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Good players being held back by terrible teammates.

Rainbowscorch·7/15/2016, 1:40:22 PM·4 votes·2,600 views

Since the beginning of my time playing league since 2014, I played a lot of co-op vs AI and I have played quite a few blind pick games as well. After a while of playing the game I adapted the support role as my role of choice (Thresh MY FAVOURITE) and after hundreds of co-op vs AI and a few normal games, I thought i might as well try ranked. Now going in, I didn't expect to be the ultra super mega pro and absolutely dominate the ranked system. I knew that it would take time and there would be time when I would lose, and I did lose quite a lot first time around, so I thought that maybe I was inexperienced and needed time to get used to ranked.

It was around this time I managed to get from unranked to silver and I was happy with the achievement. So after more practice I was pumped for the new season. I reckoned this would be a decent season for me to at least get to gold. After playing unranked for a while I finally got ranked in bronze V, and I had heard horror stories about player getting trapped in bronze forever or "ELO hell". I assumed it was just some mumbo jumbo and proceed to try an climb the ranked ladder. I have recently won my fair share of games, but my god, it doesnt compare to the amount of loses i have gotten.

I have tried and tried and tried and tried and tried. I looked up tips online about carrying as support and have applied them to the game, but no matter what I had done, I still lose. I consider myself as a good support player and a good player for that matter, and yet my teams always sucks. They rage at the smallest things and always play terribly, but for some reason the enemy team plays better than everyone.

I understand this is something I will have to get used to, but tired of people telling me, "But you still get win so what are you complaining about" or "Everyone has bad games it's just how it works". I understand these two things but I can't be mostly have bad games.

I don't know what to think or do about it. But I am open to advice.

(btw I can't share replays just saying)

33 Comments

Getattorex7/15/2016, 1:56:48 PM4 votes

"Good players being held back by terrible teammates."

what a nice way to say "i deserve challenjur but i'm stuck bc of teammates"

venomous frost7/15/2016, 1:50:50 PM2 votes

don't play support play a carry role and champion

EndlessSorcerer7/15/2016, 1:58:07 PM1 votes

If you are that low on the ladder, you'd probably be better off playing champions who are better at carrying the game without relying on their team to follow up. While you may have researched how to carry as a support, that information would likely be based on higher-ELO players' experiences and it wouldn't be directly applicable to Bronze V players.

Rather than CC/utility supports like Thresh, Alistar, Soraka and Janna (who require your team follows up on your plays), I'd recommend you try some more damage-oriented supports. For example, I'd recommend trying Annie, Brand and Vel'koz support.

Those champions are essentially a second mid-laner when they do well, which will let you melt the enemy team when you get fed.

Also, I'd honestly recommend you stop purchasing Relic Shield on Thresh. Your CS is extremely low to the point that it appears you aren't even using the stacks correctly, so you are essentially wasting the item. If need be, just get Ancient Coin so you can get gold for minions dying near you.

Anyways, if you have a 22% win rate in Bronze V, I'd honestly say that's where you belong. It might suck to hear, but you have to accept that before you can really improve.

archerno17/15/2016, 4:07:58 PM1 votes

U die waaaay too much...

Dukues7/15/2016, 4:12:20 PM1 votes

As hellish as it would be I am sure I could carry myself out of bronze playing support rather easily. I would play more carry style supports though. I would also listen to Onastacia and maybe dumb down your plays a bit. If you go super ham and your team is not ready you will probably just die.

At the same time I do recall playing Morgana support once in a bronze game and I could not win the game. I cant remember what my score was but i was like 16-5-20 or something ridiculous. It was clear from the start my adc was worse than a bot, but the enemy bot lane was pretty bad as well. So I just ended up killing them. But my team kept grouping and even with me as support picking people off and killing a couple each fight we would still lose the team fights and eventually lost the game. So... just for sanity reasons I would definitely not try and support out of bronze but rather just play carry roles and have fun stomping some kids.

BlueThingamajig7/15/2016, 6:53:53 PM1 votes

I understand you enjoy Thresh greatly, but have you considered trying other supports? Zyra and Lux are both characters that can get away with building primarily damage items from the support position, and essentially carry without the early game income stream. If you have a friend to duo with, you could play cheesy kill lanes like Pantheon or Rammus.

There was a guy who played pre-rework Poppy as a support/assassin into challenger (Sheen > Sightstone > Trinity, BotRK, Ghostblade).

What I'm trying to tell you is that if you are being held back by bad teammates, you need to take a more proactive role in your games. If your carry isn't worth peeling for, you need to be the carry with whatever champion you are playing. By choosing more damage-oriented champions, you have more flexibility between going for support items or damage items.

Cyst7/15/2016, 7:29:44 PM1 votes

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Since the beginning of my time playing league since 2014

WOW,

2014??????? WHAT SHALL WE DO WE GOT A REAL 'VET' HERE BOYS AND GIRLS! Real PRO

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=150872

Look who I got banned off the old forums by...

Good old ByronicHero (he was upset I made fun of his honey bear http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Miyuki_'Shurelia'_Mitsuhashi

Memories of good old ByronicHero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_6fcq9IggY

League of legends employees that were so toxic that invented the term toxic. Everyone use to drool over this guy.. and that horrible player phreak.

I remember playing once with phreak... (ya he was one of us top 10% ers...) He had to been carried there cause he fed like it was going out of style.

O sorry forgot that all happen decade ago before you were born.

Dominatershot1017/15/2016, 7:36:33 PM1 votes

Bruh its not ur teamates lmao, maybe a few trollers but ur not good and getting held back.

Teslyn7/15/2016, 7:51:47 PM1 votes

how did a OCE guy find the boards? seriously they have trouble finding the nexus and there is a map to help with that.

AraMoOse7/15/2016, 1:57:27 PM1 votes

Look up the Dunning Kruger effect. That is what the real problem is here.