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A request on behalf of the Toxic

Adromalec·10/28/2018, 3:39:42 PM·1 votes·2,615 views

Okay so for those of us who ACTUALLY like the game and play competitively and get very Mad when we get ruined, is there a reason why we get banned instead of just permanently muted, lets try a story to show what i mean:

Okay so say a young guy going through a hard time in his life (thus the toxic reactions) puts money into the game he plays to either suport it or cuz he likes a skin and wants it badly enough, say he's a bit careless and has the money and puts like 500+$ in the game then he gets banned permanently because he said the word "stupid" a few too many times (and by few i mean...like 2 times), in that story the young guy is the stupid person for one putting 500$+ in a game and two for saying the word "stupid" but the question remains: Is it fair that 500$+ worth of game content is removed from him for 1 word?

I don't know about you guys but it sure sounds freakin unfair, if I am wrong PLEASE explain.

The guy who got banned for saying "idiot" and "stupid"

60 Comments

ModPrandine10/28/2018, 3:59:26 PM12 votes

Being competitive is no excuse for consistently being a jerk, and competitive players are punished all the time for unsportsmanlike conduct across all sports, including esports, and the amount of money spent doesn't matter either. Permamutes don't work because as Riot found out when they tried it the ones who truly want to just harass their teammates will do so even if chat is taken away, just through a different outlet. As for your case unless you post your entire unedited chat logs then no one is going to believe your claim that you got banned for saying "idiot" and "stupid".

Bottom line: if you can't display sportsmanlike conduct despite being warned multiple times and given multiple chances to do so then you don't deserve to play the game.

Punctual10/28/2018, 3:43:35 PM8 votes

If you get permanently muted, you can abuse pings, troll, and int. Here's a question: Why can't you just be sportsmanlike and control your anger? If you really cared about this game, you wouldn't be negatively impacting it. Also, I doubt you got banned for 1 word. Unless it's a racial slur or homophobic. You probably were passive aggressive or arguing with other players that sways you away from focusing on winning.

Also in IRL, you can't just commit a crime and bribe people to hide the secret. (Pretty sure it has happened before but that's corrupt and, league isn't corrupted so that's why they ban and they don't care about how much money you spent)

BeatzBoyFTW10/28/2018, 4:01:21 PM7 votes

Riot's statement regarding giving perma-mutes:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/wsObUaFj-if-tyler1?comment=00010001000000000000

It really breaks down into two categories.

1.) Helping players reform 2.) Shielding others from the behavior, at a cost.

We used to issue chat restrictions that essentially scaled indefinitely.

We were able to determine that after a certain point the penalty no longer helped with reform. The 10-game and 25-game counts for chat restrictions are based on data that they were both light enough, and felt strict enough to encourage people to understand their behavior is unacceptable in game and change it.

We also saw that the players in this 'large restriction' category defaulted to gameplay altering means of harassing their team. It caused an increase in feeding and trolling.

The sample size of this population and time frame is huge. Essentially the time spanning from the introduction of chat restrictions to the introduction of IFS.

So my question for you is, would you rather have more feeders and less negative chat?

rujitra10/28/2018, 4:38:25 PM3 votes

Yes, because most of you who would have gotten “perma muted” would have simply gone on to give up or troll games when you’re unhappy.

The problem isn’t your chat. The problem is your attitude where you think that making the game worse for others, in any way whatsoever, is okay.

