Getting banned because I support Trump - 2016!?!?

DragonDante·Jun 7, 2016·3 votes·10,409 views

Hello there!

So, it seems I've been suspended until june,20 for asking people to vote for Trump - 2016... and no, I wasn't racist in any way. I didn't receive any e-mails explaining to me why I was suspended. The "worst" thing I've said (which I can remember) is that "Trump will get rid of potheads, meth mouths and imbeciles like Tyler1 (Thanks for banning him, Rito! Hehe xD)". As far as I know, I have freedom of speech to initiate conversations in game, right? As long as I don't troll and play like a normal human being? Thanks in advance, guys! Still waiting on that explanation e-mail!

68 Comments

RiotRiot TantramJun 7, 201622 votes

You don't have chat logs because you weren't banned by an automated system, but by manual review. You need to contact player support.

( and no, you weren't banned for political banter )

DragonDanteJun 7, 20163 votes

Thanks, it's good to know that! But aren't you suposed to send me an e-mail explaining the reasons why I've been suspended?

Troll ArmadaJun 7, 20161 votes

...and yet mods removed my post for some reason. okey dokey.

Fedja profiJun 8, 20163 votes

Riot's punishment system is corrupt and they give special treatment to different players and don't follow their code of ethics.

FreudFromSKAJun 8, 20166 votes

Lmao dude you're sooo salty RN. I've been punished for being a flamer before. Any guess as to what happened when I stopped being an asshole?

SmokedAlmondsJun 7, 20167 votes

I think people are getting ahead of themselves trying to explain why "supporting trump" got this guy banned.

He doesn't know why he was banned, the trump thing is just a guess. And tbh, probably wrong.

OP, if you didn't get an email or there are no chat logs when you login to the game then you need to submit a support ticket to find out the reason.

DragonDanteJun 7, 20162 votes

Thanks! That's exactly what I'm trying to say! I can't log in to my account, so I have no chat logs. I just submited a ticket, hope it works =]

GaleWinUnleashedJun 7, 20166 votes

You have the right to express your thoughts and opinions, yes. That doesn't mean that this is an appropriate setting for such things. We're here to play a game; dragging politics into the mix is not going to make things more fun, and will more than likely cause unnecessary conflict.

Even now, I'm resisting expressing my own political opinion (such as it is) because you've introduced the topic. Please find a more suitable forum if you wish to advocate for or against any political candidate or policy.

o Maui oJun 7, 20165 votes

We might be able to help shed light on the reason for the ban if you could share with us the chat logs that led to the ban. They should be available when you log in to the client.

rtbf69774614Jun 7, 20161 votes

DragonDanteJun 7, 20162 votes

I have no chat logs, since I can't even log in to my account =/ I think it was some leftist employee who decided to suspend me just because I said some truths in-game...

AJStarhikerJun 7, 20161 votes

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I have no chat logs, since I can't even log in to my account =/ I think it was some leftist employee who decided to suspend me just because I said some truths in-game...

Check the email associated with the account, including the junk folder. My next suggestion would be a support ticket, but you said you've already filed one.

Void NargacugaJun 7, 20164 votes

I would like to point something out about Freedom of Speech that a lot of people seem to get confused on. This comes from Ulanopo's Knowledge Base.

Freedom of Speech!!!!!

Doesn't apply. No really. If we're talking about American law, the First Amendment only applies to the government making laws that prohibit speech and, even then, freedom of speech isn't absolute. For example, you can't incite a riot, plan to kill the president or yell fire in a crowded theater.

Also, there's nothing in the First Amendment that protects you from the consequences of your speech. People are fired all the time for making derogatory comments about their employer. My workplace, for example, has a social media policy that says that I can be terminated for badmouthing the company. They don't ask for passwords and access as some companies have been known to do, but it wouldn't be all that difficult to find me on the internet, knowing my real name, phone number and address.

GrashnimJun 7, 20164 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ

You're welcome.

