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How can we not be toxic?

LukaMaybeNoob··3 votes·4,059 views

How can u expect people to not b toxic after they work so hard to get to promos and lose them due to having team mates that shouldn’t even be allowed to play ranked?

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Chermorg6 votes

Because Riot expects players to be mature and have the personal responsibility to understand that if they are not climbing, it is because their skill is not of a higher level than those they are matched with.

MrFawknSunshine4 votes

LUL riot expects maturity on a video game that is played via the internet behind a monitor and keyboard

we see how well that has worked

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Chermorg4 votes

It works pretty well for the 80+% of the community who never gets any sort of punishment whatsoever.

MrFawknSunshine3 votes

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It works pretty well for the 80+% of the community who never gets any sort of punishment whatsoever.

so 4 out 5 are well behave mature individuals and 1 out of 5 are toxic lil a holes?

seems like society in general

PerfectPower4 votes

80+% of the community is also Unranked/Bronze/Silver. Those are people who rarely ever play the game, or have never played enough to experience what more dedicated players experience. If you play the game more than twice a day in Plat+ you're never going to be able to not get banned/chat restricted.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

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80+% of the community is also Unranked/Bronze/Silver. Those are people who rarely ever play the game, or have never played enough to experience what more dedicated players experience. If you play the game more than twice a day in Plat+ you're never going to be able to not get banned/chat restricted.

lol playing the game isnt what gets you banned/chat restricted ... its breaking the TOS and SUMMONER CODE

but then again you might be that 1 of 5 people discussed in earlier comments

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Chermorg4 votes

League isn't a game for professionals only - just as soccer, football, basketball, tennis aren't built around what "professionals" want.

League is a game for everyone.

If you play the game more than twice a day in Plat+ you're never going to be able to not get banned/chat restricted.

I personally know multiple players of Plat+ (including one in Master who has been playing at a Master level for at least 3 seasons and been playing League in general since Season 1) who have never gotten any punishment whatsoever.

Reothimene3 votes

cherry picking at it's finest ''i know ONE master btw that hasn't been punished before but plays regularly with players he knows from playing with them everyday in top 0.123%''

Chermorg2 votes

You said it was "never going to be able" to not get punished.

I proved that wrong. You're either changing your story or you're greatly exaggerating how many players get punished because you don't want to accept that players who get punished are the minority.

Reothimene1 votes

i did?

Chermorg2 votes

The person you're responding to did, apologies for confusing you.

The point still stands - it is not cherry picking to disprove someone who makes an ultimatum.

dragfin123 votes

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League isn't a game for professionals only - just as soccer, football, basketball, tennis aren't built around what "professionals" want.

League is a game for everyone.

I personally know multiple players of Plat+ (including one in Master who has been playing at a Master level for at least 3 seasons and been playing League in general since Season 1) who have never gotten any punishment whatsoever.

Those players are happy being passive and probably let people walk all over them in real life as well. They actually live a pathetic existence.

Chermorg2 votes

I like how you act as if you know how I and others act in real life.

There's a difference between "let[ting] people walk all over them" and "being a decent human being".

dragfin121 votes

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I like how you act as if you know how I and others act in real life.

There's a difference between "let[ting] people walk all over them" and "being a decent human being".

Lol, wow, ok, you have no idea what the current social climate is apparently because that does not happen in this game. But you keep kidding yourself. Have a nice day.

BoringLittleF1 votes

Those players are happy being passive and probably let people walk all over them in real life as well. They actually live a pathetic existence.

A person who can get a point through and be assertive without reducing themselves to a screeching mess has a good, wholesome life.

A person who screeches and throws stuff at people usually lives in an apartment with thirty cats/favorite waifu bodypillow among empty pizza boxes/PC with another online game grinder turned on like 24/7.

dragfin121 votes

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A person who can get a point through and be assertive without reducing themselves to a screeching mess has a good, wholesome life.

A person who screeches and throws stuff at people usually lives in an apartment with thirty cats/favorite waifu bodypillow among empty pizza boxes/PC with another online game grinder turned on like 24/7.

I'm talking about those that do nothing. There are alot of those people. Your first sentence is doing something. You are assuming people just rant on without regard.

Most people do nothing though and are happy to allow people to walk all over them.

Reothimene2 votes

thought league was pg12 and we had mute buttons and a mature language filter guess i was wrong :-/ also lost a s5 game on a smurf because someone was trolling ^-^

Chermorg1 votes

PG refers to acceptable topics - not toxicity. Making the chat a script for a porno, for example, would not be allowed.

