Permabanned...

DemiGorx··2 votes·709 views

Ok first gonna try to be civil i know the flames are coming.... permabanned for saying %%%% once in a match when being called %%%got and retard by my support for 30+ minutes.... then getting over our issues and winning the match.... now i did have a 2 week but i riot did not follow their own rules for banning they skipped steps one and two completely on me..... IT just amazes me ... I went how many matches since my two week without any incidents and one sour apple and one swear word lost me my entire account.... It saddens me to say i can't support rito anymore

[17:41] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): dude i have no supp [17:58] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): Maybe if i had a real fucking supp [23:16] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): Our raka is bad and a troll [24:20] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): lol yeah [25:05] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): BUT THEY BANNED SINGLE PLAYER MODS IN GTAV [25:17] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): =] [26:26] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): Only if you report ours [27:19] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): ours was ping god 2017 [27:51] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): i muted his pings [30:40] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): CAUSE SHE HAD A SUPPORT THAT WAS NOT TAKING CS

23:36] DemiGorx (Xayah): Kid enjoy your 14 day ban [23:57] DemiGorx (Xayah): I FILLED YOU MORON [24:03] DemiGorx (Xayah): i let you all have lanes you wanted [24:11] DemiGorx (Xayah): instead of auto locking [24:30] DemiGorx (Xayah): btw how do you learn champs [24:35] DemiGorx (Xayah): YOU PLAY THEM IN NORMAL

Punishments generally follow a basic escalation path:

First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction
Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction
Third Offense: Two Week Suspension
Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension

However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account.

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ModThe Djinn3 votes

They are following their own rules, as per what you linked:

However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account.

Hate speech (such as the word you used) is considered excessively negative behavior, and typically results in an immediate 14-day ban on the first offense. Given that you HAD a 14-day ban, any subsequent violations will result in a permanent ban unless your track record since your last ban shows a long-term improvement in your behavior. Note that "long term improvement" usually means several months.

Further, that is the timeframe estimated to drop your account punishment by one level. Hate speech on top of the chat restriction level on a previously punished account would likely still result in a permanent ban.

DemiGorx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rjePW3pz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-26T14:47:26.321+0000)

They are following their own rules, as per what you linked:

Hate speech (such as the word you used) is considered excessively negative behavior, and typically results in an immediate 14-day ban on the first offense. Given that you HAD a 14-day ban, any subsequent violations will result in a permanent ban unless your track record since your last ban shows a long-term improvement in your behavior.

I used the word C-u-n-t

DemiGorx1 votes

also went 30+ games no incidents but one little swear word and telling the kid to stop tilting his own team so him and his buddy could abuse the report system is awesome but oh well i uninstalled and cant say i will be coming back...

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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also went 30+ games no incidents but one little swear word and telling the kid to stop tilting his own team so him and his buddy could abuse the report system is awesome but oh well i uninstalled and cant say i will be coming back...

It typically takes significantly more than 30 games to deescalate a punishment, sadly.

DemiGorx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rjePW3pz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-26T14:54:31.688+0000)

It typically takes significantly more than 30 games to deescalate a punishment, sadly.

meh its all good.... My fault in the end i guess... oh well off to other games.. i can't recover $100 i spent on this and it kinda tilts me even more being permabanned for that word once.. when flamed the entire game... wish they would read chat logs first before permabanning and stuff to see how far other players are pushed before they snap

AsD The Dreamer2 votes

It typically takes significantly more than 30 games to deescalate a punishment, sadly.

But then what is the truth? On the EUNE boards, the mods told me that it is like 2 weeks.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=AsD The Dreamer,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rjePW3pz,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-06-26T15:06:23.434+0000)

But then what is the truth? On the EUNE boards, the mods told me that it is like 2 weeks.

The actual response is that no one really knows. We know it's tied to games played instead of merely time, but it's possible that it varies based on punishments, report rate, or other factors we're not sure of. Riot hasn't revealed the specifics of how the system works.

I personally like to be conservative in my estimates, so that players don't risk getting surprised when they find out their account is NOT deescalated.

AsD The Dreamer1 votes

Tbh there could be some sort of visible timer. Some sort of combination between games played and time should be a balanced mix between the two. It's a real risk once you got baned for 2 weeks because you are on the edge.