DragonDanteJun 7, 20161 votes

Yes, we all know how Trump is "racist", "sexit" and "anti-Illegals", thank you very much! Very helpful! May Allah, the only and one true god of love, bless you! <3

GrashnimJun 7, 20161 votes

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Yes, we all know how Trump is "racist", "sexit" and "anti-Illegals", thank you very much! Very helpful! May Allah, the only and one true god of love, bless you! <3

I hope Ramadan treats you well!

DragonDanteJun 7, 20161 votes

Masha'Lah Allah, my friend!

DREADN0UGHTJun 7, 20163 votes

I think Trump supporters need a brain check. Freedom of speech, fam.

DragonDanteJun 8, 20161 votes

That's ok, most people usually get upset when good people like us speak the truth. I'm used to it =]

MaQUiNitAJun 7, 20162 votes

This will be the first time I agree with a ban. Trump = racism. Cheers from Latam

Don't build a wall summoner 21

alfavhunterJun 7, 20162 votes

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This will be the first time I agree with a ban. Trump = racism. Cheers from Latam

Don't build a wall

Clearly does not understand the difference of keeping illegal aliens out and trying to kick out legal citizens

Your a citizen? Good you get to stay! You have a green card? You can stay! Not legal in any way shape or form? Good for you, you are stealing money from our country through multiple means that include but are not limited to, not paying taxes, getting health care benefits for free, and driving down the comparative job markets by working for 40% what a position should pay (again this isn't all the issues)

all of these issues from illegal aliens cause inflation in prices in insurance, for both individuals and companies which hurt the job market, which hurts the sales market, which hurts all levels of income but is in direct relations (though isn't the only contributing factor) of the shrinking middle class

I have no issues with law abiding citizens or green card holders, but it's people that are directly stealing from the economy I have an issue with.

Step one to fixing this issue is stopping more from coming in, then deporting those who are not here legally

Ps I didn't even mention a lot of the crimes that have occurs from illegal aliens, ranging from theft to murder

On top of the people who come to live here there are also terrorists that come over illegally (yes legally as well, but they are better tracked because they are tied to a SSN, job, address, name, exc) and getting proper physical protection at our boarders would greatly reduce this risk of terror

So to recap, I am for the wall and deportation of ILLEGAL aliens, people here legally, welcome, I hope you enjoy your stay in the nation of the U S of A, either as a citizen or a green card holder

EvilDustManJun 7, 20162 votes

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Clearly does not understand the difference of keeping illegal aliens out and trying to kick out legal citizens

Your a citizen? Good you get to stay! You have a green card? You can stay! Not legal in any way shape or form? Good for you, you are stealing money from our country through multiple means that include but are not limited to, not paying taxes, getting health care benefits for free, and driving down the comparative job markets by working for 40% what a position should pay (again this isn't all the issues)

all of these issues from illegal aliens cause inflation in prices in insurance, for both individuals and companies which hurt the job market, which hurts the sales market, which hurts all levels of income but is in direct relations (though isn't the only contributing factor) of the shrinking middle class

I have no issues with law abiding citizens or green card holders, but it's people that are directly stealing from the economy I have an issue with.

Step one to fixing this issue is stopping more from coming in, then deporting those who are not here legally

Ps I didn't even mention a lot of the crimes that have occurs from illegal aliens, ranging from theft to murder

On top of the people who come to live here there are also terrorists that come over illegally (yes legally as well, but they are better tracked because they are tied to a SSN, job, address, name, exc) and getting proper physical protection at our boarders would greatly reduce this risk of terror

So to recap, I am for the wall and deportation of ILLEGAL aliens, people here legally, welcome, I hope you enjoy your stay in the nation of the U S of A, either as a citizen or a green card holder

Actually, in California, undocumented immigrants are a large source of income because they pay sales tax and don't receive medical or welfare benefits. They are actually putting more into the system than they get out.

alfavhunterJun 7, 20162 votes

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Actually, in California, undocumented immigrants are a large source of income because they pay sales tax and don't receive medical or welfare benefits. They are actually putting more into the system than they get out.

