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"It's just normal"

Stars Shaper··8 votes·1,040 views

Make this reportable.

I'm really tired of trying to do my best for the team failing because 1-2 ppl decided not to care and then reading this mantra because I either asked for help or suggested X to do Y.

I'm not trying to say that ppl should take normal as ranked, but at least try to pur some effort for the sakes of the other 4 ppl playing with you in a game where the objective is to win against the enemy team, no matter if ranked or normal. most of ppl using this phrase are just trying a cheap scapegoat instead of keeping a chill attitude while either saying "ok" or "sorry, I've messed up" or whatever similar. I do it, because I know that my fail will hinder my team. Another use ppl make of "it's just normal" and its variation is as a tool to make ppl tilt, using this passive aggressive attitude to try the patience of the other guy/gal making him/her prone to the use of not-so-chill replies which would be reported as flaming.

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ShinkoMinori3 votes

You clearly haven't played arams "ITS JUST ARAM"

Stars Shaper2 votes

I've seen this too. And ppl use it only when they are itnentionally playing bad.

R7 Factor2 votes

People only really say this when they are already getting flamed for playing bad

Telephone Booth1 votes

[{quoted}](name=NRG Factor,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nWRXMquY,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-11-09T20:16:27.028+0000)

People only really say this when they are already getting flamed for playing bad

I agree. Usually when I see people say "it's just normal" it's because some asshole is flaming and getting all worked up typing too much in chat and ragging on allies' mistakes. So naturally someone's gonna try n chill them out with a "it's just a normal". And it's true. There is no reason to get so upset and insult people for mistakes and for losing lane or whatever.

On the other hand, trolls who are actually trolling because it's a normal are dirty bastards. Normal is not a reason to troll. People still want a competitive match, with a chance to win. I've had a lot of good close normal games and they're the funnest.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

Completely Agree, It's the most negative thing said in the game outside of hate speech.

Never have I seen it used in a positive context and I don't believe there is one. It's essentially saying "I gave up on this game, fuck off". Nothing good has ever come from saying it and has been primarily used to insult people trying to help a struggling game.

GenericNickname1 votes

I think this phrase can have a lot of different meanings. In normals people like to try new stuff, off-role champions, wierd builds and challanges such as Ultimate Bravery. This is what normals are for. You are supposed to be able to do stuff you don't normaly do, play things you don't normaly play. "It's just a normal" is a short way of explaining why they play what they play and how they play it. In normals you have to have even more patience than in ranked because you will encounter wierd stuff, unorthodox plays and so on. Just keep that in mind :)

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

[{quoted}](name=GS DrScrub,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nWRXMquY,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-11-09T20:46:39.728+0000)

I think this phrase can have a lot of different meanings. In normals people like to try new stuff, off-role champions, wierd builds and challanges such as Ultimate Bravery. This is what normals are for. You are supposed to be able to do stuff you don't normaly do, play things you don't normaly play. "It's just a normal" is a short way of explaining why they play what they play and how they play it. In normals you have to have even more patience than in ranked because you will encounter wierd stuff, unorthodox plays and so on. Just keep that in mind :)

Never, and I mean NEVER, have I seen it used this way. I off meta ALL THE TIME in normals. I have NEVER said "it's just norms". It's toxic. Pure and simple. Regardless of whether it's new, or testing it out or whatever it may be you owe it to your team to try your best, work through the issues you are experiencing and help them win. Going into the game to essentially troll them because it's "just norms" is just wrong. Play bots if you want to do horrific things like soraka jungle, play bots if you want to test if a build can do the damage you're expecting, play bots if you need to practice clearing the new jungle. It's not a valid excuse and I believe it's completely toxic to say "it's just norms" when 9 other people queue'd up to play the game and you're holding them back completely because you gave up, don't give a shit or think it's irrelevant whether your team does well and wins. Nine other people are trying more than you when you say "it's just norms". It's toxic if you effect 9 other people negatively. And that's all this phrase does.

GenericNickname1 votes

Today, anythig seems toxic. In what way is "it is just a normal game" toxic. It is, after all a normal game. Who are you to judge if someone is doing their best or not just because they are doing bad the one game you play with them. Normals are for testing stuff for real, playing against bots, anything goes, everything works. Playing bots and winning with Soraka jungle is just not the same as going in to a normal game and winning with it. Normals are for fun, and if you want to practice for raken you are free to do so, how the game goes does not affect your personal skill in any way. You can play your game and let the "it's just norms" guy/girl play his/her game.

