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AceprojectX··3 votes·2,469 views

Today i got a 14 day suspension because I was pissed off I had a support that would consistently leave me; Apparently I have unsportsmanlike-like conduct for the first time in 7 years.

That tells me one of two things. That 2 people can get you suspended in a single game, or that people with friends at riot can ban you out flat.

People literally use this system for their own amusement. So Prema-ban me and go fuck yourselves, done with yalls toxic ass community and selfish players.

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Umbral Regent6 votes

Today i got a 14 day suspension because I was pissed off I had a support that would consistently leave me; Apparently I have unsportsmanlike-like conduct for the first time in 7 years.

If this is your first punishment ever, then that means you would've had to be extremely toxic, or have used hate speech or encouragements of self-harm. Most chat-related offenses get a 10-game chat restriction as the first tier of punishment, so for you to have gotten a 14-day ban means you had to have been especially awful.

If you provide the chat logs that were presented to you, we could see what (if anything) could have triggered the escalated punishment.

That tells me one of two things. That 2 people can get you suspended in a single game, or that people with friends at riot can ban you out flat.

Both of these possibilities are wrong. I'm 90% that the majority of the playerbase is of no friendly disposition with Riot (and even then, Riot wouldn't manually ban someone just because a friend said that a person was misbehaving), and two reports have exactly the same weight as one report. Moreover, any report past the first is disregarded.

You got punished because at least one person reported you, and the IFS found you broke the rules. It's not "some guy was butt-buddies with Riot", it's not "I got 9x'ed/2x'ed/mass-reported" - you broke the rules, you got reported, you got punished.

AceprojectX1 votes

I stopped playing Saturday because everytime I got to G4 promos, I get players that are in provisionals or new. However, the ones that end up pissing me off, are the players that are only worried about their own scores over playing a "TEAM GAME" you can be toxic in just your actions over a chat log; which btw I simply stated im done playing cause I got no support, but I kept playing after a minute. I didnt cuss anyone out, I dont speak any differently than I regularly do.

So these guys can "LOL" then get you banned. Naw, going to fortnite, rather deal with kids on mics than deal with Riot's half ass system.

Umbral Regent4 votes

If you're not going to provide your chat logs, then you're really giving us nothing to go by, beyond the fact that you got 14-day banned. So, we can only assume you were punished rightfully (and, again, if this was your first ever punishment, then we can assume you used hate speech, encouraged self harm, or were generally exceedingly toxic).

But, since you're leaving League, I guess it ultimately doesn't matter. Better that you take initiative and leave now than for Riot to have to permaban you. Though, if this is literally just a post of "I'm leaving League for Fortnite" - then there's really no discussion to be had here, and no reason for the post to exist in the first place.

AceprojectX1 votes

I dont know how to get the chat logs, just said I never been banned before.

Umbral Regent2 votes

Log in to the League of Legends Client. You should be presented with a reform card showing your chat log(s).

SyraKen5 votes

Some guy got a 14-day ban for calling someone a child. What you were saying was a thousand times worse, at least.

AceprojectX6 votes

I mean he shouldn't of been banned in the first place. That is retarded.

Perniicious3 votes

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AceprojectX1 votes

In real life people can see and hear me speak so they know that my words may are aggressive and my tone is calm. I dont got a criminal record and I started playing this in the army, and I was much worse back then than I ever am today.

Gloric1 votes

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Baseline, you got pissed. Lost you cool. In a normal society if you lost your cool and attack someone, you would be reprimanded. Nothing changes for a online scenario.

Yes but if 2 guys talk smack, provoke someone, there's a good chance that person will snap and ACTUALLY hurt them, you know, with physical violence, maybe even take their life. The trolls in this game have zero fear factor for their actions while someone typing a few words in response equates to murder according to this system's punishment algorithms.

If you think nothing is different between online and real life interactivity in these situations, you are a fucking idiot lol.

SyraKen2 votes

AceprojectX: janna aint shit AceprojectX: no fuck u AceprojectX: no ur just duo %%%%%%s AceprojectX: shutup AceprojectX: dup %%%s AceprojectX: then why the fuck u up each others asses

Even though the top line could easily be competitive bs'ing which the Riot Tip says is allowed, all of it together... Like, theres this dude getting punished for calling someone a Child, and you think THIS wouldn't get you punished? jeez.

