I got suspended for telling someone not to call me the n-word

Aurelion Sun··12 votes·3,984 views

I was playing a league game today and someone used the n-word against me in champ select. They harassed me all game in both pings and chat using the n-word and 'neg' . I told them not to call me or anyone the n-word in chat but I still got suspended because I typed out the word. I didn't say anything else to them all game but I simply told them not to call me the n-word. Is there a way to get my account not suspended?

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IcyPepper10 votes

Why would you type the word out? Hell, why respond to them at that point at all? Just mute them and report them post-game.

[sg-janna]

It's not worth the energy asking people to not harass you when they're already doing it. Just ignore 'em.

Paíntchip1 votes

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Why would you type the word out? Hell, why respond to them at that point at all? Just mute them and report them post-game.

[sg-janna]

It's not worth the energy asking people to not harass you when they're already doing it. Just ignore 'em.

people like you are the reason this game is still so damn toxic. "meh...why type it out?"...how about demanding riot instead focus on the real problem.

Umbral Regent6 votes

Well, if the person reported whoever threw hate speech his way, odds are extremely high that they got punished, too.

The thing is, people who try to address toxic players or argue back with them or what have you are often just as much a problem as the toxic players themselves. Whether they're arguing or trying to say "don't say that" or anything else - they're contributing to the negative experience the first player caused.

And, in the case of the OP: It should be common knowledge not to repeat what a toxic player says. That's only liable to get you punished as well.

The best response to someone being toxic and throwing hate speech your way is to mute, report, and move on. Don't give them the time of day, don't tell them "don't say that" - just mute them and report them.

ShaolinToilet1 votes

Unless you come to the boards the report system is not common knowledge

Umbral Regent2 votes

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean the presence of the report system, or how the report system works?

If it's the former, I kind of doubt it - I'd imagine the majority of the community has browsed over the features in the post-game lobby a couple times over their League careers, and have consequently stumbled on the Friend/Invite/Report icons beside player screennames.

If it's the latter, though, I can understand that much. People generally come to their own conclusions about how the system works before coming to the boards, and they're seldom open to hearing how other people see how the system works - or even how Riot explains how it works.

ShaolinToilet1 votes

Yes that's what I meant. Not sure why people down voted you

Umbral Regent1 votes

Someone didn't like their discussion with me, so they fudged four or five downvotes onto this comment in particular for some reason. What can you do?

Though, in the terms of players not knowing how the IFS works - I am kind of curious as to how they figure it works. As is the case of our current discussion, I'm curious as to why the OP repeated hate speech, and why they didn't expect a punishment from doing so.

Hypothetically, it could be chalked up to numerous things - maybe they've gotten to the "doubting" point in their experience with the IFS, where they recognize the Instant Feedback Report pop-up, but assume it's the say-all-end-all indicator of punishment.

Maybe they think "nobody'd report someone who's defending themselves" - but then fail to recognize that there is at least one person with spite enough to report them? Or, perhaps they'd be a step beyond that, and confident that, even if reported, their behavior was wholly in the right?

I could really only speculate, but cases like these will always have my interest for that reason. Hopefully such cases remain few and far between, and hopefully some day the general workings of the IFS become common knowledge, but, until then, all we can rightly do is to do our best to explain the system and try to help people where we can.

IcyPepper1 votes

You can.

By reporting the person.

Hyquiem1 votes

You all do realize chat is the least problem if the one you harassed or if your in the postion end up feeding then the games truly over..

IcyPepper2 votes

Being bad at the game isn't punishable, and it isn't always in your power if the enemy is just better at the game. It happens.

Choosing (because nobody can force you to) to harass someone has no place in this game, period. I don't care if someone has the reflexes of a five-year-old, one can prove they have the maturity of a adult by not acting like a child about it.

Darius Strada1 votes

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Why would you type the word out? Hell, why respond to them at that point at all? Just mute them and report them post-game.

[sg-janna]

It's not worth the energy asking people to not harass you when they're already doing it. Just ignore 'em.

The only thing Evil needs to flourish is good man not doing anything. Any decent person would have understand the context behind what he meant. Saying the n-word is psychologically exhausting. Don't give it more power than it already has. We need to break the cycle to create a better world for everyone.