ModThe Djinn5 votes

[{quoted}](name=AsD The Dreamer,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rjePW3pz,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-26T15:12:28.465+0000)

Tbh there could be some sort of visible timer. Some sort of combination between games played and time should be a balanced mix between the two. It's a real risk once you got baned for 2 weeks because you are on the edge.

I believe it's intentional that it ISN'T visible. I don't think Riot wants to give a signal that effectively says "hey -- it's okay to be a little toxic again, since your punishment is entirely gone."

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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I used the word C-u-n-t

Ah. That isn't much better though -- it's still a very offensive and sexual word. While it might not be subject to the zero tolerance policy (I don't know the specifics), calling another player that would still be likely to trigger a punishment, and, coming off of a recent 14-day ban, that would probably still push you over the edge.

DemiGorx1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rjePW3pz,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2017-06-26T14:50:21.910+0000)

Ah. That isn't much better though -- it's still a very offensive and sexual word. While it might not be subject to the zero tolerance policy (I don't know the specifics), calling another player that would still be likely to trigger a punishment, and, coming off of a recent 14-day ban, that would probably still push you over the edge.

I understand punishment may be needed but permabanning people who also spend money on your game is a BAD BAD business plan.. def when you watch youtubers swear ingame all the time and nothing happens ( cause you can't ban Twitch personalitys or it looks bad)

ModPrandine

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I understand punishment may be needed but permabanning people who also spend money on your game is a BAD BAD business plan.. def when you watch youtubers swear ingame all the time and nothing happens ( cause you can't ban Twitch personalitys or it looks bad)

Not really, especially if the person spending money is consistently behaving poorly. Think of it like this:

Players a, b and c are playing the game. A has spent $200 on the game but consistently behaves poorly. B and c have also spent $200 on the game but do not behave poorly. Eventually a's behavior is so bad that it causes b to quit the game and not recommend it to others. C decides to stick around and spends more money on the game while a ends up getting permabanned for consistently poor behavior.

See what happened? A's poor behavior not only got him banned but also drew away a current customer in b and possibly more while c stuck around, follows the rules and gets to spend more money on the game with no fear of getting banned. Not only that but c will most likely advertise for the game as well and potentially bring more people in to play in the process also.

archerno12 votes

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I used the word C-u-n-t

Post chat log.

As for your "i cant support rito anymore". What does that mean? They perma banned you. They dont want you here anymore.

DemiGorx1 votes

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Post chat log.

As for your "i cant support rito anymore". What does that mean? They perma banned you. They dont want you here anymore.

See what i mean about your reaction vs the other guys.. people like you are the true issue.. you came here trying to start a fight instead of talking about it...

DemiGorx1 votes

and i would post log but i already uninstalled league for now

SSJTribe1 votes

should still be in your email

DemiGorx1 votes

thats the thing there is not even an email telling me why i am banned

Paquay2 votes

Actually Tantram made a post a couple of weeks back saying they don't email the chatlogs anymore.

SSJTribe1 votes

Huh... TIL

Paquay1 votes

Til?

SSJTribe1 votes

"Today I learned"

Paquay2 votes

TIL as well. ;)

DemiGorx1 votes

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should still be in your email

Finally got my chat log [17:41] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): dude i have no supp [17:58] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): Maybe if i had a real fucking supp [23:16] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): Our raka is bad and a troll [24:20] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): lol yeah [25:05] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): BUT THEY BANNED SINGLE PLAYER MODS IN GTAV [25:17] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): =] [26:26] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): Only if you report ours [27:19] [All] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): ours was ping god 2017 [27:51] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): i muted his pings [30:40] DemiGorx (Miss Fortune): CAUSE SHE HAD A SUPPORT THAT WAS NOT TAKING CS

23:36] DemiGorx (Xayah): Kid enjoy your 14 day ban [23:57] DemiGorx (Xayah): I FILLED YOU MORON [24:03] DemiGorx (Xayah): i let you all have lanes you wanted [24:11] DemiGorx (Xayah): instead of auto locking [24:30] DemiGorx (Xayah): btw how do you learn champs [24:35] DemiGorx (Xayah): YOU PLAY THEM IN NORMAL

archerno11 votes

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See what i mean about your reaction vs the other guys.. people like you are the true issue.. you came here trying to start a fight instead of talking about it...

