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I got BANNED for this????

SunKenDraven··1 votes·1,222 views

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I told my enemy Wukong to int and I got banned? This gotta be a joke please Riot. Never once did I flame someone. I've never int'd once where I have more than 15 deaths and less than 1 kda I was just pushing the Wukong to int. Why is it that I get banned when I try to win the game? It's the same concept when you get first blood in a solo lane and you type ? Please tell me this is a joke.

PS: I've tried Riot support ticket, they've told me I caused a negative experience to players around me. IVE NEVER FLAMED ANYONE NOR DID I THREATEN ANYONE.

Chat logs:

SunKenDraven: cme this way SunKenDraven: k il b SunKenDraven: bk return to lane SunKenDraven: vel koz SunKenDraven: cmille top SunKenDraven: wtf is camille doing soaking xp SunKenDraven: lol thats a douche bag move by camille to come and soak 3 wave of exp SunKenDraven: get mejai SunKenDraven: dont afk ur gonna get leaverbuster but u can int since riot doesnt do much to inters SunKenDraven: cuz its from experience SunKenDraven: dont say in chat u will int SunKenDraven: just mute every one and int SunKenDraven: cuz riot will ban u if u int and say it in chat u will int SunKenDraven: last acc got perma banned like that SunKenDraven: fk off i int when those jgler come to my lane and stealing xp SunKenDraven: those %%%%s need to learn their lessons SunKenDraven: nah dude only ppl ur ruining the game is for 3 ppl SunKenDraven: lol no if u dont play u will get leaver buster SunKenDraven: its better to just end the game fast and int SunKenDraven: and mute all SunKenDraven: yo wu if u ever said ur inting in chat just say im having a bad game sry guys SunKenDraven: and riot will think ur having a bad game SunKenDraven: nah dude

64 Comments

ModThe Djinn7 votes

those %%%% need to learn their lesson

Crass sexual terms like this aren't allowed, nor is encouraging inting as a good approach for handling bad situations. Nor is using the threat of inting to tell other players to fuck off. The system can, in fact, identify these behaviors.

SunKenDraven1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rjQbLsME,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-20T14:46:29.763+0000)

Crass sexual terms like this aren't allowed, nor is encouraging inting as a good approach for handling bad situations. Nor is using the threat of inting to tell other players to fuck off. The system can, in fact, identify these behaviors.

Lol, what I wrote was '' fucks ''. I just wanted to win the game by using dirty tactics is that wrong? LMFAO are you gonna ban me cuz I said fuck off I didnt know league of legends was a 5-12 age game?

AeroWaffle2 votes

If what you wrote was "fucks" it would have censored it in your post just now. It wasn't "fucks".

Edit: As someone pointed out. It's clear as day in your picture. I probably should have checked that as well.

Jo0o1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

SunKenDraven1 votes

Do you think I wrote everything down word by word? No I didn't I copied pasted were it was censored

AeroWaffle1 votes

Edit:

It's as clear as day in your picture.

Chaotic9032 votes

Literally your screenshot shows you typed a certain word that started with a "C" and rhymes with hunt. LOL why are you even lying about that?

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Negativity1 votes

{quoted}

Do you think I wrote everything down word by word? No I didn't I copied pasted were it was censored

Also since you’re an idiot you forgot to edit the pictures you posted showing the word used I mean. Not all of us are fools. We know you didn’t write down anything because it’s it a copy and paste format from the game hue hue omg pls My uncle works for Nintendo I’ll have him ban u

Jo0o7 votes

"Fuck" isn't censored on the boards. You're a fucking liar.

SunKenDraven1 votes

{quoted}

"Fuck" isn't censored on the boards. You're a fucking liar.

Ive copied and paste it from the logs were it was censored damn your stupid dude

AeroWaffle1 votes

Edit: What you typed there is as clear as day in your picture. And it wasn't "fucks".

Jo0o2 votes

Coupled with the fact that the scroll bar blatantly demonstrates that you're hiding most of the logs, you're clearly being withholding because you know you broke the rules. You're wasting everybody's time, and clearly deserved whatever punishment befell you.

And for future reference, if you're going to insult somebody, it's "YOU'RE stupid", as in "YOU ARE", not "your".

ModPeriscope1 votes

Unrelated: did you see you were quoted in this article about trash talk?

Downside: that article is on EUW for some reason. The real trash talking capital of League.

Jo0o1 votes

Wow, thanks for the link!

ModThe Djinn4 votes

{quoted}

Ive copied and paste it from the logs were it was censored damn your stupid dude

Friendly reminder to step back a bit. We don't want to see insults flying in either direction.