Baka Red1 votes

The thing is; reporting is not "not doing anything." Maybe it isn't doing enough, but it might get the person who deserves punishment actually punished. The muting part protects the person muting him from further abuse.

Kei1435 votes

File a ticket to https://support.riotgames.com and ask them to review the punishment.

Depending on your behavioral history, they may revert the punishment.

That said, don't repeat hate speech of what others said.

ºKurisu Makiseº5 votes

You were likely punished by the automated system, as thousands.. if not millions of others are as well. The automated system is flawed and if you press this matter on the boards, the moderators will refuse to hold the reason accountable. I'm sorry this happened, but you likely won't find any sympathy here. All we can do is make our words known and move on. [sg-soraka]

Hotarµ3 votes

You can file a support ticket, but my guess is that if there was any bit of negativity in anything you said that game, it wouldn't lift your suspension. Just be as open and as clear as possible, apologize, and really make sure they understand that you were just repeating it to defend yourself. No intention to flame or harass anyone, you just wanted him to stop flaming you.

You'll never know unless you try, good luck.

Telephone Booth3 votes

The last thing you should do online when you're offended, is tell someone what they should or should not say. That's just ridiculous. You honestly think telling someone not to call you a word, is gonna prevent them from calling you said word?

dnsup2 votes

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The last thing you should do online when you're offended, is tell someone what they should or should not say. That's just ridiculous. You honestly think telling someone not to call you a word, is gonna prevent them from calling you said word?

I don't understand why anyone would upvote your comment. It's perfectly reasonable to communicate what you want to people. If you believe otherwise, then the absurd version of your argument is that no one should try to communicate in good faith.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I don't understand why anyone would upvote your comment. It's perfectly reasonable to communicate what you want to people. If you believe otherwise, then the absurd version of your argument is that no one should try to communicate in good faith.

Well when someone is calling you a nword, I think it's safe to assume their reasoning and caring is a bit eschew. There's a lot of factors involved... but come on... if someone on the internet is calling you a nword in a video game, I think their goal is to offend you. You're just giving them pleasure in knowing that it bothers you. You're completely right amongst reasonable people. But someone saying THAT? There's no reason. They will probably increase their offense.

TheZacStreetBoys2 votes

Words of baseless bigotry are the reason politics in the US are polarized, thus bigotry is a cause of societal dysfunction. In the world of the internet, a bigot can always find those sharing his opinions somewhere, allowing them to gain power and recognition, so even one person can have large influence in these groups. If it is made quite clear to somebody that modern societal ideals do not support their words, they would probably stop.

Essentially, telling somebody you don't want to hear certain words (especially bigotry) is beneficial in modern society.

dnsup1 votes

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Words of baseless bigotry are the reason politics in the US are polarized, thus bigotry is a cause of societal dysfunction. In the world of the internet, a bigot can always find those sharing his opinions somewhere, allowing them to gain power and recognition, so even one person can have large influence in these groups. If it is made quite clear to somebody that modern societal ideals do not support their words, they would probably stop.

Essentially, telling somebody you don't want to hear certain words (especially bigotry) is beneficial in modern society.

Don't let the neolibs hear you.

CharDeeMcDenniz3 votes

one of these posts every day it seems...

people need to learn to ignore completely what the other person said when reflecting on their ban

what did you say? you said a racial slur

game over, you're dumb

Sorin Alucard3 votes

my smurf was banned for pointing out someone was racist. I filed a ticket with support and they upheld the ban against my account.

I'll keep posting the truth of my experiences on the board until they admit they CAN'T fix their shit report system or WON'T. Either way, the average player is cheated out of too many games by asinine behavior.

dnsup2 votes

That's egregious, and I hope Riot helps you out.

Submit a support ticket. But be warned: frequently, even in cases like this, the support representative responds with a quotation of something that "players found offensive."

To be blunt, this phrase means almost anything--ranging from actually offensive content (such as the 'n'-word), to "omg their team comp... o.o" to "hey guys it's me, degenerate Malphite!".

420 grams1 votes

No chat log?

Lost R1 votes

You used the word, didn't you? Dear fucking christ...

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