How am i the true issue? U said u dont wanna support Riot anymore because they dont want u in their game anymore.

DemiGorx1 votes

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How am i the true issue? U said u dont wanna support Riot anymore because they dont want u in their game anymore.

cause by simply looking at your post history 90% is you flaming people and trying to start fights.... the other people on here are just talking please stop =]

archerno11 votes

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cause by simply looking at your post history 90% is you flaming people and trying to start fights.... the other people on here are just talking please stop =]

U obviously have no idea what flaming means.

DemiGorx1 votes

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U obviously have no idea what flaming means.

i asked you to stop coming back and posting nonsense... again please stop

archerno11 votes

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i asked you to stop coming back and posting nonsense... again please stop

This is public forum and public thread, i can discuss anything here

DemiGorx1 votes

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This is public forum and public thread, i can discuss anything here

until you start flaming like above and harassing .. ( this is the kind of guy that gets people banned... starts trouble.. and continues to argue with you... WTB FORUM MUTE)

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Honestly, it's best to walk away and prevent the situation from escalating. You don't need to make them see things your way.

ModPeriscope1 votes

That is what a permaban means. They feel like your time is better spent elsewhere.

DemiGorx1 votes

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That is what a permaban means. They feel like your time is better spent elsewhere.

but yet my account i have had since season 3 is still fine.. never been banned

ModPeriscope1 votes

They only ban your offending account.

DemiGorx1 votes

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They only ban your offending account.

yeah i am letting you guys know... THIS IS MY only account out of three that was ever banned the other two are lvl 30's

Jo0o1 votes

The c-word is a gendered slur. It doesn't carry the same weight across the entire world (especially in Australia), but in much of the USA it's considered a really bad thing to call somebody.

ScantyXKneesocks2 votes

Just show them a reason to get your account back, I'm sure if you were to tell them you wouldn't use such words again they could put your account on a trial period. Then look over the games to ensure you didn't bad mouth anyone in those games. But if they did do this you'd have to respect a 3rd strike system.

DemiGorx1 votes

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Just show them a reason to get your account back, I'm sure if you were to tell them you wouldn't use such words again they could put your account on a trial period. Then look over the games to ensure you didn't bad mouth anyone in those games. But if they did do this you'd have to respect a 3rd strike system.

I don't even know how to contact them anymore since they took about the Contest bans ... my main account has never been perma-2 week or chat banned ever

Paquay1 votes

You can submit a ticket to player support, however, they will not give your account back on any kind of "trial period" or anything like that. They can check into the ban and if it was done in error can get it lifted.

There is no longer an option coming back from a permaban on a trial or 3rd strike basis.

ScantyXKneesocks1 votes

I would submit a ticket, maybe giving a small plea of sorts. Not, "begging" to get it back. Just apologize or something similar. I wouldn't know how it works, I usually tend to just keep away from typing in chat (Because it requires me to stop playing for a few seconds)

DemiGorx1 votes

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I would submit a ticket, maybe giving a small plea of sorts. Not, "begging" to get it back. Just apologize or something similar. I wouldn't know how it works, I usually tend to just keep away from typing in chat (Because it requires me to stop playing for a few seconds)

found it thanks m8.. still no email on why i was banend so i am assuming its the swear word.. seeing i know that lol

ScantyXKneesocks1 votes

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found it thanks m8.. still no email on why i was banend so i am assuming its the swear word.. seeing i know that lol

Most swear words that have to do with a life threat such as the 3 letter word I wont say, the word you used and the N word. Usually are an autoban. So I don't think those get email reports

DemiGorx1 votes

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Most swear words that have to do with a life threat such as the 3 letter word I wont say, the word you used and the N word. Usually are an autoban. So I don't think those get email reports

ohh cause it said i should have gotten an email.... but i didnt oh well i sent a ticket to see what they say .. like i said i have a lvl 30 account with like 3-4 seasons on it never banned.... I sent them the name of that to show them i don't get banned or slip very often

Minaris1 votes

I believe that Riot is generally very fair with bans, i mean like, how hard is it to not be a jerk?

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