ModThe Djinn5 votes

{quoted}

"Fuck" isn't censored on the boards. You're a fucking liar.

Jo0o? Step it back a bit. Friendly reminder. We don't want to see insults flying in either direction.

ModPeriscope1 votes

True. Ya just gotta prove a point. We don't have to celebrate it.

ModThe Djinn5 votes

{quoted}

Lol, what I wrote was '' fucks ''. I just wanted to win the game by using dirty tactics is that wrong? LMFAO are you gonna ban me cuz I said fuck off I didnt know league of legends was a 5-12 age game?

About halfway down the page in this log you use a crass obscenity for female genitalia that begins with a C. Fuck is allowed in most contexts not used specifically to offend someone, but this word is not. It does not have the same use as the word fuck ("fucking awesome", for example). It is merely used as a thing to call someone when you wish to insult them, and it is a very inappropriate way to do so in League of Legends.

SunKenDraven1 votes

So saying those %%%%s is bannable? I was talking about trolls who come on your lane and steal exp. But you'd rather bash me than actually read what I wrote in the logs. I've used the word %%%% but NEVER did I specify it to anyone in the game e.g; That %%%% Camille.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

{quoted}

So saying those %%%%s is bannable? I was talking about trolls who come on your lane and steal exp. But you'd rather bash me than actually read what I wrote in the logs. I've used the word %%%% but NEVER did I specify it to anyone in the game e.g; That %%%% Camille.

It is, yes. It is needlessly crass and insulting. It is not an insult that is acceptable in League, even when not addressed at an individual. I am aware of how you used it, and I did not comment to bash you -- merely to explain the word you used, and why that word is an issue.

SunKenDraven1 votes

That wasnt even why they reported me, the reason they reported me was because I told wukong to int and they got triggered. Im pretty sure they didn't care when I said those %%%%s and if you dont trust me just check the reports on me. You're just trying to find excuses to defend riot shitty report system.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

{quoted}You're just trying to find excuses to defend riot shitty report system.

Ultimately, the reason they reported you doesn't matter -- your behavior does.

And I'm actually attempting to help you understand the reason for this punishment so that if you choose to make a new account you can avoid having it punished in the future, but you don't have to believe that. Good luck in your future gaming endeavors.

SunKenDraven1 votes

I have every right to tell someone to int as long as it follows the summoner code. Anything can be bannable in your context and appropriation of the summoner code in your logic. Didn't know riot were nazis. Telling someone to int is rude but I still followed the summoner code and thats what mattered.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted}

I have every right to tell someone to int as long as it follows the summoner code. Anything can be bannable in your context and appropriation of the summoner code in your logic. Didn't know riot were nazis. Telling someone to int is rude but I still followed the summoner code and thats what mattered.

Encouraging game-ruining behavior is not in keeping with the sportsmanlike and respectful behavior that the Summoner's Code dictates.

SunKenDraven1 votes

Bla bla bla you guys dont even understand my point of view. Game ruining behavior is way too vague and can be applied to half the things anyone says in a league game. I was sportsmanlike and respectful, I've never insulted anyone. If you're gonna bring '' you said those %%%%s '' please read what I wrote before. I respectfully told my enemy to int is there a problem with that? By your logic, if I wrote gg ez I might have triggered someone and ruin their game and that would be against the summoner code? Come on dude. You know what I did wasn't NEAR to even get me a chat restriction why should it get me permabanned?

AeroWaffle1 votes

Bla bla bla you guys dont even understand my point of view. Game ruining behavior is way too vague and can be applied to half the things anyone says in a league game. I was sportsmanlike and respectful, I've never insulted anyone.

You can't "respectfully" tell someone to break the rules and ruin the game for other players. To do so is to hold no respect for the other players.

If you're gonna bring '' you said those %%%%s '' please read what I wrote before.

Before or after you claimed that the censored word was, "fucks"?

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted}Come on dude. You know what I did wasn't NEAR to even get me a chat restriction why should it get me permabanned?

The crass sexual term alone is enough to get you a chat restriction (possibly an escalated one), and enough behavior that earns chat restrictions earns a permanent ban.

Personally I also consider telling someone else to engage in game-ruining behavior to be punishable as well, even if done politely, but I must admit I don't know precisely how the system judges that.

