

Out of curiosity -- any idea how much overhead it would take to make logs linkable to the public? Seems like it would help you guys on this board. Unless, of course, it's fun to take a break and crack open cases with comments like this one -- I can understand that. :P

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

This chat log is 100% unedited and I find it kind of a stab at my character/morality that you suggested I did so. Go ahead, look it up, it's the entire Game 2 log on the three logs it shows me.

I can post the others as well, because while they contain slightly toxic-construable chat, they aren't wildly incriminating. If you looked at any of the games in question and looked at the chat of my teammates chatting to me (which, unfortunately, riot does not provide to us but which also paints a much fuller picture), I promise my chat looks damn-near angelic in comparison.

RiotRiot TantramMay 9, 20176 votes

You cherry picked a single chat log, when multiple were given. This was my point.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

Of course I did; with the title of this thread being, "Actual Chat Log on my Chat Restriction," because this is an actual chat log on my chat restriction.

ModPrandineMay 9, 20172 votes

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Of course I did; with the title of this thread being, "Actual Chat Log on my Chat Restriction," because this is an actual chat log on my chat restriction.

See the thing is though is that the people here generally don't take kindly to those who intentionally omit certain parts of their chat logs. Yes that is one of the games you were sent, but choosing to only show that one initially instead of all three reflects badly on you and is a generally very poor way of trying to gain support and help. Why? Because it gives people the impression that you have something to hide, and when that happens people generally become very suspicious and skeptical of anything that you say. Next time (assuming there is a next time) just post all of them at once instead of trying to hide them all, only show one and claim that that was all you got when you know that that's obviously not true.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

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only show one and claim that that was all you got when you know that that's obviously not true.

I never made this claim. I said that this was an actual chat log on my chat restriction, and laughed at how utterly non-toxic I feel I was.

ModPrandineMay 9, 20173 votes

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I never made this claim. I said that this was an actual chat log on my chat restriction, and laughed at how utterly non-toxic I feel I was.

I never said you did. However, the fact remains that you intentionally withheld information about your Reform Card from us initially. Every now and then we get people who only post snippets of their chat logs and/or one or two games of their Reform Cards when there is clearly more to the story than what they've initially posted. Usually this is done to gain sympathy and to try to trick others into thinking that their behavior is tamer than it actually is. This practice is frowned upon here and only hurts the persons chances of receiving any actual help.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

I wasn't trying to gain sympathy or overturn the decision, but I did want to point out the ridiculousness of the system: What part of the chat log posted initially warrants punishment, and/or why was that chat log displayed as part of my reform card (implying it was used in the decision to deal punishment)?

ModPrandineMay 9, 20171 votes

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I wasn't trying to gain sympathy or overturn the decision, but I did want to point out the ridiculousness of the system:

Please note that I said "usually": I didn't say that's why you did it, only that you in fact did it and that when people in the past have done it usually it was done to try to game sympathy or to trick others into thinking that their punishment was unwarranted when it actually wasn't.

What part of the chat log posted initially warrants punishment,

At the very least? In my opinion the calling for reports as it can be viewed as harassment in this case. There is no need to call for reports at any time before, during or after the game.

and/or why was that chat log displayed as part of my reform card (implying it was used in the decision to deal punishment)?

Reform Cards generally only show some of your more recent games that you have been reported in. Sometimes this can result in cases where one or two games in particular are tame(r) in comparison to the others.

Ultimately though it only takes one game of poor behavior to result in a punishment, and in my opinion game 3 is enough evidence against you to make the punishment valid.

Kei143May 9, 20171 votes

I'm guessing you are under the impression that you get punished for 1-5 games of toxicity (depending on the number that was presented to you in the reform card)?

What was shown in the reform card are just examples of unacceptable behavior that you performed. It isn't only those games that were taken in account when punishing you.

If you were to receive a full reform card (which only Riot has access to), then it'll probably read "you were validly reported 63% of your games in the past 100 games" or something like that.

On actual topic, the only reason I can find for this to be a valid report is "I guess vlad is not the only one I'm reporting", which in this context was used as a threat in a very mild manner.

Mild toxicity (such as asking for reports) is indeed punishable over lots of games. So I'm guessing you probably have a habit of small toxicity throughout your games.

