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what is toxicity? is your feelings>then my time?

R6riderX··4 votes·721 views

so i just played a game where our mid azir was 0-8 before 15 minutes into the game. i told him if you got r4ped the first time and second time what makes you think the 3rd 4th 5th times etc were gonna be any different? i get a reported. so i say in /all chat this azir must have bought his lvl 30 account i get a reported from someone on the other team. so basically anything you say that can hurt another persons feelings you get reported? they can feed,they can waste my time but if i say they dont have common sense i get a reported for toxicity? when im feeding and im getting r4ped and someone tells me 2 learn to play am i supposed to report them for telling the truth??. whats going on in this game? whats this pussy mentality for everything people get "reported". i can see if you are harassing someone for the entire game and being a racist and just an asshole..ok? but for being called a feeder or telling the person to learn to play you get a instant reported back? wtf?.

are all these kids participation trophy kids? with helicopter parents? i don't get it

18 Comments

AraMoOse5 votes

How does your equation make any sense? You would have to spend the time in that game whether you are raging at him or not. As the user Treeofwar said, it's not like raging at the person is going to make them suddenly play better... There is absolutely nothing positive that raging at people will accomplish. Stop doing it and you'll be fine.

scazzman1 votes

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How does your equation make any sense? You would have to spend the time in that game whether you are raging at him or not. As the user Treeofwar said, it's not like raging at the person is going to make them suddenly play better... There is absolutely nothing positive that raging at people will accomplish. Stop doing it and you'll be fine.

Its not that simple . For some people being harsh is a placebo. By riot taking away the ability to vent. Low self control players are forced to bottle up thier rage. Which in turn leads to less toxicity overall. But more severe when it happens

AraMoOse4 votes

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Its not that simple . For some people being harsh is a placebo. By riot taking away the ability to vent. Low self control players are forced to bottle up thier rage. Which in turn leads to less toxicity overall. But more severe when it happens

I don't think Placebo is the word you are looking for here. Let's set that aside.

There are plenty of ways to vent that don't involve raging at people. You could, for example, punch a pillow. Or swear out loud. In fact if you swear out loud in a video game, no one will ever even know you did it. It's sort of like in your car. You can swear at stupid drivers all you like and they will never know. But if you cut them off or try to steer them off the road because they are making you angry, there is a problem.

Damagefox2 votes

People dont learn if you are not allowed to tell them where they went wrong. Azir can feed all he wants, but If you tell him anything other than "you played perfect, way to go feeding that enemy team. Dont change what you are doing!" People are unable to learn. This is that idea that "Everyone is perfect, everyone is special. No one should ever have to feel unpleasant things" So if your team makes an obvious mistake over and over and over again, you try to help them understand where the mistake lies, and you get reported for it because you said something that gave them a not-nice feeling.

Society has become a collection of grown age PRESCHOOLERS who throw a tantrum if someone doesnt validate the special feelings that mommy told them they were perfect.

TrulyBland4 votes

Bullshit. I do tell people how to react better to situations. As long as you are being constructive and not outright insutling, you won't get punished. Sure you sometimes get reported by somebody who is overly defensive... but that won't result in bans.

On the other hand, statements like "azir must have bought his lvl 30 account" in allchat are not constructive and ultimately help nobody. If people don't learn without being told where they went wrong, the focus should be, in fact, to tell them where they went wrong.

AraMoOse5 votes

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People dont learn if you are not allowed to tell them where they went wrong. Azir can feed all he wants, but If you tell him anything other than "you played perfect, way to go feeding that enemy team. Dont change what you are doing!" People are unable to learn. This is that idea that "Everyone is perfect, everyone is special. No one should ever have to feel unpleasant things" So if your team makes an obvious mistake over and over and over again, you try to help them understand where the mistake lies, and you get reported for it because you said something that gave them a not-nice feeling.

Society has become a collection of grown age PRESCHOOLERS who throw a tantrum if someone doesnt validate the special feelings that mommy told them they were perfect.

