Refund me the money I've spent and I will never play again.

p0rtabldrknz··9 votes·4,944 views

Banned for 14 days. Been playing since 2010.

You banned me for chat problems. If I'm so bad in the chat, refund me the money I've spent in this game, and I'll go away.

When I started this game I had no idea what I was in store for. There is absolutely nothing that will prepare you for the troll that is LOL. You have managed to produce the game with the most toxic community I have ever seen. I don't care what they say. I care about what they actually do in the game. You know, people's actual actions.

I get matched constantly with people on my ignore list, that you as a company feel should just magically take these people off. I report feeders, get matched with them the next game. Then when I log off and back on, you think it's funny to match me with them again. But yes, definitely, please ban me for my mouth. Because potty words are way more important than actually trying to win your game. Keep the feeders and trolls. But please make sure you ban adults that use adult language. Nice touch telling us that a profanity filter isn't an excuse to swear.

Seriously, just give me back the cash I spent. That's all I want. I will leave your game and your psychological abuse alone. I feel you are liable for any bills I incur from this banning. Psychological care being the most important one. I feel like as a company you have engendered an environment where you are using your player base in a social experiment that I didn't sign up for nor care to participate in. The obviously malicious trolling from your company may actually be actionable. Would be interesting to look into.

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The Poetic Zed13 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

PIMPSMOOTH9 votes

{quoted} refund me the money I've spent in this game, and I'll go away. give me back the cash I spent. That's all I want.

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LaoBushido8 votes

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Seriously, just give me back the cash I spent. That's all I want. I will leave your game and your psychological abuse alone. I feel you are liable for any bills I incur from this banning. Psychological care being the most important one. I feel like as a company you have engendered an environment where you are using your player base in a social experiment that I didn't sign up for nor care to participate in. The obviously malicious trolling from your company may actually be actionable. Would be interesting to look into.

is this a joke post?

Void Nargacuga3 votes

Sadly they are 100% serious.

Void Nargacuga8 votes

Not how it works. You agreed to the ToS.

Prior of the Ori8 votes

Wait I have to bring this up quick before I actually go since you keep telling people to read your thread and keep bringing up your ignore function complaint.

Your words: "I don't care what they say. I care about what they actually do in the game. You know, people's actual actions." Than why are you complaining about the ignore function not working if you don't care what they say?

Your words: "You banned me for chat problems." Don't be a jerk and you won't be punished. If they do it to you, ignore them. Remember kids, two wrongs don't make a right! (Argue this and I dare you to post your chat logs)

Your words: "I get matched constantly with people on my ignore list" The ignore function only prevents them from messaging you in the client.

Your words: "I report feeders, get matched with them the next game" You must be one of those guys in-game that rages and proclaims "report this feeder" when ever someone does poorly. Some people just have bad games or get out skilled. It happens to everyone. And to those who do-do it on purpose, usually do it often and do get punished for it, just like you. I have seen it happen.

Your words: "Seriously, just give me back the cash I spent. That's all I want." We all wen't over the TOS, you agreed to it. You aren't getting it back, stop asking.

Your words: "I feel you are liable for any bills I incur from this banning. Psychological care being the most important one." What kind of asinine statement is this?? Psychological care? Was someone more toxic than you and you need help now? Dear lord...

Your words: "I feel like as a company you have engendered an environment where you are using your player base in a social experiment that I didn't sign up for nor care to participate in." It was added into the TOS and you hit accept. You did agree. Next time "do your research" (Read the TOS) if you don't want to be apart of something and than you can hit decline and not play anymore. (The reform system)

Your words: "The obviously malicious trolling from your company may actually be actionable. Would be interesting to look into." What trolling have they REALLY done? Please tell me you have credible evidence because I would love to see it!

Does that just about sum up everything now for you? It's been fun, really. But I will finally be going now. Feel free to rage some more, I am sure it will most likely not help your case.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Good day, sir.

Shonjl6 votes

Not how it works. You spent money volunteerily on the game. You broke their rules and were banned.

No different than if you went to a store and purchased stuff there but next time you showed up you acted so bad they permenently kicked you out of the place, they aren't giving you your money back from what you bought.