There are many illegal immigrants that come here with medical conditions, get themselves caught, get treatment, and then get deported

Sure some are bein benefitial, I won't deny that. to an extent however they are not, because they are not paying income tax, Medicare, social security, exc

Sales tax is one tax they pay, but many others they skip out on paying if they are illegal, while some of those illegal aliens are getting free treatment for thier ailments before getting deported because it would be "inhumane" to simply send them back when they need certain treatments to survive, many of which cause an increase to the costs insurance holders have to pay to make up for them

I'm not saying every part of every illegal aliens effect in the economy (or crime, in sure there are illegals out there that have stopped criminals before) is bad for the economy, but the overall effect of them is netted into being bad

On the stand point of the economy, safety (refering to general crime rate), and anti terror our country would be better off without illegal aliens here, and the best step to start at is the wall if it is properly done and not just another funding for "other interest parties"

Do I think the illegals should be thrown out like trash? No, but they should still be deported. In an overall standpoint the lack of control we have of who entered the country is a threat to our countries health (economically) and safety

I value all life, but understanding risk vs reward and ideals vs reality is an important part of making a healthy life style and healthy country

It would be nice if we could have 100% open boarders, but with not only the issues caused by illegal aliens but terror threats like Isis occurring in the world today, we need more security at the boarders, not just for illegal aliens seeking to live here but for terror groups trying to infiltrate our country

Sure there are terrorists that came here legally, but if we don't have secure boarders who is to say for every 1 terrorist we catch that was here legally, there aren't 2 more here illegally, or 5, or 10

Documenting entry helps us understand who came in and what they are doing with thier life's. The more variables we understand the more we can accurately find out how to find and deal with similar situations before they become an incident

MaQUiNitAJun 7, 20161 votes

Funny thing is that I live in Argentine. But I do follow your situation, that will have a big influence in the world. By they way, it's almost in a 3º World War not declared or scalating through proxy nations. (lets arm Saudi Arabia and buy his oil) and fight Daesh. NONSENSE Anyway coming back to the point. I was just being funny. I'm Ok with the policy about kicking ilegal people. Im not OK when he says all Mexicans or Musulms should be forbiden. Thats Nazi. No wall will make you safe. No alarm system will be bulletproof. The only way to be sure, and behave like a human being is stop war, stop bombing innocent people, because that makes new enemies. Can't stop violence with violence. "Terror" is what a bombing creates in other nations too. So, we all should re think who or whom is a terrorist. Propaganda has it's responsabily too. Since they produce or amplify the sense of insecurity. Good luck there, and DONT Vote TRUMP. Hillary isnt a good option, but it's not that bad considering this crazy republican.

summoner 1 your sins son! lol

DragonDanteJun 7, 20161 votes

You may think so, and that's just fine! The problem is that I got suspended for expressing my beliefs in the game, just because I do not want to play with potheads and meth mouths who trash this community and our country. I don't know how things are going over there, but here there are plenty of homeless vets, druggies, leftists and Illegals ruining our country. People who say we are "Nazis" just because they disagree with us suffer from severe mongolism =/

MaQUiNitAJun 8, 20161 votes

well I was jokind dude about the ban. You shouldnt be banned for supporting any candidate although this is not the place for doint that I think. There are others.

But I do think Trump shouldn't even be a candidate. Speaks really bad about the state of the political situation in USA. The whole world is pretty worry about this issue. Not becuase Trump himself, but the power he can achieve in one of the most powerful country in the world.

Good luck

DragonDanteJun 7, 20162 votes

Please, don't try to lecture me about freedom of speech. What I'm saying is that there's nothing in the summoner's code about "talking about polytics while playing". Although I agree it's not the "best" place to discuss about it, It certainly isn't an offense, according to the company's own rules. I also didn't receive any e-mail explaining to me why I was suspended (in which, if it was the case, I could at least adjust my behaviour to suit the community's needs). I don't have the logs, how can I get them?