SunKenDraven1 votes

Ok but was I reported for saying %%%%? No. Nobody cared that I said that what they really cared about was me inciting the Wukong to int. I did it politely and I didn't break any summoner codes so why should I be banned for it? Your opinion doesn't represent the summoner code. A judge can have his opinion but his opinion is not law. What I did was unethical but it followed the code.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}

Ok but was I reported for saying %%%%? No. Nobody cared that I said that what they really cared about was me inciting the Wukong to int. I did it politely and I didn't break any summoner codes so why should I be banned for it? Your opinion doesn't represent the summoner code. A judge can have his opinion but his opinion is not law.

Again, because reports flag games for review, and it problematic behavior is found it is punished. In this case you had language that triggers a punishment. Regardless of the intent of an individual to report you, the discovery of behavior against the Summoner's Code (language usage, in this case) triggers a punishment.

Without a Rioter to weigh in on the second part we'll have to acknowledge that neither of us is fully aware of whether or not the system really considers it problematic.

SunKenDraven1 votes

Put yourself in my shoes, I queue up for a game. I'm willing to win even if it means by using dirty tricks. I see the camille trolling the wukong a bit. I tell the wukong to int so I have an edge on my enemy team. The enemy team gets mad that my strategy work and they report me. It may have been a douchebag move but its completely legal. I followed the summoner code the whole game. I start queuing up for another game. NEXT THING I SEE YOUR ACCOUNT HAS BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

{quoted}

Put yourself in my shoes, I queue up for a game. I'm willing to win even if it means by using dirty tricks. I see the camille trolling the wukong a bit. I tell the wukong to int so I have an edge on my enemy team. The enemy team gets mad that my strategy work and they report me. It may have been a douchebag move but its completely legal. I followed the summoner code the whole game. I start queuing up for another game. NEXT THING I SEE YOUR ACCOUNT HAS BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED.

Fourth rule of the Summoner's Code: Enjoy Yourself, but not at Anyone Else's Expense.

Encouraging someone to int specifically breaks that rule, because it encourages a teammate to break a rule that earns punishment AND encourages him to betray his team.

And, regardless of this, you still had language in your log that violates acceptable chat language.

SunKenDraven1 votes

Remember, taking a jab at your friend in the middle of the game is a lot different than making a glib remark at a complete stranger. Someone who is unfamiliar with what you consider playful may take your comment as an attack and react unfavorably. If two players on a team start fighting, good communication and teamwork become nearly impossible. Once communication breaks down, the likelihood of victory is drastically diminished. It isn't uncommon for simple, good natured teasing to spiral out of control into a loss, so do yourself a favor and don't run the risk of sabotaging your own success.

Did I force him to int? No, I pushed him towards that decision but never did I force him to int. I've never fought with anyone that game. I was just inciting him torwards the decision to int so I win the game. Following your logic, I shouldn't win the game because it might make the enemy mad? I shouldn't kill my enemy because it might make they mad? I shouldn't type gg ez no re because it might make them mad?

ModThe Djinn3 votes

{quoted} I was just inciting him torwards the decision to int so I win the game.

Again, this is the problem, yes.

Following your logic, I shouldn't win the game because it might make the enemy mad? I shouldn't kill my enemy because it might make they mad?

Playing the game to win is part of the game. Encouraging your opponents to take actions that put their account at risk and undermine the integrity of the community is not. There's a distinct difference there.

I shouldn't type gg ez no re because it might make them mad?

You should not, no. The 'ez no re' part is unsportsmanlike behavior that can result in punishment if done frequently enough, as we've seen several times.

SunKenDraven1 votes

Lmfao riot really are nazis remember when Riot Sanjuro said that he bans people who say gg ez I tought it was a joke. Well I guess you guys do too. Why don't you implement it in you summoner code?

Playing the game to win is part of the game. Encouraging your opponents to take actions that put their account at risk and undermine the integrity of the community is not.

But they are the same thing? Both of them are for objectives of winning the game. Aren't you putting a double standard so it can align with your belief?

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted}But they are the same thing? Both of them are for objectives of winning the game. Aren't you putting a double standard so it can align with your belief?

In theory intentionally crippling a opposing teammate in, say, Football is a great way to get an advantage as well. It's not allowed for a reason.

Not everything that CAN help you win is acceptable. In this case, encouraging someone else to take an action detrimental to the enjoyment of their team AND that also puts their account in danger of punishment is not okay.

If you don't agree with that, you're welcome to find another game to play. Otherwise you may find yourself in similar situations with future accounts.

SunKenDraven1 votes

In theory intentionally crippling a opposing teammate in, say, Football is a great way to get an advantage as well. It's not allowed for a reason.