Even if you no longer access to your things you bought, they are unrelated to the fact you were bad enough to get banned. The rest of what you said I didn't even bother reading since you can't blame others for your own actions.

lolptwo4 votes

Dude I hate to break it to you, but you have very little knowledge of law or how Terms of Service works. Do you actually think a billion dollar network didn't think of this petty way people would try to sue them. Sorry buddy, you're not that clever. It's ALLLLLL covered in Terms of Service. Riot has a better deal for you. How about , if you be toxic again when you get back, they will take your account, permaban it, not give you ANY money back, and send you on your way. Get it? There's absolutely no winning here and if you try to sue, they will actually bill you for their lawyers when they win with the most simplest Terms of Service copy. It would be a 10min case and close.

SithesisLord4 votes

Banned for 14 days. Been playing since 2010.

And? Time played =/= Higher benefits. What you are entitled to is the same everyone's entitled to. You get to play the game for free.

You banned me for chat problems. If I'm so bad in the chat, refund me the money I've spent in this game, and I'll go away.

Toxicity is your own problem. If you can´t deal with such problem, then by all means leave. Don´t expect your money back though. You spent your money willingly when you bought RP. And according to the ToS, no refunds.

When I started this game I had no idea what I was in store for. There is absolutely nothing that will prepare you for the troll that is LOL. You have managed to produce the game with the most toxic community I have ever seen. I don't care what they say. I care about what they actually do in the game. You know, people's actual actions.

I get matched constantly with people on my ignore list, that you as a company feel should just magically take these people off. I report feeders, get matched with them the next game. Then when I log off and back on, you think it's funny to match me with them again. But yes, definitely, please ban me for my mouth. Because potty words are way more important than actually trying to win your game. Keep the feeders and trolls. But please make sure you ban adults that use adult language. Nice touch telling us that a profanity filter isn't an excuse to swear.

Yes. Unsportsmanlike behavior is punishable, as it should. The feeders aren´t always there to ruin your fun. You know, people do have bad days. And the trolls are being dealt with but seriously...it´s an online game. It´s the internet. Nothing is immune to trolls.

Seriously, just give me back the cash I spent. That's all I want. I will leave your game and your psychological abuse alone. I feel you are liable for any bills I incur from this banning. Psychological care being the most important one. I feel like as a company you have engendered an environment where you are using your player base in a social experiment that I didn't sign up for nor care to participate in. The obviously malicious trolling from your company may actually be actionable. Would be interesting to look into.

Technically you did sign up to it. As many have mentioned the ToS&C. Maybe read it.

TL;DR: You got into trouble for joining the immensely large toxic community that is League. You got into trouble because you can´t keep your fingers quiet. You got banned for being toxic and now you´re being even more toxic by complaining about it.

A little bit of acceptance never killed anyone.

TL;DR, Rude Version: QQ harder.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

{quoted}

You have managed to produce the game with the most toxic community I have ever seen.

Starring, you. Thank you for donating money from your own will as a penalty fee :)

Prior of the Ori1 votes

{quoted}

Starring, you. Thank you for donating money from your own will as a penalty fee :)

Fantastic! :)

Prior of the Ori2 votes

He must have been banned by now. lol.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

{quoted}

Only post I will reply to anymore is a red. I hope their reading comprehension skills are better than you lot.

No, just being someone who won't listen unless its a RIOTER, who will say exactly the same thing that everyone else has already told him.

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

TOS does not state taht you will be part of a psychological experiment on a mass basis. I did not sign up for that.

themachamp3 votes

That is kinda true...they do run a lot of "experiments" and some unlucky souls get to be the 1st guinea pigs =/

maxaroni1187 votes

im pretty sure if u read ToS&C you will find a part where it says they won't refund any money spent so quit wasting your time

also 14 days is not too bad... if u want to rub it in their faces, just play smite (or dota... LoL hates both)

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

{quoted}

im pretty sure if u read ToS&C you will find a part where it says they won't refund any money spent so quit wasting your time

There are other actions I can take if they don't refund my cash.

I can make it my life's mission to ruin other people's experience with their game. I can make multiple accounts, get them to 30 and ruin the experiences of more of their players. Then post said results on youtube. I'm sure their players would appreciate that. I could then track down the social media accounts of said players and then post the videos to them.

