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Improving the Dodge Mechanicism

flypatch··1 votes·276 views

So I originally wrote this to Riot in a support ticket, because I am tired of this really counter intuitive system in League, that being the dodge mechanic. I'll copy and paste my original ticket that I sent to Riot. Hopefully we can further this discussion into some real change!

"Hi, I am contacting you guys today with an issue I have been having lately in game and a possible idea for a fix. During champ select you get to know a lot about your teammates; how they react to you saying hello, which champions they prefer, and how friendly and sportsman-like they are. It is this last one that I wish to focus in on. You see I am writing this after receiving a 30 minute dodge penalty for dodging a ranked match.

Now in general dodging because you didn't get your role or your champion was banned isn't the greatest moral practice but is a reality and for that I believe the cool downs are appropriate. For instance I dodged my first game today because all my adc's had been banned and since I do not own many champions I could not fulfill my role and therefore dodged. However, my second dodge is where I am having an issue. From the moment I joined my game things did not look good. One guy wrote out which champions we should not ban to which another player patronized him/her for asking us to do that and then proceeded to declare that they (the one who patronized the other player) would feed top and play nunu. To no avail did they decide to lock-in nunu top and proclaim their intention to feed and how we should "prepare for the loss". Well I had no intention of playing with a toxic player, nor did my teammates, so I dodged.

So I beg the question, is it fair that I am the one penalized for the misbehavior of another? Not only did I receive the half an hour cool-down, I was also brought down to -5 lp from 5 lp. You may be wondering by now "well what's your point, why are you writing to us about this?" Well I can assure you that there is indeed a point. Similar to the other systems you have in place to catch toxicity in game, I believe you should implement these same systems to the champ select screen. This is not the first time I have had this issue, and every time after it happens I come out feeling crappy about League Of Legends and don't want to play anymore. My friends and I discussed this before I wrote this and they all agreed, citing that they too have had very similar situations and have come out as the victims instead of the saved. I understand I am only a single player, but I really believe this idea would greatly benefit the health of the community and the game. By lessening the impact of toxic and negative players the League community can grow and prosper and ultimately, play more League Of Legends. Thank you for your time, and good luck to you out on the rift. :)"

5 Comments

AJStarhiker1 votes

You might want to break this into paragraphs. I thought you were talking about dodge as a champion mechanic, not about dodging queues.

flypatch1 votes

ah smart idea!

Butt Ρlug1 votes

Hm i would have dodged too, but i don't really see the issue about "dodge mechanism", it has nothing to do with dodge mechanisms. I think that dodging is a really important part of the game that can help you climb a lot if you do it correctly. Here are some numbers [src]

But what are you proposing ?

  • You can always report those behavior with a support ticket, I'm pretty sure they keep the logs even if the game was dodged. ( because chat logs are only analyzed if you report someone, only LeaverBuster works without reports and so far it has nothing to do with chat logs. )

I mean I'd like to see a way to report those people directly in the launcher, but other than that i don't see how it makes sense with your title "improving the dodge mechanism", i think the dodge mechanism is great as it is, you can't allow people to dodge more without loosing RP it'll be abused a lot, you also can't refund RP if someone was trolling because duos would abuse it.

A lot of people would tell you to play it ! I'm not one of those i think dodging was the good choice. The LP loss isn't that big of a deal ( depending how much LP you loose by defeats (cf links before) in some cases the best choice would be to play it even in that situation ! ). And you can use the 30 minutes to play a game on a smurf, watch a video or something like that.

flypatch1 votes

I see your point, I believe I would like the ability to be able to report a player through or in champ select and then have those chat logs analyzed. From there if the non-offending player dodges they then do not take a penalty. I understand the point about how the tool in general is a great mechanic and I absolutely agree with that, I just think it can be improved upon. Like my title which I have no idea how to edit or change :')

Butt Ρlug1 votes

From there if the non-offending player dodges they then do not take a penalty.

Now this is problematic because it'll be abused a lot, i'm ok to report and punish those players but if you remove the dodge penalty people would abuse it. ( especially duos and especially in high elo )

It's not that hard for a good player to get multiple smurfs in high elo, so let's say that two dudes are making a few smurfs each, like 5/10 on which they climb to about the same elo as their mains, from then they can duo with friends with one of those smurf accounts, if they think that the enemy teamcomp will beat their comp they'll just troll in champ select with the smurf account, and thus remove the dodge penalty on their mains. Once they did that for one main account they'll just switch accounts ( the dude on the smurf will take his own main and the one on the smurf will take one of his own smurfs ) I assume that an account won't be permabanned for trolling once in champ select ( just like other punishments ), they'll have quite some time and they'll be able to do this quite a lot. This would cause an huge unfair advantage for the people that won't do it, because the ones doing it would climb way faster.

I hope this is clear english isn't my native language, but otherwise yeah i think we should be able to directly report this behavior in the launcher.

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