ZerogamelolMay 10, 20171 votes

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On actual topic, the only reason I can find for this to be a valid report is "I guess vlad is not the only one I'm reporting", which in this context was used as a threat in a very mild manner.

So if someone says "f@@k you you f@@@ing fa@@ot n@@@er" and I say, "ok I'm reporting you" then I have now suddenly harassed them? I never called for a report, I stated that I was reporting someone in response to their inflammatory statements.

Kei143May 10, 20171 votes

well, they will be punished for their words, you will be punished for yours. What they say has no baring on your account whatsoever.

If you wanted to tell them that what they were saying isn't cool, then just say those exact words. Telling them that they are reported in these scenarios are pretty much implying "HAHA YOU ARE GOING TO GET BANNED".

It is a threat / harassment. Even if it is a very mild form of it.

You can just report them without saying it, or let them know that what they are saying isn't cool (and still report them after). No need to use a threat.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

Side note: what are my chances of getting you to post the chat logs of my teammates (even if you filter out the names because of whatever the goofy policy is around here about calling people out)? If I got a chat-restrict from this, they surely got permabanned for what they were saying, right?

ModPeriscopeMay 9, 20171 votes

They don't discuss player's chat without their consent, as that could potentially lead to harassment.

As for why they did/didn't get punished, they were in a different step of the punishment tiers. Maybe it was their first time being toxic, or it could have been their last.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

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They don't discuss player's chat without their consent, as that could potentially lead to harassment.

I'm fine if they swap out "ToxicPlayer1234" with "Jhin"---that keeps it anonymous, and relevant.

RiotRiot TantramMay 9, 20176 votes

The other players' chat has nothing to do with you.

Each player is responsible for their own chat. You are responsible for yours. How does anything they said have anything to do with what you chose to type and when you hit enter?

ZerogamelolMay 10, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rnVEUAFe,comment-id=00030002000000010001,timestamp=2017-05-09T19:27:19.813+0000)

The other players' chat has nothing to do with you.

Each player is responsible for their own chat. You are responsible for yours. How does anything they said have anything to do with what you chose to type and when you hit enter?

Of course their chat has something to do with me. Are you saying that Riot finds self-defense (without ANY harassment or verbal abuse) a punishable action? If someone says "f**k you feeder" and I say, "I'm not feeding, you have more deaths than me," what crime have I committed?

If 3 of your teammates are constantly all-chatting to report you, because you were assigned top and went to top lane, and you say in all-chat "i'm not doing anything wrong, i was assigned top and I'm playing top"---is that punishable?

If someone says "f@@@k you f@@@ot n@@@er b@@@h" and I say "ok I'm reporting you" and Riot finds that to be a punishable statement, then Riot really needs to rethink their approach.

Please, I really need clarification to prevent further infractions.

XidphelMay 10, 20174 votes

Are you saying that Riot finds self-defense (without ANY harassment or verbal abuse) a punishable action?

No they don't. You don't get punished for muting them.

ModPrandineMay 10, 20171 votes

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Of course their chat has something to do with me. Are you saying that Riot finds self-defense (without ANY harassment or verbal abuse) a punishable action? If someone says "f**k you feeder" and I say, "I'm not feeding, you have more deaths than me," what crime have I committed?

If 3 of your teammates are constantly all-chatting to report you, because you were assigned top and went to top lane, and you say in all-chat "i'm not doing anything wrong, i was assigned top and I'm playing top"---is that punishable?

If someone says "fk you fot ner bh" and I say "ok I'm reporting you" and Riot finds that to be a punishable statement, then Riot really needs to rethink their approach.

Please, I really need clarification to prevent further infractions.

You want some clarity? Okay, here's some: don't do or say anything that you know will just tick people off, it's that simple. Also, if someone refuses to stop acting up in chat then just mute, report and move on. "Defending yourself" by doing/saying something bad back isn't an acceptable excuse as 1) your teammates now have an additional jerk to deal with and 2) instead of 1 jerk getting punished, multiple jerks are getting punished: you and the ones who started it.

TrulyBlandMay 10, 20171 votes

How would what he said imply that self defense without any harassment or verbal abuse is a punishable action? The entire point is that their chat doesn't matter. So if you didn't harass or verbally abuse, how would that suddenly be a punishable action because you replied to somebody?