Adromalec10/28/2018, 4:07:52 PM1 votes

Alright so Chat logs it is

Game 1 Pre-Game Cosgoro: lux or namie mel? Cosgoro: nvm In-Game Cosgoro: stupid ez Cosgoro: why where u at red at all Cosgoro: m7? XD Cosgoro: XD that fail was Cosgoro: I have no adc Cosgoro: he is trying to save his heal i guess :/ Cosgoro: no idea why, he coulda saved me and himself there Cosgoro: bot is lost completely Cosgoro: this ez is playing like a baby with no reason to Cosgoro: nice name BTW naut, lets see if it gets u banned Cosgoro: XD i just muted him cuz he's trying to trash me in chat and i saw Cosgoro: not offended just anoyed Cosgoro: if he can get away with that and i cant get away with saying ANYTHING then riot is just as i thought Cosgoro: think ur good? hmph Cosgoro: atleast im playing Cosgoro: this guy doesn't even farm right Cosgoro: reported luci lu Cosgoro: ur right ahri, watching u get smushed was amusing indeed lol Cosgoro: see, im typing that im laughing LOL Cosgoro: and watching u play riven badly Cosgoro: is fun aswell Cosgoro: because you want to win? Cosgoro: sad life luci XD Cosgoro: I do wish u the best though Cosgoro: so sad luci you get fed then just throw over and over under turet Cosgoro: that mush be ur weakness Cosgoro: turets Cosgoro: they are so hard to beat you know Cosgoro: good excuse but not really Cosgoro: and ur both silver 5 at very best cuz u play onetricks, acting like ur better than everyone Cosgoro: salty team much? Cosgoro: who abused you? your little brother? Cosgoro: XD im not a loser I just win backwards Cosgoro: see ur gone get muted after this for calling me trash remember? Cosgoro: muted for insulting a fellow player and have 0 respect Cosgoro: come at me i have 0 fear of anything you guys have to say or do Cosgoro: hahah Cosgoro: if i get muted then this game aint worth it man Post-Game Cosgoro: report em if u dare Cosgoro: with that name your a joke waiting to happen Cosgoro: whole team trying to get me Cosgoro: why make it personal Cosgoro: like REALLY Cosgoro: if he dont get muted for that then what is life Game 2 In-Game Cosgoro: afk garen? Cosgoro: XD this is the dymbest fiddle Cosgoro: XD attack speed and he doesn't even use his skills right and playing ultra agresive Cosgoro: it's fiddle im not one shot yet Cosgoro: ashe jg is the stupidest idea ever Cosgoro: pls go to my lane when ur done yi pls Cosgoro: go my lane Cosgoro: fidle is soft af Cosgoro: ty Cosgoro: XD or me on the enemy team more like Cosgoro: lOL bot Cosgoro: this is what i get for helping Cosgoro: ya'll tryina throw? Cosgoro: feed the tanks GJ Cosgoro: the only ones who can eazy beat me Cosgoro: trolls Cosgoro: report my team lol Cosgoro: rakan is throwing yi is throwing draven is throwing Cosgoro: garen is just not very good Cosgoro: 0 3 bro Cosgoro: XD older than u i bet Cosgoro: then why call me a kid? Cosgoro: lol if only you lived by your trash talk XD Cosgoro: it is Cosgoro: that some noob draven would tell me, the carry that im useless in real life when thats all he is Cosgoro: as do i Cosgoro: XD mad bro? Cosgoro: I called them unhelpfull for not shielding and not helping me. remember on top when u ult one shot me XD Cosgoro: you said "shit' that is toxic Cosgoro: they also called me trash if i recall Cosgoro: why cant u put spaces in there? Cosgoro: is it that hard? Cosgoro: i know what a bad draven is <.< Cosgoro: XD Post-Game Cosgoro: GG garen Cosgoro: u were not a jerk Cosgoro: unlike the rest of the team Cosgoro: <.< cuz ur bad Cosgoro: at Cosgoro: the game Cosgoro: you are playing drav with a solo carry Cosgoro: <3 Cosgoro: dravy Cosgoro: tharapy would do you good dravy Cosgoro: :P Cosgoro: noob Cosgoro: XD Game 3 Pre-Game Cosgoro: dodglords In-Game Cosgoro: XD I saw u Cosgoro: u need to poke or we lose varus Cosgoro: signal me again and ur gona get to solo Cosgoro: I told u not to signal me Cosgoro: he refused to stop spaming me so i left him for 1 minute Cosgoro: Q varus just Q Cosgoro: one good Q and i will stay Cosgoro: LOL Cosgoro: he's just new i guess Cosgoro: not even a little poke Cosgoro: start trying and stop trolling me Cosgoro: im leaving you to lane alone again if you dont start spaming that Q Cosgoro: XD your just genuinly bad at ur job Cosgoro: not even trying to use ur most powerfull skill Cosgoro: Xd fail Cosgoro: more so than u XD Cosgoro: report varus called me a C word Cosgoro: XD sorry btw xayah I just didn't wana fight draven Cosgoro: XD im too low Cosgoro: jabaited Cosgoro: :S original insult atleast Cosgoro: all i can say though Cosgoro: why soh mean Cosgoro: you break this old heart of mine talon Cosgoro: soh fed Cosgoro: XD talon you like that much? Cosgoro: see waht i mean by troll varus guys? Cosgoro: idiots Cosgoro: TALON <3 Cosgoro: XD Cosgoro: dank Cosgoro: :) Cosgoro: I hate him Cosgoro: ;P Cosgoro: wish ur moma de best tally Cosgoro: ez XD Post-Game Cosgoro: XD

All unedited on the first game there was a Nautilus whose name was "N" word (something) which is a bad name to have in a game, and a Lucian who called me a "c" word. and in the secound game which should be a third cuz it was the last game i played My team literally just baked off as i died in a 3v1 so I said they were throwing. in the third one I was playing Shaco sup and i was doin well with a troll varus who didn't use his Q as u can assume and pinged me lik 15 times for literaly nothing also a tallon who was targeting me the whole game.