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New runes+honor system

MAGE CZE·5/30/2017, 7:51:40 PM·1 votes·364 views

Dear Roit,

I just see that you are going to make huuuuuge changes this year. Honestly, I really appreciate idea about master rune and sub runes. GREAT.

With the new honor system I also like this idea but several things to consider:

  1. Improving honor rank is ok
  2. I also like idea of reducing rank but here I would like to make following point:

This can lead to some sort of revenge after match because some of the fellow players. If you are playing with player who is flaming and he is not carrying game revenge can appear. Another example is revenge for unwilling kill steal e.g. you are playing teemo who has poison residual and enemy champ is dead because of it. Think that there are not always fair and honest players.

I will suggest to include the option or some mechanism for afk. If player is afk or is giving up, feeding decrease the honor rank.

I think you should also consider that there should be some limitation of getting honor from same player to avoid increasing honor rank to get better rewards.

There are also other improvements I would like to see:

  1. update of the toxic behavior
  2. introducing fixed categories top, mid,.... also in the normal blind pick game. There are so many discussions who is where and players are not respecting it. It sometimes ends up in spamming in the game, giving up etc. This is resulting in 2 adc, 2 jg, 2 mid or so.
  3. introducing levels and division of the enemy team players
  4. revision of the match system in ranked solo/tandem play. As bronze player I can not play against platinum or upper gold division players. This is resulting only in losing motivation in the team because such player are simply week part of the team and also player is demotivated because of high frequency of deaths.
  5. I really like changing of the rift when winter season/Christmas. I was cool to see snow in the rift. What about changing it according to spring, summer,etc.?

Thank you for your feedback. If you want we can discuss it in more details. Kayle

Teemo

1 Comments

Umbral Regent5/30/2017, 9:11:37 PM1 votes

I personally have a few issues with the Honor System, at least how it's presented in the video.

  • It doesn't appear to incentivize players to honor people, it incentivizes people to strive for honors. Even with the post-game prompt to honor teammates, I don't imagine for honoring to become too much more frequent.
  • The current names for the Honors available (Stayed Cool, Great Shotcalling, & GG <3) sound a little off. To me, it sounds like a "hip new rebranding" of Friendly, Helpful, & Teamwork, and for some reason that's beyond me to explain, it just doesn't sound right.
  • From what I could gather in the video, you can only honor one person post-game. To me, that's a pretty big issue for a few reasons; 1. It eliminates the ability to honor your whole team if they were great (as rare as that is), 2. it (and the incentive system) can be fairly easily gamed (hypothetically, anyway) by having a premade, and 3. it feels like players are generally just given a choice between honoring one player, or honoring nobody - and I'm willing to wager most people would choose to honor nobody.
  • Key Fragments/Keys being rewarded through the Honor System is kind of a red flag for me, since - as mentioned above - the system seems built to make people strive for honors, without actually getting people to want to honor people.

All said, the new Honor System looks nice, but doesn't sound nice. There's still really no reason to honor other players, especially since with the new system, you won't be able to honor more than one. While I understand the need to promote sportsmanlike behavior and the like, tying Hextech Keys to it is a bit of a bad idea in my opinion - I'd rather work for the Key Fragments through wins than through honors.

Even further, I have to reiterate; this system looks like it could be very easily gamed by people who have friends who do frequent premades. Perhaps that's the idea, though - Key Fragments have a higher drop chance with premades, but with the Honor System, having premades ensures you'll get those Key Fragments from having your whole team honor you consistently.

I'm looking forward to it, but from what I've seen in the video, they need a lot of work before release.