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Unfair suspentions and bans

SKN Shaco··2 votes·1,725 views

After playing a MOBA for 3 and a half years, I met quite a lot of people. Some nice, others... Well, not so much. Of course, I was and still am, somewhat toxic, but every time I insult somebody it's in a way where it's not that offensive, or it makes sense why I'm saying that to that person and I have a reason. (This kind of has something to do with the complaint I'm about to file)

-I was playing Blind Normals with a friend and typed 'mid' in the chat when the champ select popped up, as a way to let everyone know that Midlane is taken. My friend takes Ad Carry and locks Jhin in. I lock in Katarina, and then look at one of our teamates who picked Zed with Flash and Ignite, which suggests a midlane pick, most of the time. I freak out and ask him what's going on. He says he's playing midlane and I say that I picked midlane first. Nothing happens and I tell my friend I'll support him with Katarina, somehow and he agrees. I go into the game and ask people from my team to report him for Grieffing, and all of them agree to do so. He starts writting about how it's not bannable, about how I'm bad at the game and other, good stuff. I continue explaining to him how that stuff is bannable and how it got my account suspended one time. He seems to not care and calls me dumb, or something. I get pissed and start insulting him. My friend and I are not doing very well on botlane because the enemies picked Meta champions, but we're doing our best. The enemy Zed, who's playing against our, before mentioned, Zed, comes botlane and kills me because we had no vision and nobody pinged us to warn us about him. Zed gets upset and calls me a feeder (3/3, at that time), so I call him a "f#cking degnerate" and start pinging him because he died the third time. He says we'll lose anyways and comes botlane and starts intentionally feeding our laners. He explains it as "lagging" and continues rushing bot and feeding the enemy team. At one point he was 1/6, and I was 3/6, or something and so he calls me an inter as well, because I told everbody to report him for intentionally feeding and trollpicking. We continue arguing and the whole team starts flaming him because of how big of an a#shole he was. The end of the game comes, I report him, thinking that's it, Riot's going to to their work and ban him. I accept a game invite from a friend and get notified that a person I've reported has been banned, of course I was happy and proud, but, after I clicked a button to continue playing the game, a new notification pops up and tells me I've been suspended. I log into that account and find that it was Permanently banned...

A reason it wasn't a 14 day suspention was because my friend got one before he game me the account

Please, do something. I know the chat log is borderline, but so is the player's behaviour. I know he got a 14 day suspention, which is unfair. At least make this a suspention, not a ban. Thank you, anyways, Danilo.

19 Comments

Modi6 votes

A reason it wasn't a 14 day suspention was because my friend got one before he game me the account

Well, sharing/trading/selling accounts is against the rules anyway. Given the admission here, my guess is that the account will stay banned.

Kei1436 votes

There isn't any rules in blind pick in regards to draft. Call order is common courtesy but isn't against the rules when not followed.

However, you using that as a starting platform to ask for reports and harass him is certainly against the rules.

If your are escalated to permaban, it means that you either have had a previous history of punishment, or you used hate speech.

Astorine1 votes

Did you read his entire thing? If it is true that he got the account from a friend (not the best option) and it had already been suspended (some friend) than the full ban is unfair.

Geauxx4 votes

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Did you read his entire thing? If it is true that he got the account from a friend (not the best option) and it had already been suspended (some friend) than the full ban is unfair.

  1. Account sharing is against the rules on its own, so that's 1 strike.

  2. The account had previous 14 day ban from original owner so it was already on this ice.

  3. flaming regardless of context is flaming and reportable, and since he accepted a thin ice account, he should accept the thin ice punishment. (he flamed me first so i flamed back) is not, never has been, and never will be an acceptable excuse.

Astorine1 votes

1: This i was unsure of, makes sense, thanks

2: As i said, "friend" giving him a thin account is kinda bad tbh

3: I did imply getting a thin ice account wasn't exactly smart.

The ban is justified if we are counting all of the summoners code, i do accept that. Why so many downvotes though, i was just trying to correct what you said about the op having a history of punishment or hate speech.

Geauxx1 votes

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1: This i was unsure of, makes sense, thanks

2: As i said, "friend" giving him a thin account is kinda bad tbh

3: I did imply getting a thin ice account wasn't exactly smart.

The ban is justified if we are counting all of the summoners code, i do accept that. Why so many downvotes though, i was just trying to correct what you said about the op having a history of punishment or hate speech.