AceprojectX1 votes

I was telling ali janna aint shit, as in her dmg isnt anything for me to be concerned about, only the adc.

However if people get banned for calling someone a child, then I am surpised I lasted this long, oh well, gg, better games await.

Mobile Phone2 votes

dont know what made you think those guys were duoing lol, but yeah "%%%%%%s" and "%%%s" along with just constant whining to them. not much to say about it lol. I'm wondering why did you acting like ali leaving was a big deal when you only died once in lane lol.

P4ppino2 votes

Riot doesn't like ppl who use hate speech so they ban them right away, at least that's what I heard. But that's just the way it is I guess.

Battalion2 votes

Bye, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out; I'd hate to have to burn that door.

[sg-ahri-2]

SyraKen1 votes

Share the log or get out.

AceprojectX1 votes

Game 1 AceprojectX: NA teams are too selfish to beat asians AceprojectX: we got a good dmg spread and cc AceprojectX: i was stationed in south korea AceprojectX: they take gaming as seriously as a real sport AceprojectX: k AceprojectX: wait until im almost dead to do something AceprojectX: ur a tank, u just gotta go to her and stomp her so she cant dmg me AceprojectX: janna aint shit AceprojectX: bitch still had heal AceprojectX: gj AceprojectX: trapped AceprojectX: wanted to kill the ward so they wouldn't chase AceprojectX: because if they cant see us they cant attack us AceprojectX: all u gotta do is dash and stomp and ill ult AceprojectX: doesnt mean they smart AceprojectX: k well AceprojectX: im roaming AceprojectX: ur my support not mid, hes already fed as fuck AceprojectX: keep leaving and they keep fucking attacking and chasing me AceprojectX: bad positioning? AceprojectX: i only die as soon as u take off AceprojectX: i dont have a support so im done AceprojectX: gg AceprojectX: no fuck u AceprojectX: ya wanna play call of duty shit AceprojectX: instead of ur roles AceprojectX: ali is never bottom AceprojectX: done AceprojectX: u want kills so bad then have fun AceprojectX: because i can shove bottom AceprojectX: ur a fucking assassin dude AceprojectX: ur fed as fuck AceprojectX: no ur just duo %%%%%%s AceprojectX: report me for what AceprojectX: when they watch replays AceprojectX: shutup AceprojectX: tired of my support leaving me AceprojectX: someone tell ali what his role is AceprojectX: cause janna is doing hers AceprojectX: dup %%%s AceprojectX: then why the fuck u up each others asses AceprojectX: hes with u more than me AceprojectX: well guess who is responsible for vision AceprojectX: i end up warding more than him AceprojectX: Watch the score AceprojectX: se ethat AceprojectX: they know AceprojectX: as soon as they leave AceprojectX: they wont return AceprojectX: no AceprojectX: too tnaky AceprojectX: should of banned zed and no one could R to win

Im guessing "%%%%%%s" was it. But it'll be a lot more helpful to have the entire chat log rather than just mine cause it doesnt have any clarity to what, why, when.

AceprojectX1 votes

Anyways the problem was my "support" stayed middle with zed majority of the game and no other lanes got any help, and jungle was never bottom but I never said anything to him or top and they was doing the worst.

Umbral Regent3 votes

AceprojectX: ur my support not mid, hes already fed as fuck AceprojectX: keep leaving and they keep fucking attacking and chasing me AceprojectX: bad positioning? AceprojectX: i only die as soon as u take off AceprojectX: i dont have a support so im done AceprojectX: gg AceprojectX: no fuck u AceprojectX: ya wanna play call of duty shit AceprojectX: instead of ur roles AceprojectX: ali is never bottom AceprojectX: done AceprojectX: u want kills so bad then have fun AceprojectX: because i can shove bottom AceprojectX: ur a fucking assassin dude AceprojectX: ur fed as fuck AceprojectX: no ur just duo %%%%%%s AceprojectX: report me for what AceprojectX: when they watch replays AceprojectX: shutup AceprojectX: tired of my support leaving me AceprojectX: someone tell ali what his role is AceprojectX: cause janna is doing hers AceprojectX: dup %%%s AceprojectX: then why the fuck u up each others asses AceprojectX: hes with u more than me AceprojectX: well guess who is responsible for vision AceprojectX: i end up warding more than him

You were punished for a hell of a lot of detrimental arguing, and - bolded - hate speech. If this is how you talk normally, then you've got issues.