No one is asking you to tell the azir he is playing perfect. No one is asking you to say anything to the azir.

Are you telling me that the only way you've ever learned anything in league is by people telling you? Are you telling me that you would learn anything from someone accusing you of buying your account?

You need to drop the pre schooler argument. Insulting people to make oneself feel better is much more childish behavior than not enjoying being insulted. Mature adults don't need to rage at people to vent their frustrations, angry kids do that.

DrCyanide6 votes

You can tell someone ways they can improve without being toxic. The player that's 0/8 and just got tower dove for the third time already knows they need to stay safe, is probably tilting, and isn't helped by you yelling at them. Roaming to help them, advising them to come to your lane instead of sticking in their own, or giving them another way to get back into the fight are ways to be productive that don't require you to lie to them and tell them they're perfect.

Honestly, I see those engaging in toxic behavior as the childish bunch. They don't know how to control their emotions or express themselves in a civilized way, instead yelling at others with whatever new word or phrase they heard. I want to play this game with mature players, not players who can't keep themselves in check.

Totalwanabe1 votes

what you consider raging is just stating fact sure the offender get offended by it, no one like criticism positive or negative one. You can sugar coat it all the way you want won't change a thing. you are who you are because you act the way you act. you can't change your own nature you can try to chain it but you will return to your old habit overtime.

THE R4INMAKER v21 votes

When toxicty wasnt being punished so harshly and I could vent out my frustration, it helped me incredibly and kept me off tilt. Now I have to watch everything I say if I dont want to get restricted, which is even more annoying than having a feeder midlaner :D.

Also, basically noone cared what u wrote like 2 years ago, OP has a point that these days people on the interent are just way too sensitive. I mean I saw a thread about wanting people who write "easy" to get immedieately permabanned.

AraMoOse2 votes

Should I direct you to posts from 2 years ago when ragers were coming to complain and saying exactly the same things you and OP were saying?

There are plenty of ways to "vent your frustration" that don't involve raging at people. Get yourself one of those bigass pillows or stuffed animals you can punch. Rage with your voice, write a strongly worded letter to the Times (ok maybe not that last one). Just don't rage at people in chat. It really isn't hard.

TrulyBland5 votes

Ah yes, the good old "participation trophy" argument. Tell me... what exactly would be the analogy here? What is it, that in your opinion should be earned, rather than given for free?

A team that doesn't harass you? Having fun in a game that is meant for fun? Teammates that don't turn to the enemy making fun of you?

Here's the deal: If you're going to suck the fun out of the game, people will report you because they don't want to play with you anymore; simple as that. And since it's in Riot's interest that people actually have fun, they will punish you accordingly.

Treeofwar4 votes

he could have an off day or be playing vs a smurf who is just stomping or maybe just a bad match up iv had those before but you decided upon yourself to bring attention to his score? what does that do? does it make him instantly better or gain skill all of a sudden? you should just not saying anything to harass a player

Dynikus3 votes

{quoted} i can see if you are harassing someone for the entire game and being a racist and just an asshole

Apparently you can't see that, actually. It's really not complicated, if you're a dick to someone and intentionally ruin their experience while playing the game, it's reportable.

xXRaichopXx1 votes

Yeah you are toxic RIP

Targon1 votes

"i told him if you got r4ped the first time and second time what makes you think the 3rd 4th 5th times etc were gonna be any different?" and "i say in /all chat this azir must have bought his lvl 30 account" contradicts "if i say they dont have common sense i get a reported for toxicity?".

Being condescending and telling someone to "learn to play" isn't going to make anyone play better either.

AraMoOse1 votes

Well, let's see. First of all I am capable of stating facts without getting reported.

Furthermore your statements about personal identity are simply wrong. You CAN change. And if a person, for whatever reason, is incapable of changing and is doomed to "stating facts" in such a way that they antagonize people all the time, then they should stop typing in the game. If they can't, they should find something else to do.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

is your mom..that's what toxic means

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