Lmfao did I got to Wukong house and forced him to int at gunpoint? Arent you guys being a bit too tough on this situation?

Not everything that CAN help you win is acceptable. In this case, encouraging someone else to take an action detrimental to the enjoyment of their team AND that also puts their account in danger of punishment is not okay.

Telling someone to afk is also reportable? Why didnt the people who I reported when they said: this is a 4v5 can someone on your team afk and make this fair, arent banned?

If you don't agree with that, you're welcome to find another game to play. Otherwise you may find yourself in similar situations with future accounts.

League is already declining. Fortnite is pretty much gonna take over the gaming scene. When it will I will assure you I will switch.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

{quoted}Arent you guys being a bit too tough on this situation?

You think so. I do not.

Telling someone to afk is also reportable?

I believe so, yes.

Why didnt the people who I reported when they said: this is a 4v5 can someone on your team afk and make this fair, arent banned?

I can't speak for that. Possibly because in-context they weren't actively encouraging it, but I can't really say.

League is already declining. Fortnite is pretty much gonna take over the gaming scene. When it will I will assure you I will switch.

Enjoy. :)

TrulyBland1 votes

You are inciting him towards breaking the rules. How can you not see that this by itself is also against the rules?

Your strawmen really don't matter here. There's nothing vague about this situation. You encouraged others to break the rules for your own personal gain.

TrulyBland2 votes

{quoted}

I'm willing to win even if it means by using dirty tricks.

Didn't you just one post earlier in this chain claim that you were "sportsmanlike"? Using dirty tricks to win, doesn't really scream sportsmanlike to me.

And stop claiming that what you did was legal as a defense to whether you should have been banned for it. That's circular logic at its finest, because the whole crux of the issue is that you were not following the summoner's code when you did what you did.

TrulyBland1 votes

You... um... you are aware that you posted screenshots, right? Like, screenshots that clearly show that you didn't say "fucks"? Edit: Probably should have read more posts before saying this. Guess there are a lot of people who noticed.

Jo0o7 votes

Most of this log is missing. Did you forget to upload one or two screenshots?

SunKenDraven1 votes

{quoted}

Most of this log is missing. Did you forget to upload one or two screenshots?

No that's all there was to the logs

Jo0o11 votes

Dude, there is clearly a scroll bar indicating that you're only showing us the last bit of the provided log. If you're not gonna shoot straight with us, why even bother making the thread in the first place?

AeroWaffle5 votes

Advocating someone to intentionally feed and give them tips on how to subvert the system while doing so? I believe it to be a valid punishment.

SunKenDraven1 votes

{quoted}

Advocating someone to intentionally feed and give them tips on how to subvert the system while doing so? I believe it to be a valid punishment.

You can hate what I did but it does not go against the summoner code. I have not flamed anyone neither did I threaten anyone.

AeroWaffle2 votes

I consider that you broke the code here;

Enjoy Yourself, but not at Anyone Else's Expense "Short is the joy that guilty pleasure brings." -Euripides

Making games is our business, so it should come as no surprise that we want you to have a lot of fun. We want you to get excited, to have tension-filled moments, and to celebrate your success. This doesn't mean that we're okay with you ruining anybody else's day.

Remember, taking a jab at your friend in the middle of the game is a lot different than making a glib remark at a complete stranger. Someone who is unfamiliar with what you consider playful may take your comment as an attack and react unfavorably. If two players on a team start fighting, good communication and teamwork become nearly impossible. Once communication breaks down, the likelihood of victory is drastically diminished. It isn't uncommon for simple, good natured teasing to spiral out of control into a loss, so do yourself a favor and don't run the risk of sabotaging your own success.

and here;

Lead by Example "Leadership is practiced not so much in words as in attitude and in actions." -Harold S. Geneen

If you share our vision of a game where players exercise good sportsmanship, help each other improve and form lasting friendships, you've got to start living the dream before anybody else is willing to do so. It's all well and good to say you're on board for the revolution, but if you don't first make yourself a paragon of model behavior, no one is going to be fooled. Nobody's asking you to be perfect, but we do want you to, whenever possible, strive to uphold the same standards of behavior that you expect everyone else to maintain.

So, remember! Stay positive, remain calm, and keep to the code!

SunKenDraven1 votes

I was positive the whole game , I just suggested to my enemy to int like I would. This is ranked I want to win the game why would I encourage my enemies?

AeroWaffle2 votes

Suggesting that the enemy intentionally feed is not being positive. You are advocating someone else break the behavioral rules for your own personal gain.

That's a red card in my book.

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