This punishment is perfectly just. Riot expects that players should already know full well that hate speech isn't acceptable, so punishments for hate speech are escalated to a 14-day ban as the first offense. As a good rule of thumb - if you wouldn't say it out in public, you probably shouldn't say it in League.

AceprojectX1 votes

What the hell is "hate speech" outside discrimination based insults ?

I never reported anyone in my life for the way they speak; I never report anyone for playing badly, The only time I ever report anyone is intentionally losing the game.

SyraKen2 votes

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What the hell is "hate speech" outside discrimination based insults ?

I never reported anyone in my life for the way they speak; I never report anyone for playing badly, The only time I ever report anyone is intentionally losing the game.

If you've never reported anyone in your life for the way they talk to others in chat then its clear why you dont understand why you were punished for the way you were talking to your teammates.

AceprojectX1 votes

Because I believe in allowing people to say whatever they want, like the country was founded upon.

I never get angry about anyone speaking any way unless they talking about stuff that is not their business (drama) or they get loud with me; other than that, they can say whatever they want, I like honesty, and respect it.

Umbral Regent2 votes

If you Google up "Hate Speech Definition", you get this:

Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender.

And, the boards censors hate speech, so I'm going to guess that the words covered by percent signs start with an "F" and are a homophobic slur.

Frankly, if you are in a military branch, that's a little disappointing, I tend to expect more composure out of soldiers.

I never reported anyone in my life for the way they speak; I never report anyone for playing badly, The only time I ever report anyone is intentionally losing the game.

What you report for is irrelevant.

AceprojectX1 votes

Ok, lets put it this way. South Park hit this one on the head. Most people that say F**, are not attacking gay people, they say either playfully or the same as saying you are a dick, which someone on here already did, by that note, there is already someone on this post that should be banned, but I dont really care.

Umbral Regent3 votes

Using South Park's casual lampooning is a pretty weak defense. The homophobic slur in question is hate speech - you are using it as an insult, you are implying that it is bad or wrong to be homosexual, and you are using that negative connotation to attack and insult people.

There was nothing playful about your usage of it.

AceprojectX2 votes

Maybe not, but also cant be considered hate speech when no one uses it to attack gay people; this is 2018, not 1970, Everyone calls people F names out of annoyance, not out of hate or discrimination. I dont even remember the last time I heard someone call someone gay a %%%. Like, Reality check, which is what south park does, make fun of actual things in the current world.

archerno15 votes

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Maybe not, but also cant be considered hate speech when no one uses it to attack gay people; this is 2018, not 1970, Everyone calls people F names out of annoyance, not out of hate or discrimination. I dont even remember the last time I heard someone call someone gay a %%%. Like, Reality check, which is what south park does, make fun of actual things in the current world.

God help you if you draw moral from south park.

AceprojectX1 votes

People dont watch south park for moral values guy. They watch it cause it makes fun of the things they already know are messed up. It takes a small amount of intelligence to realize that.

ModPrandine2 votes

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Ok, lets put it this way. South Park hit this one on the head. Most people that say F**, are not attacking gay people, they say either playfully or the same as saying you are a dick, which someone on here already did, by that note, there is already someone on this post that should be banned, but I dont really care.

Except this isn't South Park though, this is real life, and that word in particular has a negative connotation around it due to it being commonly used to insult others. If you wish to joke around with those kinds of words then do it in a full premade or private chat, but otherwise keep it out of the public chat. You can get your point across just fine without resorting to hate speech and racist comments.

Also, freedom of speech doesn't apply to privately owned businesses such as Riot Games, nor does it give you freedom of speech consequences either. From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

“Freedom of Speech!!!!!”

Doesn’t apply. No really. If we’re talking about American law, the First Amendment only applies to the government making laws that prohibit speech and, even then, freedom of speech isn’t absolute. For example, you can’t incite a riot, plan to kill the president or yell fire in a crowded theater.