XyltinJun 7, 20162 votes

But something about annoying 4-9 other players with stuff that they don't care about when they play. You can discuss stuff or ask people if they want to know your opinion but you are probably harassing them and that is bannable.

DragonDanteJun 7, 20161 votes

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But something about annoying 4-9 other players with stuff that they don't care about when they play. You can discuss stuff or ask people if they want to know your opinion but you are probably harassing them and that is bannable.

I didn't harrass them in any way, just said what I quoted above once, then started playing normally... There isn't anywhere in the summoner's code something about prohibiting specific topics to be talked about in-game. I'm sure some dirty leftist Riot employee suspended me without a proper reason, because I didn't even received an e-mail about it.

XyltinJun 7, 20164 votes

"Trump will get rid of potheads, meth mouths and imbeciles like Tyler1 (Thanks for banning him, Rito! Hehe xD)"

Which means you are bad mouthing someone, even when he deserves it. that is something you should not do.

The other thing is that you don't get banned for a single ingame comment. You have to have more dirt or you wouldn't get banned

Void NargacugaJun 7, 20161 votes

Check your spam folder sometimes it ends up there.

Your gonna have to post your chat logs (yes I'm talking all of the ones seen from the in-client reform card). We might be able to help figure out what could have caused it, or if something is not right we would suggest you should send in a support ticket asking for your recent punishment to possibly be reviewed.

Scary DoorJun 7, 20162 votes

If this is a troll post then I must say, congrats : 7/10

If you're serious... You do NOT have "freedom of speech" in an online video game. Your speech is subject to the whims of the administrators of the server for which you are using, in this case, Riot Games. If you were being completely honest, and I have a hard time accepting that given the history of these boards, then I don't necessarily see why you would receive a two week suspension.

However... if you have received a two week suspension then you have almost certainly received punishments before your ban... usually a ten (10) or twenty-five (25) game chat restriction. This means that you have had opportunities to reform your behavior and did not take that opportunity. Once your suspension ends and you continue to exhibit behavior that has lead to your previous punishments then you will likely receive a permanent ban.

While I wouldn't report for political speech in game... some would. This is a video game, most people play games for enjoyment/entertainment or as an escape from the real world for awhile. The last thing most people want to discuss in games are politics. Frankly, I don't want to hear it either... I don't care what your views are, I don't know them, I don't want to know them. Save it for the bar, your social circles or parties, keep it out of gaming, thanks.

TheRealBazJun 9, 20162 votes

well you are supporting racism

DragonDanteJun 9, 20161 votes

I'm supporting racism by saying "NO" to potheads, meth mouths, Tyler1 and Illegals? That's illogic, sorry... Riot can't deny people of playing their game according to what they believe or not.

LintheJun 9, 20161 votes

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I'm supporting racism by saying "NO" to potheads, meth mouths, Tyler1 and Illegals? That's illogic, sorry... Riot can't deny people of playing their game according to what they believe or not.

Keep emailing/contacting support.

I am very curious as to what the reason was and frankly disappointed in Riot Tantram.

DragonDanteJun 9, 20161 votes

I'm also very curious myself, and frankly, would be totally okay if they have a proper reason according to their own rules. I just don't want to have some dumbass leftist employee defecating over me, that's all =/

SmokedAlmondsJun 9, 20161 votes

It has already been stated that the political stuff wasn't the reason. So I'm not sure why you are still talking like this.

OleandervineJun 9, 20162 votes

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I'm supporting racism by saying "NO" to potheads, meth mouths, Tyler1 and Illegals? That's illogic, sorry... Riot can't deny people of playing their game according to what they believe or not.

Actually they can if what you are expressing regarding that belief violates the code of conduct. If you're calling people potheads and meth addicts and imbeciles just here on the boards, or otherwise implying that they are, that's negative behavior and if you do that in the game while hiding behind your political beliefs, you can get flagged as being offensive. Your beliefs have no relevance to being a protective status if you're being callous and aggressive towards people while expressing them.