However, two of your examples, even if I personally wouldn't report for it, are not really neutral. Stating that you are reporting somebody is a very simple and seemingly innocent way of attacking somebody. Likewise pointing out that somebody else has more deaths than you is in this context pretty much saying "no, you are".

The term "punishable" is oversimplified and misleading when it comes to such infractions. While neither of these two are terribly negative, they still are, without a doubt negative. And as a result they might not get punished as readily on their own, but they can add up to an already existing pattern of negativity and increase your chance to get punished.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rnVEUAFe,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-08T22:22:36.570+0000)

When posting logs in the context of a penalty for others to review, please post them in their entirety.

If you'd like, I can post them all here for you.

No need to post for me, because I didn't edit that log and I don't find anything very offensive about any of mine.

Game 1 - Teemo top, get harassed from champ select throughout whole game for picking Teemo. Lose lane, see all-chats by someone with more deaths to report me for inting. TP mid at 15+ min and get first tower. Swain (the mid-laner) starts intentionally feeding because of it, admits to it in chat.

Game 2 - Self-explanatory, the auto-filled support decided he doesn't play support, banned my champion, and went top. All of my comments in general were to respond to mid/adc/jg calling in all-chat to report me and Vlad.

Game 3 - Lux support, I clear half a minion wave with my E just before my ADC gets to lane, and he goes absolutely nuts over it for the remainder of the game, all-chatting that I'm trolling, report me, he's AFK, and then ultimately he started intentionally feeding.

Game 1 Zerogamelol: all muted Zerogamelol: cheeky Zerogamelol: so we're not ganking top this game? Zerogamelol: bc darius just sits under my tower Zerogamelol: well if it's that bad Zerogamelol: i'mma just go mid Zerogamelol: not trolling, there's no point in staying top Zerogamelol: he literally just dove me at 100% under tower Zerogamelol: you fed more than me mate Zerogamelol: w/e you say, enjoy the tribunal Zerogamelol: idc, i'll lose LP and you'll get banned. i cry Zerogamelol: mkay Zerogamelol: gl Zerogamelol: swain admitted to inting btw Zerogamelol: never admitted to trolling Zerogamelol: i was told there was no point being top Zerogamelol: so i came mid and got fb tower Zerogamelol: i don't mushroom waves ^ Zerogamelol: shrooms are for champs not minions Zerogamelol: haven't inted at all Zerogamelol: still have done nothing reportable Zerogamelol: grouping mid not reportable Zerogamelol: only one griefing is you Zerogamelol: again, no and the tp mid happened at 15+ min Zerogamelol: and got fb tower out of it Zerogamelol: and i don't mushroom minion waves Zerogamelol: i did not Game 2 Zerogamelol: fyi, vlad was assigned supp, banned my champ, and will be trolling top. enjoy Zerogamelol: i've done nothing to troll, just had my champ banned and picked an alternate top laner Zerogamelol: all muted Zerogamelol: i'm not supp, take it up with vlad Zerogamelol: no, i'm not Zerogamelol: wwe Zerogamelol: i'm top lane, and i'm playing top lane. saying that me going top when i'm assigned top is trolling is stupid Zerogamelol: no, if i was assigned supp i would play supp. i was assigned top, i'm playing top Zerogamelol: i'd be carrying, but vlad refuses to let me cs Zerogamelol: guess vlad isn't the only one i'm reporting Zerogamelol: no, i don't do false reports bc they negative impact you Zerogamelol: playing the role i was assigned isn't reportable Zerogamelol: have done nothing Zerogamelol: however they have verbal abused quite a lot Game 3 Zerogamelol: remakes are cool Zerogamelol: if it lets us Zerogamelol: xayah afk? Zerogamelol: funny, talon just did Zerogamelol: lol Zerogamelol: talon you were about 15s from a remake loss :P Zerogamelol: only using on it when it's a group on tower Zerogamelol: i care more about tower hp than 3cs Zerogamelol: like i said, i care more about tower hp than 3cw Zerogamelol: cs Zerogamelol: lethatlity Zerogamelol: stfu Zerogamelol: god you're toxic Zerogamelol: you don't understand how to win Zerogamelol: this isn't bronze learn strats Zerogamelol: you're whining about 5cs i took Zerogamelol: but you're busy chatting you've just missed 3 waves Zerogamelol: and you still have more than xayah Zerogamelol: w/e, enjoy tribunal Zerogamelol: idc tbh Zerogamelol: funny thing is you can afk and we'll still win, weak link leaving doesn't hurt us at all Zerogamelol: sleepy Zerogamelol: jhin* is Zerogamelol: killed elise and got chased away by trundle and rakan Zerogamelol: that's great Zerogamelol: doesn't mean i can turn around and 1v2 trundle and rakan Zerogamelol: you were able to baron bc i killed their jg Zerogamelol: i'm doing just fine ty Zerogamelol: when you get out of silver you'll understand Zerogamelol: till then no point explaining Zerogamelol: jhin inting Zerogamelol: it's all you jhin Zerogamelol: bc you lost 3cs lol Zerogamelol: grow up Zerogamelol: xin afk

