What is the riot ban system

Dark Mist HS·11/27/2017, 8:22:25 AM·5 votes·6,975 views

SO for the past few hours ive played 4 games and in all of those games ive had bot lane feeding. For 2 consistent games I did not speak anything in the chat or flame them at all. But after the second game when it happened again in the third game I asked them to stop feeding and when we hit the mark that everyone was fed I asked them to ff at 20 mins. They would flame me because I ask them to ff and tell them that they should not feed anymore and play safe. They feed like hell and I try to ask them to group but what they do instead is ask everyone to report me and feed more we end up loosing again and the bot lane reports me after 4 games of my struggle and not flaming them I get a message that I have been permanently banned. I can agree I was toxic few months ago but if u see me now I do not flame and only chat for strategizing but what instead I get is a report for no reason even though I didn't flame or feed and I get the ban . FOR nothing at all. Does riot ban these days just for typing in chat that pls stop the feed and the opponent is too fed so lets just ff ??? I need a proper justification as to why I get ban when I don't flame anymore in chat. Is telling ur team that don't feed offensive now. They report me cuz of telling them that they fed and when I report them they don't get banned . Is this the right way to justify riot ?

74 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram11/27/2017, 8:21:24 PM24 votes

Why did you edit your chat logs when you posted them? Doing so only shows that you understand the things you removed were unacceptable, yet you continued to post that your penalty was not deserved.

zPOOPz11/27/2017, 8:24:49 AM3 votes

can you post your unedited chatlogs so we can get some context on why you were banned?

captaincomando111/27/2017, 5:36:01 PM2 votes

Riot ban system is joke

justsomeloser12/3/2017, 6:58:58 PM2 votes

the problem is that the riot staff for some reason defends the idea that nobody is allowed to ever become frustrated in a video game no matter what the other players do. it is actually insanely pathetic to hold this attitude in a video game with so many players that purposely play against people in their own team and in a game that simply has winners and losers. to punish people for raging in some games in game with winners and losers and insanely many forms of sabotaging players that simply are ignored totally and will never be punished is simply pathetic. i agree that you should punish players for hate speech things because hate speech things to not really have something to do with simply being angry when a player lets you down or a team lets you down.

now people will come and tell me that you are supposed to control your emotions in a game and that you simply do not belong into a game when you are not able to do that. the thing is that this is complete nonsense because every player has a limit. the fact that almost everyone in the community knows that sabotaging games is basically not punished at all leads to players who just want to have nice games into frustration at some point when they continuously run into players who let them down totally for basically no reason at all. you ignore these things for some games. but nobody ignores these things forever.

there is also another terrible misunderstanding to the idea to simply control your emotions and never show anything negative towards anyone. this is a video game. in a video game you want to have emotions and it is simply impossible to demand every dedicated player to never be negative no matter what happens. i find it hard to believe that the riot staff does not want dedicated players in the game but i have to accept it.

i also got permabanned recently for writing trash team a few times in a game in which i had a team that totally let me down and then blamed me or tried to find excuses for me having a terrible game. people who let others down to have a reason to blame them are actually much worse than people who are just angry because letting people in your team down purposely leads to disadvantages for your team.

i want to make clear that i do not think that writing trash team a few times is simply the correct way to go in such a case. now you could say that i already explained that i deserve to be permabanned because i admitted that the things i wrote are not acceptable. and here comes the part why this is nonsense. if i were doing that in every game that i play in which get treated like this i could totally understand that my actions deserve to be punished. but the thing is that i write things like this in less than 100 games and also in this case i certainly did not write anything similar in the 100 games before this game. i just happened to deal with insanely negative players who enjoyed to sabotage over a really long period of time. it was not even really that this was a game in which i got attacked really much or treated insanely terribly. the team certainly was not a nice team that rather looked for excuses to let other players in the team down than to simply play the game. but i basically never have a nice team because i play alone most of the time and then i simply have to endure people who come together to sabotage me and things like that. it was one long period of time of many in which i had to endure extremely negative players who enjoyed to sabotage. the thing was that i simply was at my limit.