Also, there’s nothing in the First Amendment that protects you from the consequences of your speech. People are fired all the time for making derogatory comments about their employer. My workplace, for example, has a social media policy that says that I can be terminated for badmouthing the company. They don’t ask for passwords and access as some companies have been known to do, but it wouldn’t be all that difficult to find me on the internet, knowing my real name, phone number and address.

AceprojectX1 votes

You mean real life; where majority of kids have single mothers with 2-3 kids by different fathers, then make up stories about how they are the victim; and these kids are raised up to base everything off their feelings and be sensitive to everything, which in reality actually makes them weak. A state like California, whom caters to illegal immigrants while gangs, drugs, and pollution run rampant. In our military, which shows a declining quality in soldiers because they cannot handle stress.

Companies which use policies as another way of saying "we dont tolerate fighting because we can get sued or lose money"

Or the fact that many lawsuits are targeted at loopholes.

Yeah im not out of touch of reality. I know full well about company policies, laws, stock market, and other stastics, I know very well what reality is.

Kulle Aid1 votes

While I'm glad you probably served. gonna guess AF if you were stationed in South korea. If you were in the service I would think you also have some tilt control. Some self control which we show in the services is all you had to do. If you just muted and walked away then o well. It would have been one loss, and you could have just took a break. But you took it a step further to harassing a player, basically. Maybe you learn from this? Maybe you don't care.

Really I don't think its to much. Just get some tilt control. Mute is a button on league for a reason.

AceprojectX1 votes

Most people that report are not really hurt or offended, they just use it to punish other people and get amusement out of it. Thats the reality of the system.

riot's system is like that overprotective mother with a spoiled child who wants to make sure everyone can act anyway they want as longs as they dont hurt people's feelings.

Yes we are taught self control, but not in the competitive scene, aggressiveness is ideal because it makes you more llikely to outdo someone else; In the marines and army anyway, ground troops dont have time for hurt feelings, it gets you killed. So, naturally most people are actually try to make something of themselves or leaders tend to always be aggressive.

Kulle Aid1 votes

I do agree with you in the sense that they are spoiled little pansies, but there is nothing we can do about it. Especially where we have to play by their rules. We cant make our own. In a competitive sense I get what you mean because I'm the same way. But if a Sgt is pissing me off I aint gonna flip. Gonna bite my tongue and do as I'm told and expected of. Personally I kinda do the same here. I just mute and be pissed to myself and stick to my role.

But I do agree with the hurt feelings shit man, look at how our training is changing in the services to fit these little snowflakes into someplace that they shouldn't be.

They did get rid of a report of not playing their role which I think is bs, cause trolls can be fine to do whatever they want.

AceprojectX1 votes

Thats what most laws and regulations for the entire country do as a whole; cover up holes to protect from certain people, but allows the real problems to take advantage of it.

Pika Fox1 votes

Orrrr option 3: <removed by moderation>. 14 day ban isnt a first offense, so either youve had prior punishments, or you did something bad enough to warrant escalation.

AceprojectX1 votes

or I posted the chat logs and yes this is my first ban; actually i started playing in Korea so since 2009 and this is my first suspension, so yeah. Dont assume.

Pika Fox1 votes

I dont need to assume, as you said, you posted the logs yourself.

ModArticus432 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nMVxqiTn,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-05-04T17:51:25.097+0000)

Orrrr option 3: <removed by moderation>. 14 day ban isnt a first offense, so either youve had prior punishments, or you did something bad enough to warrant escalation.

Hey Pika Fox,

I've removed a portion of your comment which violated our Universal Rules on harassment. It is not an appropriate form of discourse or argumentation to stoop to name-calling or harassing other posters.

If you have any questions regarding this action, please reach out to us on the Moderation Discord.

-Articus43

Because I believe in allowing people to say whatever they want, like the country was founded upon.

I never get angry about anyone speaking any way unless they talking about stuff that is not their business (drama) or they get loud with me; other than that, they can say whatever they want, I like honesty, and respect it.

You're well within your right to believe what you wish, but keep in mind that: a) Not really sure what you're getting at with "like the country was founded upon." bit considering NA encompasses the US and Canada.

b) The Bill of Rights, (which is what I'm assuming you're referring to when you mentioned "founded upon", grants citizens protections from the government. It doesn't have anything to do with your use of a privately controlled video game.

c) Everyone here (myself included) are using mediums under the direct purview of Riot Games. We all agree to the same Terms of Use when we go to play League or post on the Boards. In this instance, you are specifically in violation of the Code of Conduct which can be viewed here.