I just must be the most toxic player in League

ModPeriscopeMay 9, 20173 votes

Most of the reportable content from these games is harassing:

game 1) You accuse your mid of feeding. There's not much else harassing going on here. I will note that the game seemed to go downhill immediately after you and Swain took first tower.

game 3) calling players silver and bronze. You also state Jhin was feeding, but he has only one more death than you do, and just barely more CS than you do.

Game 2 isn't harassing; though, you left out a crucial detail in your statement about this game.

Zerogamelol: i've done nothing to troll, just had my champ banned and picked an alternate top lamer

You picked Janna, took teleport and flash, and you did considerably less damage than anyone else in that game despite building mostly damage items and not taking any support items.

Given that you've left out details about your games, the game histories have some inconsistencies with your story, and you initially withheld 2 of the chat logs, I'm not too inclined to believe that we've been given the full chat logs.

You've also made numerous allusions to the tribunal. It no longer exists.

Maybe I'm incorrect, in which case, you should submit a support ticket.

The barred owl (no, not the Bard owl, but it is pronounced that way) has a distinct hooting call. It sounds similar to "Who cooks for you? Who cooks for you all?" Support your region at MSI 2017 by buying the MSI icon for only 1 IP.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

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game 3) calling players silver and bronze. You also state Jhin was feeding, but he has only one more death than you do, and just barely more CS than you do.

It IS a silver-elo game.

Game 2 isn't harassing; though, you left out a crucial detail in your statement about this game.

You picked Janna, took teleport and flash, and you did considerably less damage than anyone else in that game despite building mostly damage items and not taking any support items.

Yes, it was hard to do any considerable damage because of a creep wave of 6 minions, I would be lucky to get 1 with Vlad trolling me. Usually entire waves would go by with me gaining 0cs, until late-game when a tornado could clear an entire wave.

The fact that I picked Janna is not relevant to this discussion in any way, shape, or form. References: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player#h2q5 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4XhjbpRLR4

And, again, I didn't take any support items because I was not support.

Given that you've left out details about your games, the game histories have some inconsistencies with your story, and you initially withheld 2 of the chat logs, I'm not too inclined to believe that we've been given the full chat logs.

That's your issue to cope with, then, but feel free to ask Riot Tantram to post the logs since he offered. I didn't change so much as a punctuation. Actually, I would love if he could post the full chat logs, including but most especially my teammates' chat.

ModPeriscopeMay 9, 20171 votes

That video is from 2013....

I'm ok with oddball supports, but the champion taken seems to be done in order to intentionally mislead the rest of your team. You have also ~~never~~ not played Janna top in ranked this season*; the last time you had played her in ranked, you bought pink wards. 2, to be exact.

*Edit - have not played Janna in ranked this season

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

No, and I made it very clear in champ select that I was taking Janna top, so there was nothing misleading about it. Your latter point, again, has no relevance.

Imperial PandaaMay 9, 20171 votes

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He played Janna May the 6th 2017.

I don't understand why he would want to take Janna solo lane, she works best with a partner.

I also agree the video is misleading in the extent of the year it is from, I wager it was chosen because it supported AP Janna Top.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

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game 1) You accuse your mid of feeding. There's not much else harassing going on here. I will note that the game seemed to go downhill immediately after you and Swain took first tower.

I didn't accuse him. He literally said in team-chat that he was "inting" and then proceeded to do so.

You also state Jhin was feeding, but he has only one more death than you do, and just barely more CS than you do.