I believe I'm actually being reasonable.

maxaroni1184 votes

i feel like ur just being salty about being banned... honestly its not too much of a big deal. like i said, its only 14 days. i have been banned for a month before and i just went to play another game. you need to drink some tea and relax dude believe me i have spent a considerable amount of money on this game too... i bet i have more champs and skins than you do

Shonjl3 votes

No, there isn't any actions you can do, so stop being stupid. In the ToS it says they can kick you out of their game without reason and all purchases are final(with very rare exceptions)

Before trying to act like another idiot that says they will sue Riot, actually inform yourself to how silly you sound when you have no grounds to stand on.

Also seriously, do what you threaten to do. Look how stupid you will look. Wasting so much time over something so trivial, being so easily ignored, and best part is if you go overboard and it becomes stalking, how quick you will be to get traced and then see who laughs.

Just accept you fked up and either learn or leave. That is your only options.

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

{quoted}

im pretty sure if u read ToS&C you will find a part where it says they won't refund any money spent so quit wasting your time

also 14 days is not too bad... if u want to rub it in their faces, just play smite (or dota... LoL hates both)

I shouldn't have to rub anything in anyone's faces. We should be able to be adults here.

LukeTheSheppy9 votes

{quoted}

I shouldn't have to rub anything in anyone's faces. We should be able to be adults here.

We should, but then you decided to act like an impudent child.

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

And before they try to ban me from teh forums too....http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/myopic

TrulyBland4 votes

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And before they try to ban me from teh forums too....http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/myopic

Starting to understand how that ban might have come to be... For some context: http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/condescending

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

It's also a case study in how Riot is trying to shape player behavior reading some of the responses in this thread.

I'm not happy with the service I'm being provided. This is the only option of contacting Riot I have. Tried twitter accounts. Tried email. They won't respond.

Prior of the Ori4 votes

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It's also a case study in how Riot is trying to shape player behavior reading some of the responses in this thread.

I'm not happy with the service I'm being provided. This is the only option of contacting Riot I have. Tried twitter accounts. Tried email. They won't respond.

Dude... The game is completely, entirely, 100$ free to play. Also, just because you bought stuff in the game does not make you immune to being punished for being a jerk. They do take verbal AND actionable offenses seriously as you can report people for afking or feeding and they do get punished. I have actually physically seen it happen my self and I am very happy they do this. But nothing in this world is perfect and the same goes for Riot Games, they can't always get everyone, at least not right away. But they do eventually get what they deserve. As for claiming you were "forced" to participate in some kind of experiment... Well I am sorry to say this but you are starting to sound a lot like my Ex wife's paranoid schizophrenic father who believed the Gov't was always after him and when ever a white limo drove by it was his "rival gang" and he would cover up all his windows and board up his doors... If there is any kind of experiment Riot Games is doing they are harmless data gathering experiments like finding out what would make the game better or more fluid, etc. They would never intentionally put you in unpleasant situations on purpose, game wouldn't last very long if it did. This is a video game, not a doctors visit, or going to get your car fixed, or even paying monthly for a Netflix account. The "service you are being provided" is not mandatory in any way and since it is a free to play game, well then don't spend money on it, or just don't play it. If you broke the TOS and lost your money, well that's what you get for being toxic. Happy that I won't be playing with you in game but I hope you find something that works for you. The social experiences you have in the game are completely in your control. Don't like someone talking crap to you? Mute them. Keep being harassed in the client? Block them. Still don't like the game experience, then stop playing and find something else to do. Wish you luck.

Side note: I have never got set up playing with someone in my block list and the only time I have ever had repeat players was the rare one player from a previous game and that usually results in a fun positive banter between us.

TrulyBland5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prior of the Ori,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=myAaHnZE,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2016-01-08T05:09:54.280+0000)

Dude... The game is completely, entirely, 100$ free to play.

I'm completely aware that my comment is going to be entirely unconstructive and off-topic... But that has to be the most funny typo I've seen in a long time :D

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prior of the Ori,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=myAaHnZE,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2016-01-08T05:09:54.280+0000)

