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matchmaking is just bollocks

Raijin Bokun··2 votes·632 views

ok riot you need to address matchmaking in a big way particularly in normal 5v5 games. auto lockers need to be banned or given a way to report. everyone always forgets by the end of the game and they are the reason I have been locked out of two games today. people cant leave a match once its in the champ picking stage, which is ridiculous when someone auto locks or you run out of time trying to figure out what position is left because half the idiots who play have locked champs without a word or just wont communicate pre match. They ruin games before they have even started and even if you pull out because someone is clearly a bot you get a time penalty which is ridiculous when you cant surrender for 20 min and often a small minority of the team refuses to meaning your in for a long game with no chance of winning ...how the hell riot cant block bots is beyond me and aggravates me to no end. the 5v5 format is great however it does not give room to leave a game that looks like its filled with assholes without incurring a penalty. if you cant fix your community at least fix matchmaking so people don't have to get stuck with the scum who troll and selfishly ruin this game. most matches are decided at team comp particularly if you don't have all 5 basic positions filled, how riot cant acknowledge this fact and act on it is beyond me. ffs enforce a captcha pre game to weed out bots I don't mind filling one out to save the time spent in a game with one asshole just their to farm ip. and have an opportunity to punish those who auto lock please ive played enough games now that I have called gg before even getting into the loading screen and it has come to pass generally at 35 mins when you've tried to surrender for 15 mins and two of your team refuse to accept its over as you have a bot feeding or a Muppet playing along like a fool.

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Iqqi1 votes

Please use paragraphs when posting on the forums. It is incredibly difficult and plain annoying to read huge blocks of texts like this.

Raijin Bokun1 votes

yeah my b first post will tidy it up

TeemoJenkins1 votes

Glad you brought up several points for us to address.

  1. "Auto locking" - it's the responsibility of the humans in the lobby to agree on lanes / positions if you're doing Blind. "Auto lockers" are terms used by kids that can't talk it out, and thereby want Riot to parent other players - not their job.

  2. People that say GG and psychologically give up before the game even loads, but then blame Riot for "not letting them dodge" goes back to the same problem as 1. - Man up, put on your big boy pants, and act like a good human. Sometimes people make picks you don't agree with, your best option is to play it out, don't flame them, or do a passive aggressive whine mode of "GG" less than 5 minutes in and you'll have better games.

  3. Riot Does Not Want To Enforce a Meta. "all 5 basic positions filled". If you're playing Blind - expect the unexpected, that mode is there for crazy lanes to happen, to see what works. Buckle up or play Draft.

Raijin Bokun1 votes

I see your points and I agree with all of them however I think you miss the point and would like to establish.

1: I have never given up on a game I always play till the end but we all know their are some times when we do just spin our wheels and waste time. That being said I have not once whined for a surrender.

2: I don't ask for riot as a parent I ask that we don't have to play with people who display the autolocking kid like behavior. Locking a champ and refusing to talk about it seems silly to me when often players will work around others. my most common call is fill. I just wanna know what holes I'm plugging.

3: I am am open to a new meta however lets discuss it in champ select not force it on your team through stubbornness and their ability to do nothing about it.

4: not yet 30 or I would solely play ranked and a more serious game type.

I don't see how you defend people ruining a game for others. I am speaking of situations which cannot be talked out as people do not respond in chat. The "deal with it" attitude is fine working on the premise that these are all situations that could be resolved by being reasonable adults and discussing a new pre match plan however the behaviour that I want to target is behaviour exhibited by people not entering into a team comp discussion.

Skadeglädje1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Raijin Bokun,realm=OCE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pVUs5Hwl,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-03-08T15:55:25.029+0000) 4: not yet 30 or I would solely play ranked and a more serious game type.

But isn't the normal draft queue available to you? That should solve your champ select problems.

Roaranor1 votes

I don't understand your logic for the first point.

"Auto lockers" are terms used by kids that can't talk it out, and thereby want Riot to parent other players - not their job.

When there's an act of locking in a champion right off the bat and then not giving any communication after, that means that there already isn't anything to "talk out". They've forcefully picked the role/champion they want and you have to deal with what's left. "Auto locking" is a term used by people in general, irregardless of age or maturity, to describe the instance where someone simply locks in the role they want as soon as they can with no attempts to communicate with their team about it. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't even know why you try to equate the term with a particular age group other than as a mindless insult. Not everyone that uses the term thinks it should be some sort of punishable offense. It does, however, goes without saying that just auto locking a role without any effort to communicate even the intended lane you're going (locking in Diana/TP but never saying whether you want mid or top) would be frustrating to someone who is actually trying to communicate and figure out what's left to know where to go. "I'm top" a minute and a half into the game is a little late to tell someone that mid was actually the open role.

I also don't agree that Riot shouldn't make an attempt to resolve it. It is a clear conflict that a lot of players have issues with. They've introduced different queue types such as Team Builder and Dynamic Queue to help alleviate these frustrations, which people are grateful for, but that doesn't mean they can't also band-aid some of the flaws in the older system as well. For example, they could place a 5-10-30 second grace timer following entering champion that players must wait before locking in their role. This would at the very least force a window of communication. Another possible solution would be to force players to select one of the 5 roles via a button in addition to their champion with the role selection automatically being time-stamped and placed in chat. This way players will at least know where the person who auto locked intends to go. Since it's blind pick and meta is not mandatory, Riot would simply need not require that 5 different roles be selected to enter the game. So people who plan to duo top could simply both click top.

Riot doesn't have to do anything, but that doesn't mean that they cannot or should not.

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