Hey guys,
yesterday I was banned from the forums after I tried to post a missplay of myself. However, the system thought I want to blame people due to specific text segments. If this can happen in the forums, this can also happen in the actuall game. I made a video to document this false positive ban. What do you guys think about that?
Kei1433 votesforums are being modded by a 3rd party company that riot hires, not riot themselves.
Also, a forum ban is not an ingame ban. But if it is serious enough, then it can splash into your ingame account.
also, what you were doing can be seen as name shaming on the forums, which was why your posts were removed in the first place. What you need to do in the future is to black out the names in your video.
Then you are just reposting things, which is spamming.
So far nothing wrong with what they did.
Eloheaven Expat2 votesforums are being modded by a 3rd party company that riot hires, not riot themselves.
Also, a forum ban is not an ingame ban. But if it is serious enough, then it can splash into your ingame account.
also, what you were doing can be seen as name shaming on the forums, which was why your posts were removed in the first place. What you need to do in the future is to black out the names in your video.
Then you are just reposting things, which is spamming.
So far nothing wrong with what they did.
The ban came instantly after I posted the video (and it was removed). That means there is an automatic system behind. I doubt Barry Allen makes some extra money while working as community manager for RIOT.
How can it be naming and shaming when I post a misplay of myself?
Black out names in a video? So we have to remove names of LCS missplays now too? I mean there is not even blame and share because I missplayed my missing a double kill.
How is it reposting (re implies again) when the content is not in the forum yet because I was delete for not reason?
Deep Terror Nami4 votesIf it was immediately deleted, it means a mod just happened to see it instantly and thought you were intending to shame a player. They do not use an automated system.
If the misplays were yours, then make that clear in the title or start of the thread. Mods are human and make mistakes sometimes, so don't make it easy for that to happen.
Eloheaven Expat1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nHrfHbAx,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-20T10:34:34.102+0000)
If it was immediately deleted, it means a mod just happened to see it instantly and thought you were intending to shame a player. They do not use an automated system.
If the misplays were yours, then make that clear in the title or start of the thread. Mods are human and make mistakes sometimes, so don't make it easy for that to happen.
You seriouisly think to much of mods.
Erdrik3 votes[{quoted}](name=Eloheaven Expat,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nHrfHbAx,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-20T18:21:49.386+0000)
You seriouisly think to much of mods.
Yea, that isn't going to help your case.
46104328_DEL1 votesBecause Riot is fucking garbage, and cares so little about this fucking game.
AraMoOse2 votesThis wouldn't be a way to get people to click on your video, now would it? I'm sure you'd never stoop to something so dishonest and despicable.
Eloheaven Expat2 votesThis wouldn't be a way to get people to click on your video, now would it? I'm sure you'd never stoop to something so dishonest and despicable.
Since a have pretty high bandwidth and a pretty fast PC making a video was faster than making screeshots, uploading them individually on some plattform and putting them into a thread.
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SrbLud1 votesWhat you did is textbook naming and shaming...Black out the names of people in your videos/screenshots ( you don't have to on older content, but check with support on how old is acceptable ).
Eloheaven Expat3 votesWhat you did is textbook naming and shaming...Black out the names of people in your videos/screenshots ( you don't have to on older content, but check with support on how old is acceptable ).
I post a video of MY OWN missplay and it's "naming and shaming"?!
FrankerX1 voteswtf? you think because you got "banned" on the boards for name-shame the same can happen ingame?
seriously you seem VERY confused lol
Eloheaven Expat2 voteswtf? you think because you got "banned" on the boards for name-shame the same can happen ingame?
seriously you seem VERY confused lol
If there is a automatic system whose identification algorythms uses specific text patterns to false positively identify negative behaviour an innocent person can also be banned ingame. That's true.
Awkward Couch1 votesI mean, if anything, this seems like self promoting on the League forums. I know things like that get banned from Reddit all the time.
EIven Rope1 votesThe forums are moderated by a company called: Metaverse Mod Squad
Eloheaven Expat1 votes[{quoted}](name=EIven Rope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nHrfHbAx,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-04-19T18:09:35.712+0000)
The forums are moderated by a company called: Metaverse Mod Squad
How does that explain me getting banned 2s after creating a thread for creating the thread?
Wohltat1 votesBtw here is the Video I posted. This way you can see that there is no namin and shaming included.
ModMod Curator1 votesHey Wohltat/Eloheaven Expat,
I looked into your removal and it does indeed seem to have been done in error. This was our mistake and we apologize.
I would end your suspension, but it's already over at this point as it was only a 1 day suspension. Sorry for the bad timing as you posted this on my days off and I'm currently the only visible Moderator in NA.
In that regard, I would like to affirm what Deep Terror Nami stated: we are human mods reviewing posts as they come in and removing some based on the guidelines set forth for us. We do occasionally remove things incorrectly and we always take feedback on that and rectify the situation as best we can when it happens. There is no automated system in place for post removal on the NA Boards.
Again, we're sorry for the inconvenience and you're welcome to create a new post for your video. However, it is more appropriate for the Concepts & Creations section as that is where people can post general clips of their in-game highlights. The Gameplay section is more appropriate for actual discussion of balance, matchmaking, ranked play, the rewards crafting system, and tips for getting better at the game.
Eloheaven Expat1 votesHey Wohltat/Eloheaven Expat,
I looked into your removal and it does indeed seem to have been done in error. This was our mistake and we apologize.
I would end your suspension, but it's already over at this point as it was only a 1 day suspension. Sorry for the bad timing as you posted this on my days off and I'm currently the only visible Moderator in NA.
In that regard, I would like to affirm what Deep Terror Nami stated: we are human mods reviewing posts as they come in and removing some based on the guidelines set forth for us. We do occasionally remove things incorrectly and we always take feedback on that and rectify the situation as best we can when it happens. There is no automated system in place for post removal on the NA Boards.
Again, we're sorry for the inconvenience and you're welcome to create a new post for your video. However, it is more appropriate for the Concepts & Creations section as that is where people can post general clips of their in-game highlights. The Gameplay section is more appropriate for actual discussion of balance, matchmaking, ranked play, the rewards crafting system, and tips for getting better at the game.
Hello TheCurator,
thank you the reply and clearing things up. Is there a way to remove the ban from my history? I do not want to get a 3 day ban next time something happens because I had already a 1 day ban in my forum history.
ModMod Curator1 votes[{quoted}](name=Eloheaven Expat,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nHrfHbAx,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-04-21T21:16:39.617+0000)
Hello TheCurator,
thank you the reply and clearing things up. Is there a way to remove the ban from my history? I do not want to get a 3 day ban next time something happens because I had already a 1 day ban in my forum history.
Since it's already ended, I am not able to force-end/remove it at this point. However, it shouldn't be an issue as long as you don't Name/Shame others going forward. It's only continued violation of the Universal Rules that would result in another suspension to your account.