I don't agree, am I wrong to?

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Jhinspired,

You have received restrictions following an audit of your recent in-game behavior.

In your recent games, you used in-game chat to create a poor experience for others. As a result, your account has received a number of restrictions. If your behavior does not improve, you will continue to receive more severe punishments eventually leading to a permanent ban.

Keep in mind that there’s no excuse to be rude or hurtful to others. You will find examples of your offending chat logs below:

wanna invade?
wut
ok
vlad want to 2v1 bottom?
and garen mid
lets all 5 go top after blue, fuck their shit
lcs dawg
...
?
jax stop
going to blue was just dumb
no summs ekko
bro they're 2
guys relax
fuck
we're a team
???!
?!
!?!
vlad
no f gragas.
just ff whatever i have work in 6 hours
Only in promos, just go mid as 5 plz
idc anymore, shit like this last game, shit like it again.
blitz and jax alrea bickering
no
just work soon
and wanted to win promos, but these guys just want to invade blue
yeah 1/0 promos
Should be able to win
\ff
we got killed?
i'm not tilted, just realized the game's over and will have to try again tomorrow
i was tilted but whatever, it's out of my control no point
okay
then lets win and stop being toxic
ok
read chat
read chat see jax lol
idk check match history
that's why
i do it
but yeah other than that, keep being toxic.
sorry for saying "lets invade" guys
ok... wut?
you're 0/4...
i'm 0/3?
wtf doesthat even mean
just gonna mute you guys lol
no r thresh vayne or gragas, ignite is down and so is gragas flash
there's another summoner burned on me..
and another ult..
i'm trying to 1v2 guys sorry
just hard when they keep flanking
omw dude..
gj
well blitz is afk, they're probably still raging at me
so idk how to win
i'm gonna try but idk what i can do
oh i was typing "ty"
Guess not
look how cocky they are
blitz just come back dude
plz dude i just want to try for awin
i wasn't intent feeding, i was saving us gold...
taht just sounds troll but you guys know what i mean
yes that
oh hey blitz is back
gj
dragon up soon
jax there are number of things
u wanting me to come blue, was a main one man..
well for one i had to run ALL the way down to bot
from top
now you tell me what's so bad about that...
they hit 2 first and barely won the trade
when we were both level 1
blitz ha dno summs which would have killed the 32 hp vayne
ect
that's an excuse and a damn good one
and ekko
ekko has 11 kills
1 1
feed vlad a penta for mercy
vayne bot
tank war
3 top
kill a thresh and a vyne plz..
no flashekko or gragas
once again
it's not easy
though
it's funny cause you added me like a year ago to play
and we duo'd all the time
my old name was love sex drugs, and you literally sucked my dick back then
but for sure dude
wahtever you say kid
keep invading blue buffs
didnt even have smite
report jax and blitz lol man
these guys
just toxic af
K/D/A doesn't represent toxicity
Language does.
Educate yourself.
and stop raging at everything
lol
^^
lol
you guys need so much everyytime to kill me
Wtf
She has 14 kills on me
On the real, report jax.
Blitz afk'd but at least he stopped raging
do it if it's a real solo i want to see you lose
LOL
"after game"
This guy
bm saves me :D
ty tho vayne :D you the mvp i love you, thanks for being cool<3
vayne no r
#BlackLivesMatteR?
honored
we're starting to hit late
naut top
never just 1
Ever
Ff for me plz
I'm like on my knees ready to suck someone's wiener
gg..

If for whatever reason a game is not going well or another player is being hurtful, remember you should not argue with others or retaliate. Instead, just mute those players; stop talking to them; and report them at the end of the game.

For more information, please log into your account to view your reform card.

Blitz and Jax were raging at eachother all game long, including raging at me. I don't see what i said is bad in anyway, the times I said, "fuck" were to close trades that we lost.

26 Comments

Skere2 votes

Not really agreeing with this ban

7XRyfqVVsJ2 votes

thanks for the input, my friend said the same as Nova, I'm just going to try and keep quiet like I did some time ago and mute the people i find toxic. thanks again guys

ShotHottie1 votes

Sorry that this happened to you. I've been there when you just want to reach through the computer and slap those toxic mofos...but just gotta ignore it...no matter HOW much they might deserve it lol

Linthe2 votes

It wasn't a great chat log... I would have muted you...