He only has one more death than me, but up to that point he had several less. Did I also "harass" Xin for going AFK, because he went AFK and I pointed it out?

ChønklordMay 8, 20174 votes

Dammmmn you just got summoner 11 and summoner 14 'd by Tantram.

Post the full logs, friend.

If you dare.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

This is the full Game 2 chat log, and I'd challenge Tantram to find otherwise.

Game 3 isn't much worse, but I did say at one point that a player was a weak-link, said "this isn't bronze" and to learn some strategies. Oh man I'm toxic. He spent the whole game flaming to report me because at one point as Lux support, I used my E to clear half a minion wave that was on our tower, just before he got back to lane. He said he was AFK, so I said "that's fine, we're still going to win"---which is true, we were very, very ahead and he was not one of the players doing well. Then he started intentionally feeding, Xin went AFK, and we lost.

The first few lines, we had an AFK Talon and they had an AFK Xayah, but both reconnected in time.

Game 3 Zerogamelol: remakes are cool Zerogamelol: if it lets us Zerogamelol: xayah afk? Zerogamelol: funny, talon just did Zerogamelol: lol Zerogamelol: talon you were about 15s from a remake loss :P Zerogamelol: only using on it when it's a group on tower Zerogamelol: i care more about tower hp than 3cs Zerogamelol: like i said, i care more about tower hp than 3cw Zerogamelol: cs Zerogamelol: lethatlity Zerogamelol: stfu Zerogamelol: god you're toxic Zerogamelol: you don't understand how to win Zerogamelol: this isn't bronze learn strats Zerogamelol: you're whining about 5cs i took Zerogamelol: but you're busy chatting you've just missed 3 waves Zerogamelol: and you still have more than xayah Zerogamelol: w/e, enjoy tribunal Zerogamelol: idc tbh Zerogamelol: funny thing is you can afk and we'll still win, weak link leaving doesn't hurt us at all Zerogamelol: sleepy Zerogamelol: jhin* is Zerogamelol: killed elise and got chased away by trundle and rakan Zerogamelol: that's great Zerogamelol: doesn't mean i can turn around and 1v2 trundle and rakan Zerogamelol: you were able to baron bc i killed their jg Zerogamelol: i'm doing just fine ty Zerogamelol: when you get out of silver you'll understand Zerogamelol: till then no point explaining Zerogamelol: jhin inting Zerogamelol: it's all you jhin Zerogamelol: bc you lost 3cs lol Zerogamelol: grow up Zerogamelol: xin afk

Oh, I said "grow up," too. Banbanbanban.

ChønklordMay 9, 20176 votes

You are very argumentative and condescending in these chats.

Asking for reports can also be considered harassment in this context.

Waiting on the Game 1 chat logs, since you have Game 2 and 3 here already.

It's a chat restrict so you're aware now this type of argumentative, destructive chat is not accepted in the community. Remember that saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all"?

Now's a good time to keep that as your in-game mantra when using the chat.

As a reformed player who came back from a 2-week suspension and currently having around $4,000 invested in this account, I can safely say the best course of action is to never, ever, ever ever insult, degrade, or otherwise belittle your teammates/opponents. That's just asking for a punishment.

The NidjaMay 9, 20171 votes

Honestly, just mute all and disable chat so you can't talk. There is no such thing as constructive communication in that low of an elo. Maybe in master tier but even then it most likely isn't worth it.

obsesseMay 9, 20171 votes

Whatever anyone else says doesn't matter. Riot knows that toxic players ruin games, that's why they hand out punishments. All you have to do is report them. By saying anything, you are typically just feeding the troll. Even worse, you're engaging the toxic individual and will likely get wrapped up with them. By going back and forth with them, all they have to do is report you and now your logs will be reviewed. It doesn't matter how toxic they are. Riot does not want you to engage them. Do not engage them.

Try this: if someone says any of the following, just immediately mute them and report them after the game. Only engage teammates and enemy players if they are communicating positively. list: nice cs nice flash gg ez report xxx stfu xxx inting xxx afk

Also, there's no need to say any of these things. You do not need multiple reports for a punishment on a toxic player. Your single report, if it is the only one, WILL lead to a log review and it CAN trigger a punishment.

I hope this helps.