Dude... The game is completely, entirely, 100$ free to play. Also, just because you bought stuff in the game does not make you immune to being punished for being a jerk. They do take verbal AND actionable offenses seriously as you can report people for afking or feeding and they do get punished. I have actually physically seen it happen my self and I am very happy they do this. But nothing in this world is perfect and the same goes for Riot Games, they can't always get everyone, at least not right away. But they do eventually get what they deserve. As for claiming you were "forced" to participate in some kind of experiment... Well I am sorry to say this but you are starting to sound a lot like my Ex wife's paranoid schizophrenic father who believed the Gov't was always after him and when ever a white limo drove by it was his "rival gang" and he would cover up all his windows and board up his doors... If there is any kind of experiment Riot Games is doing they are harmless data gathering experiments like finding out what would make the game better or more fluid, etc. They would never intentionally put you in unpleasant situations on purpose, game wouldn't last very long if it did. This is a video game, not a doctors visit, or going to get your car fixed, or even paying monthly for a Netflix account. The "service you are being provided" is not mandatory in any way and since it is a free to play game, well then don't spend money on it, or just don't play it. If you broke the TOS and lost your money, well that's what you get for being toxic. Happy that I won't be playing with you in game but I hope you find something that works for you.

Side note: I have never got set up playing with someone in my block list and the only time I have ever had repeat players was the rare one player from a previous game and that usually results in a fun positive banter between us.

Maybe read an article on Riot's player reformation strategy and then get back to me. Knowing is half the battle.

Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean the ignore list function isn't broken. Talk to other players.

Your entire comment is under researched and frankly insulting to the intelligence of an average human being.

Prior of the Ori4 votes

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Maybe read an article on Riot's player reformation strategy and then get back to me. Knowing is half the battle.

Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean the ignore list function isn't broken. Talk to other players.

Your entire comment is under researched and frankly insulting to the intelligence of an average human being.

I have read them, here's the link for the others by the way in case he refuses to show "proof". http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/new-player-reform-system-heads-testing

You agreed to the TOS and every time they make a change or add something, when you log in they repost it in the TOS and you have to click Accept or Decline. When they made this change, is was in their TOS and you had to have clicked Accept. So you did agree to these terms. Sorry man if you think I am insulting your intelligence but these are facts. This reform system is to help IMPROVE the effectiveness and responsiveness of toxic people (you apparently being one of them) being punished. Which by the way also helps against the very things you are complaining about, ie "broken ignore list". Which yes, in 3 years I haven't seen a problem with. How long have you been playing? Sorry just seems like an excuse to me. So it's kind of ironic you are complaining about being a part of something that's supposed to help fix the very things you are complaining about...

Did you even read the Reform System information? I don't think you did your research. Your comment is kind of Ironic but you are right about one thing. Knowing is half the battle.

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prior of the Ori,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=myAaHnZE,comment-id=000b000000010000,timestamp=2016-01-08T05:31:35.148+0000)

I have read them, here's the link for the others by the way in case he refuses to show "proof". http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/new-player-reform-system-heads-testing

You agreed to the TOS and every time they make a change or add something, when you log in they repost it in the TOS and you have to click Accept or Decline. When they made this change, is was in their TOS and you had to have clicked Accept. So you did agree to these terms. Sorry man if you think I am insulting your intelligence but these are facts. This reform system is to help IMPROVE the effectiveness and responsiveness of toxic people (you apparently being one of them) being punished. Which by the way also helps against the very things you are complaining about, ie "broken ignore list". Which yes, in 3 years I haven't seen a problem with. How long have you been playing? Sorry just seems like an excuse to me. So it's kind of ironic you are complaining about being a part of something that's supposed to help fix the very things you are complaining about...

Did you even read the Reform System information? I don't think you did your research. Your comment is kind of Ironic but you are right about one thing. Knowing is half the battle.

Yes it is Ironic. The tools that Riot puts at our disposal to handle player disputes on our own are broken. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

And maybe, just a quick google search would show you I'm not the only one.

Prior of the Ori5 votes

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Yes it is Ironic. The tools that Riot puts at our disposal to handle player disputes on our own are broken. Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

And maybe, just a quick google search would show you I'm not the only one.

You keep saying "Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen." which is starting look like you're not actually trying to understand the people who disagree with you. It hasn't happened to me because _I-am-not-toxic-to-people. _

Yes a quick google search would show that, you're not the only person who can act ignorant and childish. Sorry for saying that but it's incredibly obvious.

