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Premades should not be able to honor each other or it should be more emphasized...

Paint Me Red··1 votes·2,364 views

...that they get less honor for being a premade. I love playing with my friends as much as the next person, but it's not a good experience to be the one person not in the premade.

Or, alternatively, if you're playing with 3 or 4 other people in a premade or two premades, you should automatically get honor.

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zPOOPz2 votes

Why? What if my premade is the most honorable person that game? Sure my honor will not give him anything because he won't gets the normal "amount" as he would from non-premade honor, but it's still nice to show him that I think he's honorable. What if everyone else were toxic that game except for my premade? Why should my choice be to not honor anyone at all or honor a toxic person while my premade remained calm through entire game?

rujitra1 votes

The only thing that premade honors count to is one of the three required for “most honorable on team”. They do not increase the honor level of the player (or if they do, they only very very very slightly do so, much less than nonpremade).

Paint Me Red1 votes

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The only thing that premade honors count to is one of the three required for “most honorable on team”. They do not increase the honor level of the player (or if they do, they only very very very slightly do so, much less than nonpremade).

Yes, that's what I said. It should be more emphasized that this is so instead of the circle jerks they do at the end of every match.

GatekeeperTDS3 votes

Why do you feel entitled to dictate who can honor who whether they are premade or not?

Circlejerks? Bud, you're a stranger to these people, they don't owe you honor or anything else. Being envious of friends honoring friends is a bad look. Painted Green would be more accurate.

Paint Me Red1 votes

There isn't an honor for "Being My Buddy" so I guess I interpret it as being honor for the other reasons they are listed as.

Imperial Pandaa3 votes

Yeah, but if my buddy is getting camped in top/mid and not spazzing out, why shouldn't I be able to give them "Tilt-Proof". Alternatively, if the non-premade(s) is/are being a hobknocker(s), why should I be forced to honor them?

Paint Me Red1 votes

That's a strawman. I didn't say force people to honor non-premades. I said not to allow honoring your premade or to make more emphasis on the fact that they premades get much less honor.

You're also jumping to an assumption that the non-premade is a hobknocker. What if the non-premade and your buddy both do well? Your buddy isn't going to benefit from the honor even without a change.

zPOOPz1 votes

What if the non-premade and your buddy both do well? Your buddy isn't going to benefit from the honor even without a change.

so?? Honoring is a personal choice. Why should it be forced onto the non-premade one?

Paint Me Red1 votes

Again, I did not say force.

zPOOPz2 votes

What if the non-premade and your buddy both do well? Your buddy isn't going to benefit from the honor even without a change.

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I said not to allow honoring your premade

What exactly is the choice here? Either honor the non-premade one or not honor anyone at all? How is that fair to my premade? It's not all about getting that extra honor. It's about the feeling of being appreciated when you get that honor even if it doesn't give you anything.

If 2 people both deserved to be honored and I don't have free will to choose between the two and my only option is just the one. That is my choice being forced.

Paint Me Red1 votes

If the non-premade isn't doing well, don't honor them. If they did well, honor them. I also gave an alternative. Keep in mind... this isn't really a new request. Riot has already lowered honor received for premades to almost nothing. You're acting like it's not an issue when it is an issue that premades just honor each other no matter what happens in the game.

zPOOPz2 votes

to make more emphasis on the fact that they premades get much less honor

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/115008474148-Honor-FAQ

Can I game the system and boost to level 5 by constantly playing with a premade and honoring each other every game?

Nice idea. We had it too. So we specifically built Honor so potential exploits like this give you (and your friend) literally no benefit.


Why do you want to force a choice in who I want to honor? Yes, I said force because I have 4 teammates and you don't want me to have the option to honor whoever I think is MOST honorable. Remember that honoring is a personal choice. Who I THINK is most honorable is my personal opinion much like you have yours. So what if people only honor their premade. That's their choice. Why would Rito wants to force their choice? Either honor non-premade or don't honor anyone even if I think my premade is most honorable.

Just the fact that being honored makes people feel appreciated even if it doesn't contribute much to their honor level. Why would Rito want rob my pre-made of that? I appreciate my pre-made playing with me so I have 1+ less potential for a toxic teammate in my match. Why should I not be able to show that appreciation?

Paint Me Red1 votes

Because they are doing so only for their premade. They aren't honoring the people that aren't premades for the most part.

Riot has already taken steps toward it. I'm just asking that they emphasize it more or all in on the decision and restrict honoring premades at all.

zPOOPz1 votes

Again, honoring someone is a personal choice. If that is their personal choice, then so be it. It should stay a personal choice and not a forced choice.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Part of your spiel is "If they are your premade, no honor for them from you." Sob yes, you are saying honor a non premade or none at all.

Honoring my premade is still better than honoring no one. If i honor my premade then at least EVERYONE gets the little bit honor boost. If I honor no one then no boost for anyone.

It is called an example. Maybe they both do well, maybe they both have a bad game. It is my choice in the end though and if it feels one of my choices is being blocked then I'm more likely to not honor anyone.

The Honor FAQ already says that premade honors are worth less. How much more emphasis is needed?

rujitra1 votes

Well, to be honest, I feel like most people don’t by default honor their premises. As one example, I don’t honor my premade unless I don’t think anyone else deserves the honor in the game. My first choice is always to honor a non premade - and I only honor the premade otherwise to get the “everyone honored someone” bonus.

Juve Homeer1 votes

riot should say hey little clows honor your duo dont gonna count exist games i play perfect and carry but ofc the idiots dont honor me prefer honor is duo who is 1/50*[zombie-brand-clap]*

Paint Me Red1 votes

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riot should say hey little clows honor your duo dont gonna count exist games i play perfect and carry but ofc the idiots dont honor me prefer honor is duo who is 1/50*[zombie-brand-clap]*

Hey dude, sorry, I can't understand what you're trying to say here.

Icy Hot Shoto1 votes

10 times out of 10, my/one of my premade is doing hell of a lot better then everyone else while not being toxic. I'd much rather honor my premade over the other 2 or 3 that were complaining the whole game and not even trying.

Kei1431 votes

That's how it works already.

Plus getting honors in itself doesn't help progress honors much. Having a positive chat and getting team honors bonus contributes much more to honors progress.

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