XyltinJun 7, 20161 votes

First I would say that politics have nothing to do with the game so pls keep that stuff out. I am pretty sure you did it in some aggressive way that annoys people.

About Trump: I can see why people would like him. Charismatic and funny but achieved nothing in his live (except that Trump got enough from his father to at least look lime something). If he handles the US as well as his business than NA will still be great but less great than before him. I see why people would not like you to talk about him or ask people to vote for him while they want to relax and have some fun.

rtbf69774614Jun 7, 20164 votes

Holy crap someone who's not opinionated and brainwashed by the news into hating trump, i thought i was the only one ;0;[zombie-nunu-hearts]

zlumpyJun 7, 20162 votes

...why do people automatically have to be brainwashed if they don't like trump?

rtbf69774614Jun 7, 20161 votes

shhhhhshhhhhhhhhhhhshhhhhhhh its ok now ;3

zlumpyJun 7, 20161 votes

Phew that can of worms was a dud. As soon as I wrote that I regreted it. Riot isn't about political debates....it's about I hate zed and fizz debates!!!

rtbf69774614Jun 7, 20161 votes

IKR!

VekknaJun 7, 20162 votes

You're not the only one. You have the whole KKK on your side.

OleandervineJun 7, 20161 votes

You could have been banned for soliciting. Commercial soliciting, whether it is for political agendas or for business agendas, is usually bankable offense in most games.

Edit: Nevermind.

Shadow HazardJun 7, 20161 votes

Extremely non relevant chat can get booked as spam in chat if you are reported enough. Doing that every game can greatly increase those chances. If that was the "worst thing you said" it clearly means you were spending quite a bit of time spamming chat with your political views. As a general idea if you are doing something that you think you will have to defend yourself for DON'T DO IT.

Nami in BushJun 9, 20161 votes

when rito thinks they've seen it all

Nami in BushJun 9, 20161 votes

Not a surprise a Trump support has been banned for toxicity.

Sailor MoonBallZJul 22, 20161 votes

Riot Customer Support is pretty horrible on all accounts. I have had a technical issue on this account since the beginning of the season and literally no Riot CS takes it seriously. I took this issue to the Better Business Bureau and I am the reason that Riot was moved from a D rating to an F.

http://www.bbb.org/losangelessiliconvalley/business-reviews/video-games-dealers/riot-games-in-los-angeles-ca-1013443

Because Riot has given you no response, its probably safe to say that some simple minded log monkey who thinks their IQ went up magically because they became an Atheist and Liberal, found it Righteous and Absolutely **Just ** to ban you. I find it upsetting that anyone would feel zealous enough to ban someone for expressing a political belief.

Riots to blame for the state of their CS department, they seem to apply their awesome manifest(http://www.riotgames.com/riot-manifesto) to every aspect of their company except their Customer Service Department.

I think Riot as a video game company in terms of Game Play, Passion, and Innovation is cutting edge, courageous, and amazing, but their Customer Support is basically comprised of 20 something intellectually stunted narcissistic idiots who answer tedious tickets from a Que in a delusional attempt to climb a non-existent latter into the company. I know because I was a narcissistic idiot who Game Mastered at Sony Online Entertainment about 5 years ago.

I wish Riot would apply the same ideals they express so beautifully in their Manifest(http://www.riotgames.com/riot-manifesto) to their customer support and legal team. How can a Customer Support Employee live up to these standards expressed in the manifest when they are comprised of 10 dollar an hour temps who have their dreams exploited by a billion dollar corporation.

You might think there is no other choice but for Riot to treat their CS employees like Bus Boys. You might think that Riot has to simply recruit individuals from the Food Stamp line in order to field CS Employees, But Blizzard Customer Support is amazing. Its the Bernie Sanders of Customer Support, extremely delusional and fanatically striving for ideals that can't be reached. But that passion and vigor makes Blizzard Customers feel really appreciated and loved.

I think Riots next round of improvements should be in Customer Support.

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