Plain and simple:

  1. You agreed to the TOS which included the reform system.

  2. You were being toxic and were giving several warnings to stop.

  3. You have control over most of the social experience in the game. Ie Mute, block, etc.

  4. The game will never be perfect but is always improving.

Since you refused to own up to your own mistakes and keep blaming others, their is no getting through to you. This makes me glad I am gifted with an open mind. Since you will just keep making pointless attempts to prove your point, I am done. I hope everyone else sees that and doesn't waste their time with you anymore. Granted it has been a little entertaining. Good luck in your endeavors in finding a game that suits you!

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prior of the Ori,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=myAaHnZE,comment-id=000b00000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-08T06:17:50.798+0000)

You keep saying "Just because it hasn't happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen." which is starting look like you're not actually trying to understand the people who disagree with you. It hasn't happened to me because _I-am-not-toxic-to-people. _

Yes a quick google search would show that, you're not the only person who can act ignorant and childish. Sorry for saying that but it's incredibly obvious.

Plain and simple:

  1. You agreed to the TOS which included the reform system.

  2. You were being toxic and were giving several warnings to stop.

  3. You have control over most of the social experience in the game. Ie Mute, block, etc.

  4. The game will never be perfect but is always improving.

Since you refused to own up to your own mistakes and keep blaming others, their is no getting through to you. This makes me glad I am gifted with an open mind. Since you will just keep making pointless attempts to prove your point, I am done. I hope everyone else sees that and doesn't waste their time with you anymore. Granted it has been a little entertaining. Good luck in your endeavors in finding a game that suits you!

No. I was referring to you constantly ignoring the fact that I bring up that Riot's ignore function is broken. It doesn't work. The one control that they give us, the ignore list, is crap, doesn't work, and is useless.That you still can't get through that skull. that's what you needed to search, because you wouldn't listen and just kept talking about other stuff that doesn't matter.

I said I was banned for swearing. I did it. I'll do it again. This isn't about my behavior.

It's really funny watching these boards. Riot gets slurped a lil much.

TrulyBland4 votes

I believe it's constantly ignored because it's simply not true. You merely misunderstand what the ignore function does. You can't say a car is broken just because it doesn't fly.

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

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I believe it's constantly ignored because it's simply not true. You merely misunderstand what the ignore function does. You can't say a car is broken just because it doesn't fly.

I click ignore. I should not hear those players or see their chat in game. I do. I go to my ignore list, and they are no longer on it.Same gd thing I've been saying all night that for some reason you refuse to believe happens. Whatevs. I told you a quick google search would solve your ignorance of said issue. You continue to wallow in it.

TrulyBland3 votes

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I click ignore. I should not hear those players or see their chat in game. I do. I go to my ignore list, and they are no longer on it.Same gd thing I've been saying all night that for some reason you refuse to believe happens. Whatevs. I told you a quick google search would solve your ignorance of said issue. You continue to wallow in it.

A quick google brought up the thousands of people that complain that the ignore function doesn't work the way they expect it to work. So no, a quick google doesN't solve my ignorance... you could of course, instead of your non-stop passive aggressivity provided a link, or at least explained what exactly is broken. Oh wait, you did, in your OP... aaaand you pointed out the exact same thing as all those people I just googled: You got mached with people on your ignore list. Which is not a bug.

With your new very very short explanation, I'm assuming you are confusing the ignore list and the mute function, that do afaik not function quite the same way. Mute works only for one game. But since again, you're prioritizing being passive aggressive over actually trying to properly explain the problem, that's just a guess.

Prior of the Ori3 votes

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I believe it's constantly ignored because it's simply not true. You merely misunderstand what the ignore function does. You can't say a car is broken just because it doesn't fly.

Lol, I like that.

Void Nargacuga2 votes

The ignore list is MEANT for completely blocking a players chat. That is all. If it worked the way you wanted, in higher tiers like Master/Challenger (for the best example) they could just ignore players just so they NEVER play with them on their team and it would completely mess up the queuing system as well if it worked like that. And in such high ranks the player base is REALLY small compared to lower ranks like Bronze up to Gold.

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=myAaHnZE,comment-id=000b0000000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-01-08T06:32:59.705+0000)

The ignore list is MEANT for completely blocking a players chat. That is all. If it worked the way you wanted, in higher tiers like Master/Challenger (for the best example) they could just ignore players just so they NEVER play with them on their team and it would completely mess up the queuing system as well if it worked like that. And in such high ranks the player base is REALLY small compared to lower ranks like Bronze up to Gold.