You got so many downvotes because your statement was completely false and ignoring the rules and other facts that have been set since the game's release and that accounts creation.

Astorine1 votes

I was unsure of a single rule... And instead of literally anything else you feel the need to try and attack my comment further. I accept that account sharing makes this bad for the op to partake in.

Geauxx1 votes

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I was unsure of a single rule... And instead of literally anything else you feel the need to try and attack my comment further. I accept that account sharing makes this bad for the op to partake in.

Your entire basis was off that single rule, so it got debunked.

If you felt attacked, that's not my problem as all i did was state the facts on the situation.

Astorine1 votes

Tis not about the feels but the facts, and you are goin at my point.

Either way, the comment also had false information in it (while it is true that account sharing is wrong and the ban is fair, i accept that) and part of my comment was not just basing off of the fairness of the ban, but saying that he did probably not have a history of punishment or hate speech himself. This is due to it seems it's his personally 1st punishment, and that he didn't have a history of hate speech of punishments directly (personally), like Kei143 said.

Geauxx1 votes

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Tis not about the feels but the facts, and you are goin at my point.

Either way, the comment also had false information in it (while it is true that account sharing is wrong and the ban is fair, i accept that) and part of my comment was not just basing off of the fairness of the ban, but saying that he did probably not have a history of punishment or hate speech himself. This is due to it seems it's his personally 1st punishment, and that he didn't have a history of hate speech of punishments directly (personally), like Kei143 said.

And i said, because this IS a fact, it doesn't matter if he himself has no history because the acc(which he shouldn't have in the first place) had previous punishments as the OP said himself.

An acc changing hands doesn't instantly wipe away the accs punishment history. And you have no actual argument considering the OP litterally said his friend (the original owner) got a 14 day ban on it before you every made an initial comment.

I litterally don't know why you're trying to argue at this point.

Astorine1 votes

And i haven't a clue what you are arguing, i say a single thing to try and point out the op himself hadn't any history with hate speech or punishments. I already accepted and pointed out the fact he should have not gotten that account, which you conveniently leave out. /s

Geauxx1 votes

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And i haven't a clue what you are arguing, i say a single thing to try and point out the op himself hadn't any history with hate speech or punishments. I already accepted and pointed out the fact he should have not gotten that account, which you conveniently leave out. /s

Thats, because you said it shouldn't matter because he himself had no previous history... when it does matter.

You seem to just want to save face in whichever way you think you can, so i'll end it here, have a good night/day... whatever time it is for you

Astorine1 votes

You feel the need to have a last word when speaking for me and having no clue what i meant. (Disrespect to the /s) I said that he didn't personally have that history, i never said that by the summoners code that should negate it. Seriously respect the /s (you do understand that is an end to this nonsense?)

Kei1433 votes

Huh?????

Whether he acquires the account from a friend or eBay doesn't really matter. The root cause of his anger is blind pick roles, so I'm going to address that.

That said, the account doesn't miracally drop down to clean slate just because of transfer of ownership. You buy a 2nd hand car, you deal with it's existing maintenance problems, same scenario here.

Btw, account sharing is a permaban offense.

Astorine1 votes

I was unsure that giving your account as a friend was against the summoners code, and i was talking morally unfair to a degree. In compliance with the code a ban is justified.

Hotarµ3 votes

You got gifted an account and (regardless of context) were flaming. I'd say the ban was deserved.

Astorine2 votes

That sucks man, there will be inconsiderate responses around, but all the same getting an account from a friend was an option that seems too unstable take over just levelling a new account.

dnsup1 votes

Uh, I think you just sealed the deal with this post. Pretty sure that "gifting" of user accounts is against the TOU.

SKN Shaco1 votes

Some things I want to adress:

!) So, a champion I'd like to play gets banned in Draft. Okay, no problem. I go to Blind. My role gets unfairly taken and the other person goes along with their day perfectly, making my game experiance worse. Is that not against the rules?

  1. Bascially, I cannot get a gift from a friend of mine that's an account he worked hard on? If that's so, Riot's rules are a joke. and so is the community, I see. Like, I totally understand the trading and selling thing, but gifting? That's insane...

  2. The bot that Riot made to go thru chat logs is dumb. The reason my friend got banned was because a noname person he met in a game told him to write the starting letter of the words 'keep yourself safe', not noticing that he had said 'kys'. The only other messages he said were of no harm and weren't an insult of ANY kind whatsoever

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