now you will say that i must be a toxic player because i must have happened to have had a 2 week ban before and i would never get a 2 week ban without a good reason. i still do not know for what i got the 2 week ban. the games that were listened there together with my comments do not justify any punishment because i was defending myself without insulting other players at best. i totally stopped insulting players and things like that. but simply defending yourself or someone else is not allowed in this game and asking people to play seriously because the game is not over and there is no need to let everyone down because you still see clear chances to win a game are all things that are not allowed. even making calls and explaining where to place wards in order to get important objectives is not allowed because people will be offended when you tell them what to do eventhough it is only in order to win a game. it is all considered as talking down on others. just giving orders when people are not knowing what to do next is considered as talking down on others. all these things lead to frustration for me. that i am simply not allowed to behave like a normal human being in nothing more than a video game with a really negative community leads to frustration for me.

the thing i am trying to say here simply is not that i am allowed to let my frustration out on everyone all the time. the thing i am saying is that it just happens that players let their frustration out on others at some point in the game when they just encountered enough negative actions of this community and that it is a terrible idea to work against this. this is still a game with winners and losers on top of that. in a game with winners and losers you should not expect everyone to act like he is having discussion about a serious topic with others. why would people act like this in a game? why does everything has to be so pathetically serious in this game? why do people who sabotage basically never get punished on the other side eventhough they cause by far the most frustration? why are emotions so terrible in a game? i think there simply needs to be more empathy for emotions in this game. the games take quite some time. the games can be stressful.

i also do not think permabanning is reasonable at all. permabanning players leads to much more angry players who come back and do not hold back at all anymore. that leads to a even worse community. i also think that this is extremely over the top in cases in which people did not use hate speech. i agree that there is no room for hate speech in a single good community. but a punishment like this is so far over the top that it is just not being able to be defended like it is in my case. if you ban me for having 1 angry game out of more than 100 for example then you basically have to ban 20% of the players of your community because definately basically 20% of the players of your community have 1 angry game out of more than 100. why am i banned and why are others not banned is what you could ask now? i am playing alone and often being blamed and attacked and reported by people who come together to play because i am not a part of them. also i am often demanding players to not sabotage when players sabotage other people and so i often write a few things in the games that i play. and now you think that it does not make sense what i write because if i was not such a terrible person then i would not get punished and so i must be a terrible person. but there is one important last part of information that i want to share and that many of the people like me have in common and that explains quite well how the people like me get punished in the end. IN THE END! IN THE END! i am talking about the number of games played and the insane amount of negativity that had to be endured during all these times and the insane amount of people who abused the report system. there are simply so many games played with people who only look to fight their own team in every possible way who abused the report system that eventually you will get punished for something at some point. and when you get punished you are in a place where every tiny thing gets you punished again. you do not need to attack players. you just need to write a few things in a game that are simply related to winning the game and have someone reporting you. and people who play the game much know that there are always players who are reporting people who they did not like to play with because of misunderstandings or simply mistakes that were made in the game or other things like not getting enough attention in a game eventhough it would not even have been useful and things like that. every tiny thing gets you punished when you got into that place.

we are not all in diamond where people actually know how to work around shared information.

we are not all having the nice atmosphere of being in diamond and having people to work around shared information. most of us get told to "be calm" when we try to be helpful with certain things we write. most of us have to "be calm" instead of writing things that can lead to advantages for the team.

i played far more than 10000 games. many people played even far more than 10000 games. but really much more people did not play even close to as many games as i did. are players like me who need 10000 games to get permabanned for ridiculously small things really so terrible or are players like me who get permabanned after 10000 games for ridiculously small things not quite acceptable for the community compared to all the new people who wish "cencar" and death to families in cryptic ways all the time? the people who wish "cencar" and death to families in cryptic ways that are not noticed have many more games to play than people like me needed to get punished. many people like me are not doing all these things. they still get punished first because of often really questionable punishments in the past. who do you want to get punished first? someone who is new or someone who is just a typical player with a huge amount of games?

would you throw someone like me who is postive and encouraging in at least 50% of the games and meaningufully negative in around 1% of the games into the same category like someone who uses hate speech consistently? would you rather have someone like me who is positive and encouraging in at least 50% of the games and meaningfully negative in around 1% in the game than someone who uses hate speech?

i also want to add that i almost never encountered a player that i wished to be permabanned because i think almost nobody in the game deserves to be permabanned given the state the communty is in.

Dark Mist HS11/27/2017, 8:32:45 AM1 votes

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