READ THE THREAD.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

I have. Problem is: This is a online only game. Other games that have a online function that isn't mandatory to play, have little to no control of ONLINE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN PLAYERS.

Expect the thing is that RIOT is trying to do their best to keep the community clean since this is an online only game. But of course there will be players who think that they have total freedom to call people off because of: LOL ITS FREE SPEECH! Which is a problem.

You wanted this discussion and we - the community that has to possibly play with you in game at any given time - have tried over and over to explain this, but you just keep acting like your high and mighty.

Prior of the Ori2 votes

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No. I was referring to you constantly ignoring the fact that I bring up that Riot's ignore function is broken. It doesn't work. The one control that they give us, the ignore list, is crap, doesn't work, and is useless.That you still can't get through that skull. that's what you needed to search, because you wouldn't listen and just kept talking about other stuff that doesn't matter.

I said I was banned for swearing. I did it. I'll do it again. This isn't about my behavior.

It's really funny watching these boards. Riot gets slurped a lil much.

Lol, The true colors are starting to show. That's not all you brought up. But since you want to mentioned it again and I did respond to your complaint about a "broken ignore function" (so you are wrong again) I will say it again, it doesn't excuse your negative behavior. You, personally, can still ignore it and report them.

It's really funny watching you continue to waste your time making an argument you already lost. Dude, just move on. Go play something else. Peace.

p0rtabldrknz1 votes

So feeling wronged and trying to get the cash I poured into this game is toxic?

And no. I never signed up for their program.

TL;DR Get a clue

Prior of the Ori6 votes

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So feeling wronged and trying to get the cash I poured into this game is toxic?

And no. I never signed up for their program.

TL;DR Get a clue

See, refusing to see the truth. You said toxic things to people.

Yes you did sign up for their program, I literally explained this to you which proves you don't do your research at all. You should take your own advice.

When they added that program they updated the TOS, you hit the accept button to play the game. You did sign up for. Deal with it.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

You should just give up. OP's a blonde. Can't do anything about that.

Void Nargacuga3 votes

Is it high time this becomes a Pseudo Memes and Games thread? Seems that way to me honestly. We have tried and tried again to no avail. This is the only response we get (meme style of course!)

https://media.giphy.com/media/I6AHD4Px5nzGg/giphy.gif

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Mostly when OP do receives help(generally good ones), and replies with this instead:

http://reallifestl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ross-geller.gif

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Sadly I don't know what show that is from, or what its trying to convey. Sorry. =/

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Lol, it's k.

The show is called Friends btw. Watch all 10 seasons, it's awesome. I Garen -tee you that ;)

Troll Armada1 votes

Again I agree with you, in principle, so do most of the rational human beings who still operate in reality. That seems like a very basic common serse view of Justice in general.

You might be a toxic little shit, but if you put out.. if you produce, you're tolerated. That's actually how life works.

However, Riot's been very clear that thought crimes against player base will be taken very serious now, since the majority of the player base are in fact trolls, getting rid of people who are making these people feel bad by being toxic is a sound business decision.

Habitz3 votes

I can see you're trying to be reasonable with him but this is not how life works. Any business will gladly remove a customer from their premises if they create an environment that is hostile to their other customers. Typing abusive chat is not a thought crime, it has at that point (by your own will) been released to other people and has the ability to do harm to others.

Troll Armada1 votes

Well, you're very good at getting to the root of the issue, and that root is a philosophical one. On one and there are those who believe that words don't hurt the same way that physical actions do, and on the other hand there is your view that they do in fact hurt people substantially.

As for the other thing, the 'this is how life works..' comment ...you've obviously never dealt with a software sales department. : )

Habitz2 votes

I'll reply first by letting you know I'm not one of the people who downvoted your comment and by stating I'm a software developer that deals, way more than I want to, with the sales department at my current place of employment.

Unfortunately there is a major difference here. When we perform custom work for our clients then yes they are allowed to be toxic to us and we must bow down to whatever they say. Because we are dependent on their business and our other customers are not aware of our interactions with them because it is a completely private and confidential affair.

In retail businesses, which I would label riot, you create a mass product such that if person A doesn't like it then that's ok because you can still sell it to B, C etc. In such an environment it is better to remove a person (whether they are a customer or not) if they risk you losing business from others in your store.

I agree that I should not have said "any" business, however, for riot and lots of other businesses it is better to remove toxicity.

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