AceprojectX1 votes

I said specifically "I believe in the freedom of speech" in no way did I ever deduce that companies use it.

v. Transmitting or communicating any content which, in the sole and exclusive discretion of Riot Games, is deemed offensive, including language that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially, ethically, or otherwise objectionable

So basically 95% of your player base could be banned at any moment if you actually enforced it; But its up to the players right?

Silent Gravity1 votes

You're using freedom of speech as some strange overarching ideal. It isn't. It's a specific limitation set on the United States Congress.

Thinking that it is more than that is like living in a college dorm and declaring your belief in the third amendment after you've taken all of your roommate's things and thrown them out.

The Third Amendment has nothing to do with sharing dorm rooms with other students.

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

AceprojectX1 votes

I swear people put half effort into reading or understanding before they reply.

ModArticus432 votes

So basically 95% of your player base could be banned at any moment if you actually enforced it; But its up to the players right?

Bold: Well, it's not "my" game or "my" rules. I don't work for Riot. Unless they have a red name, they don't work for Riot. Which is why I said, "we all agree to the same Terms of Use".

And to answer your question: yes, it is up to us whether we get banned or not. You trying to imply that everyone playing League uses language that falls into one of those categories by saying "95% of..player base could be banned at any moment" is not a justification for your attitude. Additionally, even if we took your hyperbole at face-value, it still would not matter considering Riot retains "sole and exclusive discretion" on their means of interpretation and enforcement. You and I agreed to abide by that ToU when we installed League - it was never a secret. If you think the ToU needs adjusting, I'd recommend you reach out to Riot's legal team.

AceprojectX1 votes

I do not have to justify a fact; the fact is; the report system is irrelevant to whether people play or not; if it didnt exist, people would just mute or complain and that would be the end of it. It is purely for legal protection for the company itself. So, I have my own ways of seeing things yes, but I am not ignorant.

For example; almost everything I have said in this post; people have picked specific details and completely assumed the meaning to an entirely different subject. I say 95% not from assuming, but I have played this game long enough to know exactly how other players work. They talk a bunch of shit, or someone is trying to force a lost. Ya'll even have players that made money off your game; talking much much worse than I have in this game; on a live feed on a regular basis and people still watch them.

There has even been times where players that plain out attack people just because, there was even cases of guys beating their gfs ass while still in the game while it streams; technically because the actions were on a 3rd party application and an entirely different country; they cannot be banned because they have done nothing in the game itself outside possibly "defamation" or in other words "making our game community look bad" which is why they put "sole and exclusive discretion" to cover that hole. Interesting to note though; the company that owns Riot Games is in China which is where some of this stuff happened; Tenpenny Games; they also own shares of Epic Games; which their stock has been skyrocketing well pass the $100 mark.

So see, I am well educated on more than just the gameplay, I am a mechanic [Hobby] and investor now. There are plenty of holes to take advantage of if you really want to, I just cant stand when people act like they care about something when they really dont.

See, the funny thing is, you can ban an account; but you will not stop someone from making another account; because what better way to act like you actually give a shit about what people do in game, nope, just a sly way to keep people happy and still make money. That is how every business works.

"We cant ban IPs cause multiple systems could be on that same IP" I think I saw that excuse quite a few years ago, cute, because I would expect if more than one person in your house is playing a game and one of them gets banned but using the same network IP, naturally someone is going to be upset and the situation gets handled internally. "It can conflict with VPNs" Okay and? Most people on a VPN or either overly paranoid or pirating software anyway OR the very few people that do not have a good internet connection use them as a medium between two points.

At this point I do not even care about playing the game anymore; I already said I am done, but I am making it clear. I should of said "I never been banned from ANY game before now" because that is the truth. Trash talking is normal, especially in call of duty, do not see a report system there.

I have never seen a game where people try to make other people try to lose or threaten to report others before League of Legends. The more that you try to make a stand on something, the more people find other ways to go around it, and that is why this game will die off sooner or later, because you try to turn people's outlet and entertainment into a daycare.

Anyways; I'll probably come back to see how someone tries to manipulate what I said but yall have fun with your game.

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