But if Tribunal were still up... I would vote Pardon..

So call it a wobbler for me...

7XRyfqVVsJ1 votes

I would really like another opinion, I don't feel I deserved what i was punished for but maybe I'm wrong to think that my words were okay.

ShotHottie1 votes

Truly it wasn't the worst I've ever seen....I think the point they're trying to make is don't engage toxic people? Maybe? At least its not a ban...and the other guys probably got it worse than you did. But, you're right. You weren't all that bad.

Ladayen1 votes

You acknowledged at some point pretty early on that the game was a loss. You should have just kept quiet after that. While nothing was blatantly offensive, you became passive aggressive and only served to frustrate your team further. Keep in mind that the next punishment tier is a 2 week ban.

7XRyfqVVsJ3 votes

{quoted}

You acknowledged at some point pretty early on that the game was a loss. You should have just kept quiet after that. While nothing was blatantly offensive, you became passive aggressive and only served to frustrate your team further. Keep in mind that the next punishment tier is a 2 week ban.

While I agree saying "ff" around 15 minutes is stupid, I'm the guy who usually wants to keep playing it until nexus is at 0. I just wish the other peoples logs were here... I literally was the victim, and just wanted a win, I don't see how wanting to win is being toxic.. I was voicing my mind in a manner I thought was correct and civil. Like other than garen on my team, I was the nicest damn guy in the game man...

7XRyfqVVsJ1 votes

{quoted}

While I agree saying "ff" around 15 minutes is stupid, I'm the guy who usually wants to keep playing it until nexus is at 0. I just wish the other peoples logs were here... I literally was the victim, and just wanted a win, I don't see how wanting to win is being toxic.. I was voicing my mind in a manner I thought was correct and civil. Like other than garen on my team, I was the nicest damn guy in the game man...

And to add one thing, i guess yeah, I was toxic for about 1 minute, when I snapped but that was split between 3 sentences.

XerShade1 votes

Three sentences too many.

Ladayen2 votes

I didn't say stop playing, I said keep quiet. You were not correct and civil. You bitched and were passive aggressive. Very little of what you said had any actually value.

Troll for Trump4 votes

So basically, you're reported if you aren't a saint.

Ladayen1 votes

Over 90% of summoners never interact with the discipline system. If you call 90%+ of people saints then I guess.

Troll for Trump1 votes

That statistic is as false as the one Lyte provided saying majority of players like Dynamic Queue and only 20% dislike it

Ladayen1 votes

Theres tons of data available to back up what he says. You have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

Troll for Trump1 votes

What data?

For the Dynamic Queue survey, he slanted it towards one answer.

Heck, he could say Zed has a 20% WR, and you would suck it up.

Ladayen1 votes

Survey questions are worded in multiple different ways. Different people get a slightly different question.

People much smarter then either of us would love to prove Lyte wrong. Everything he says is highly scrutinized and he has never been proven wrong beyond a small margin of error. The simple fact of the matter is that the vast majority of the player base is perfectly capable of playing the game without being a jerk, and relatively few people actually care about not having solo queue except for a concentrated group at high elos.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Once again, what Data?

Define being a "jerk". What makes a person a "jerk". Because people seem to assume being a jerk means to be a hellspawn who wishes cancer upon everyone, making racials slurs, and etc. The majority of "jerks" are people who aren't even being toxic. People report them and punish them for being "bitchy", "moody" and "passive-aggresive". The slightest things.

and relatively few people actually care about not having solo queue except for a concentrated group at high elos.

Quite the opposite. The lower elos are especially taxed, as groups that try to boost each other stomp the unorganized frenzy that is found in silver and bronze. In higher elos, where players are better, the organized teams are able to sht on their opponent more, as the better players can work even better together, as one.