There is no way that "it's just norms" is in any way negative or toxic or anything like it. It would be as if me saying "It's ranked" or "I ate meatballs for dinner" being toxic. It is just a phrase. It is a combination of 4 words that states that you are playing a normal game. There is nothing to it. Stop being so easily triggerd instead. If someone joins your game and plays Soraka jungle. What is more fun to do? Flame her the entire game or play along and try to make it work? Being mad over people testing wierd stuff in normals is illogical and you should just get used to it, because this is what normals are made for. If you want an all out serious game, play ranked, normals are for letting off steam and just playing for fun.

Stars Shaper1 votes

play along and try to make it work?

Ofc this is the best solution and I try to ease their work.

The report itself shouldn't account for punishment, it must be checked to see if it was used in a toxic way. It's the same as "GG EZ" and its variations, it's an improper way to justify yourself making it look like "I don't care of the team, I do what I want".

ReadyxPlayerxOne2 votes

[{quoted}](name=GS DrScrub,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nWRXMquY,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-11-09T21:45:26.326+0000)

Today, anythig seems toxic. In what way is "it is just a normal game" toxic. It is, after all a normal game. Who are you to judge if someone is doing their best or not just because they are doing bad the one game you play with them. Normals are for testing stuff for real, playing against bots, anything goes, everything works. Playing bots and winning with Soraka jungle is just not the same as going in to a normal game and winning with it. Normals are for fun, and if you want to practice for raken you are free to do so, how the game goes does not affect your personal skill in any way. You can play your game and let the "it's just norms" guy/girl play his/her game.

There is no way that "it's just norms" is in any way negative or toxic or anything like it. It would be as if me saying "It's ranked" or "I ate meatballs for dinner" being toxic. It is just a phrase. It is a combination of 4 words that states that you are playing a normal game. There is nothing to it. Stop being so easily triggerd instead. If someone joins your game and plays Soraka jungle. What is more fun to do? Flame her the entire game or play along and try to make it work? Being mad over people testing wierd stuff in normals is illogical and you should just get used to it, because this is what normals are made for. If you want an all out serious game, play ranked, normals are for letting off steam and just playing for fun.

I think you're minimizing this to suit your own argument. I would try and help that soraka JG. But it's not cool for them to give up halfway through and say "it's just a normal" and stop trying. The implication of what this phrase results in is why it's toxic. Like almost anything that isn't directly rude. It's like ez at the end of a game or gg when it was a 2v5 with 2 afk's and an intentional feeder or "get good" when they make a reasonably bad play. It's about the result of their words and not just the words themselves. I've never seen them used in a good context.

Shloonz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=GS DrScrub,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nWRXMquY,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-11-09T21:45:26.326+0000)

Today, anythig seems toxic. In what way is "it is just a normal game" toxic. It is, after all a normal game. Who are you to judge if someone is doing their best or not just because they are doing bad the one game you play with them. Normals are for testing stuff for real, playing against bots, anything goes, everything works. Playing bots and winning with Soraka jungle is just not the same as going in to a normal game and winning with it. Normals are for fun, and if you want to practice for raken you are free to do so, how the game goes does not affect your personal skill in any way. You can play your game and let the "it's just norms" guy/girl play his/her game.

There is no way that "it's just norms" is in any way negative or toxic or anything like it. It would be as if me saying "It's ranked" or "I ate meatballs for dinner" being toxic. It is just a phrase. It is a combination of 4 words that states that you are playing a normal game. There is nothing to it. Stop being so easily triggerd instead. If someone joins your game and plays Soraka jungle. What is more fun to do? Flame her the entire game or play along and try to make it work? Being mad over people testing wierd stuff in normals is illogical and you should just get used to it, because this is what normals are made for. If you want an all out serious game, play ranked, normals are for letting off steam and just playing for fun.

The problem is that you probably value ranked more than normals. To me playing normals is the same investment in time, so it matters the same as a ranked. (you can not argue about that cause it's my choice that i value a game by time invested and not LP or some other stuff.) By saying "it is just a normal" you devaluate the time invested which a lot of people might look at as "toxic"... which in my opinion is not toxic but just a different value sytem.

Master Vemira1 votes

Yeah, all assassins got reworked, you're going to see all elo's of people feed as they relearn what champs can and can't do at certain points in the game. For example, I intentionally gave a Talon 3 kills as Yi in first 3 min, so that I can see how hard He snowballs/carries. Turns out, a 1500 gold lead on Talon is worthless now. I ended the game with a 2.0 KDA at 18+ Kills. Particularly I myself am more curious into what all my old assassins can do from behind. So far, Talon is the only one that's straight fucking garbage.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

i dunno, they can say w/e, nobody likes to lose so people usually try to win, sometimes they fail and say it's only normal to comfort themselves

if the team comp looks very bad (like shyv supp + lulu adc that i saw yesterday) i simply dodge and wait for 6 minutes... for 15 minutes at worst

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