Hestia

Sup3rKamlGuruMay 8, 20172 votes

lol riot only cares about banning whoever was more toxic they never take into account the reason why you started typing, sucks you got banned man, even if there is more chat logs having someone steal your lane is pretty tilting!

ModPrandineMay 8, 20173 votes

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lol riot only cares about banning whoever was more toxic they never take into account the reason why you started typing, sucks you got banned man, even if there is more chat logs having someone steal your lane is pretty tilting!

It's not about whoever was more toxic, it's about whoever is being disruptive and creating/contributing to a negative environment. Whoever started it or whoever was behaving worse doesn't matter: if multiple players are acting up and refuse to stop then they each get punished for poor behavior. In the OPs case yes it stinks to have someone steal your lane but whining and complaining about it in the chat is not gonna change or solve anything, and he could have handled the situation both better and in a way that wouldn't have caused him to get in trouble for poor behavior.

Sup3rKamlGuruMay 9, 20173 votes

yea i know right **** him for complaining about being trolled how dare he get upset a kid who is deliberately ruining his game the nerve!

ModPrandineMay 9, 20172 votes

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yea i know right **** him for complaining about being trolled how dare he get upset a kid who is deliberately ruining his game the nerve!

it's okay to be upset, but the time spent needlessly complaining about it in the chat only takes time away from playing the actual game itself. As a very competitive person myself I too get upset from time to time, but instead of taking out my frustration on my teammates I instead just yell and rage at the screen. This lets me vent my frustrations without dragging the team down and potentially putting myself at risk for an account punishment. I would suggest that more people try this instead of spending time doing it in chat.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

I never whined or complained in this chat log. I was responding to non-stop (at least every 2 minutes) all-chats to report me and Vlad, saying that "I'm doing nothing wrong" or "I'm just playing my lane I was given" or "I'm not trolling."

Warlord ScrapMay 8, 20171 votes

Submit a support ticket. If this is all that there was and you have no prior punishments you should get it lifted.

ZerogamelolMay 9, 20171 votes

That's an even bigger waste of time. I've submitted a support ticket on another account with a full-game replay of a game where, from level 1, a Tahm Kench support followed me around the map, swallowing me and spitting me nonstop. At enemy turrets, at enemy teams, and as well, swallowing me just to cs before spitting me out. Like 30-40 minutes of that, he did nothing else. If I pressed B to go to base, he would swallow me to interrupt my back, so I would have to manually walk the distance while he chased me and carried me and spat me in the opposite direction. Why? His duo got jungle, and I didn't role swap.

The next day I was punished with a lengthy chat log similar to this one from that game: pointing out to enemy team that I was being trolled, responding to my team calling to report me (that is, the duo were saying to report me) by saying I wasn't doing anything wrong, sprinkled with a couple of "look, whatever, enjoy the tribunal." Name-calling, verbal abuse, etc, never a part of the chat.

But, like we all know, if you get 1 report that's a flag. And in silver elo, if someone doesn't like you for any reason, they're reporting you. Whether it's because you picked Teemo, or whether it's because you have a negative kda or lost lane, or whether it's because you didn't give up your lane when they got autofilled, or whether it's because you didn't laneswap their duo partner.

Warlord ScrapMay 9, 20172 votes

Well submit a support ticket anyway. And riot tantrum already called you out thats not the full chat logs. So either post the full logs were you know you said something wrong. If you did nothing wrong 1 million people could report you and nothing would happen.

ChønklordMay 9, 20171 votes

You keep saying "Tribunal" like it's something that still exists; it does not.

It was replaced 2 odd years ago with the Instant Feedback System. You cannot simply be "punished" just because one or more players reported you; there must be something within the chat logs that you said which is considered griefing/toxicity. Argumentative/combative chat is one example. Condescension and belittling teammates are others.

There's never any reason to grief about trolls or toxic players in chat or /all chat, you're just perpetuating their toxicity by giving them what they want: attention.

Also, you can only be punished by the IFS for chat related offenses like harassment, griefing, etc; it automatically scans and interprets toxicity in chat with its algorithms.

More severe forms of toxicity that are not chat related such as int feeding, trolling, etc, are usually manually reviewed by a Riot Player Specialist.

Permabans are almost always manually reviewed, except in cases of extreme hate speech such as racism and homophobic slurs.