Ladayen1 votes

Back when the Tribunal was still active it was very simple to match numbers with Lytes claims as every single case was publicly documented. They are very similar to the numbers Lyte claims today. Now we can only compare how many people receive 2 weeks suspensions by comparing data from fansites like lolking or champion.gg and seeing how many people dissappear for 2 weeks then start playing again. Even if we ignore legitimate reasons like vacations and assume every 2 week disappearance is due to suspension, the numbers are very low and are not terribly out of line with Lytes numbers.

When someone takes their problems and make them into problems everyone else has to deal with, I call that being a jerk. This is a game and it should be fun, if you want someone to listen to you call your mom or get a therapist.

That doesn't really make sense though. If lower elo's are trying to boost each other wouldn't they want dynamic queue even more? Again this is a game and should be fun. It's usually much more fun to play with your friends. At high elo you're much less likely to have friends at your skill level, hence the need for a solo queue to maintain balance. Not to mention the risk of running against a team of pros and getting absolutely stomped.

Troll for Trump1 votes

That's back then. Information is outdated.

ow we can only compare how many people receive 2 weeks suspensions by comparing data from fansites like lolking or champion.gg and seeing how many people dissappear for 2 weeks then start playing again.

You forgot to include chat restrictions, ANY past infractions, and permabans.

the numbers are very low and are not terribly out of line with Lytes numbers. Who did the counting?

When someone takes their problems and make them into problems everyone else has to deal with, I call that being a jerk. This is a game and it should be fun, if you want someone to listen to you call your mom or get a therapist.

Alright, I haven't done that, and I've been chat restricted.

If lower elo's are trying to boost each other wouldn't they want dynamic queue even more?

There are more people in lower elos that are solo queue than those who are getting premade boosted. Even less with the "duo queue" rules which prevent people from plat pairing with bronzies.

Again this is a game and should be fun. It's usually much more fun to play with your friends.

And it's unfun to be pubstomped by duo queues who turn out to be assholes. They force you into roles, taunt you all game, or troll. There are nice ones, sure, but many are douches.

Cyndercat1 votes

Going solely by these chat logs I cant really see anything punishment worthy here either other than this;

my old name was love sex drugs, and you literally sucked my dick back then but for sure dude wahtever you say kid

but usually there is a degree of leniency as everyone has bad days.

The only thing I can think of is its the consistency of reports rather than the severity that lead to the punishment and this was just the final straw. There may be other chat logs that played a part in the decision to restrict chat that weren't included but were more toxic.

If you cant think of any games in the past where you were toxic though, Id recommend contacting riot support. Even if they wont unrestrict you, they will give you clarification on which parts of the chat broke the rules so you know for the future.

7XRyfqVVsJ1 votes

{quoted}

Going solely by these chat logs I cant really see anything punishment worthy here either other than this;

my old name was love sex drugs, and you literally sucked my dick back then but for sure dude wahtever you say kid

but usually there is a degree of leniency as everyone has bad days.

The only thing I can think of is its the consistency of reports rather than the severity that lead to the punishment and this was just the final straw. There may be other chat logs that played a part in the decision to restrict chat that weren't included but were more toxic.

If you cant think of any games in the past where you were toxic though, Id recommend contacting riot support. Even if they wont unrestrict you, they will give you clarification on which parts of the chat broke the rules so you know for the future.

Where as the "you literally sucked my D back then" wasn't meant to be toxic, it was meant as I was his, "senpai" in his own mind, I see how that's sexual harassment to some degree and is bannable. saying "whatever you say kid" shouldn't be bannable imo though

Oh also, I was reported several times for my name, I was never name changed through Riot though. :)

Koonta Kintae1 votes

let's see here, verbal abuse, rude toward other players, foul language, negative attitude.

10/10 would ban*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

7XRyfqVVsJ1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Koonta Kintae,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pG9dqUVB,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-03-22T15:57:48.183+0000)

let's see here, verbal abuse, rude toward other players, foul language, negative attitude.

10/10 would ban*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

? I guess.

LITTLE TlMO1 votes

if you use chat regularly, you will 100% end up banned. that is the new system

Elphrihaim1 votes

well if this is the only example of your chat logs given in your card then this seems like it falls under a "Reasonable Frustration" sort of clause that really ought to be extant

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