Muting does not excuse negative and toxic behavior.

Reothimene1 votes

riot also punishes passive aggresion if you think you'll get banned for spamming 1488 kill nword

Light Burner1 votes

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PG refers to acceptable topics - not toxicity. Making the chat a script for a porno, for example, would not be allowed.

Muting does not excuse negative and toxic behavior.

Yea but him running down every lane inting or refusing to communicate to the team excuses him because "lag" or "im just not a good player" or "im having a bad game" right?

Chermorg1 votes

Someone running down every lane inting will be banned within 5 minutes of the game ending. You're either lying/exaggerating or you're bullshitting yourself.

Refusing to communicate is not against the rules. Players are permitted to play how they want - you don't have some "right" to boss them around or force them to play how you want them to.

Light Burner1 votes

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Someone running down every lane inting will be banned within 5 minutes of the game ending. You're either lying/exaggerating or you're bullshitting yourself.

Refusing to communicate is not against the rules. Players are permitted to play how they want - you don't have some "right" to boss them around or force them to play how you want them to.

You wanna queue up with me right now? And ill run it down every lane and i wont get banned on top of that ill play the way i want and make sure my team loses but you know i wont be banned for it. I can afk farm and watch my team lose cuz theyre stuck with an afk but you dont have the right to "boss" me around. Asking you to group or do something useful on the map isnt bossing you around its telling you to play the game. If you dont wanna play the game why did you even queue up?

Chermorg1 votes

You've changed your story - you start by saying you'll run it down every lane... but then you say you'll just "make sure my team loses" in other ways that are harder to detect.

Which is it?

Light Burner1 votes

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You've changed your story - you start by saying you'll run it down every lane... but then you say you'll just "make sure my team loses" in other ways that are harder to detect.

Which is it?

No i said ill run it down first and make sure our team loses. Like not just run it down like if you could win even with me running it down ill do even more things to make us lose. You wanna queue up and see? Im actually down to queue up just to show you how easy it is to do it and yet im sick of people not getting banned for doing so.

Chermorg1 votes

If you are running down every lane, intentionally feeding, you will be banned after that game.

If you've actually done that on your account and not been punished, I encourage you to provide proof of it. You can't, because you haven't - if you've done that, you've been banned for it.

Light Burner1 votes

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If you are running down every lane, intentionally feeding, you will be banned after that game.

If you've actually done that on your account and not been punished, I encourage you to provide proof of it. You can't, because you haven't - if you've done that, you've been banned for it.

why would i provide proof of it on riot forums? like then im just asking to get banned. but i can show you you dont get banned from doing it if you wanna see end game stats

Chermorg1 votes

You are making a claim, you are being asked to prove that claim, and you are saying you won't prove it.

Nobody will believe you. I'm done responding to you unless you actually wish to have a discussion (which requires you to provide evidence/proof for claims you make).

Light Burner1 votes

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You are making a claim, you are being asked to prove that claim, and you are saying you won't prove it.

Nobody will believe you. I'm done responding to you unless you actually wish to have a discussion (which requires you to provide evidence/proof for claims you make).

Ill send you proof of my friend doing it but i dont really know how to record in game so ill just send the game for you and you can look up and watch it if you want proof. Sound good?

Light Burner1 votes

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You are making a claim, you are being asked to prove that claim, and you are saying you won't prove it.

Nobody will believe you. I'm done responding to you unless you actually wish to have a discussion (which requires you to provide evidence/proof for claims you make).

See now when i tell you ill show you now you dont wanna answer?

dragfin122 votes

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Because Riot expects players to be mature and have the personal responsibility to understand that if they are not climbing, it is because their skill is not of a higher level than those they are matched with.

We expect the same and until RIOT starts banning frequent and provable afk's, dc's and leavers they can't expect people to not get pissed off and lose their shit. Those people are a huge part of the problem for tilting people but because RIOT chooses not to be more harsh on those players it's safe to say that RIOT has created this problem themselves. Until RIOT starts discipling both parties equally the problem is only going to get worse.

Simply Tiffany1 votes

although I respect your opinion I must say that is very unrealistic, you got to understand this is a highly competitive MOBA and feelings like anger exist and they are inevitable. And yes they may need a little more practice going up against people with a little more skill than they have but when there are trolls setting some of them back it's going to be extremely frustrating. And people who don't get angry at that either don't care about this game (which is fine) or don't care to rank up. and I am sorry but you can't tell me that 80% of the people who played this game has never been punished.

Chermorg1 votes

I can and will tell you that, because it's true. You not wanting to accept that the vast majority of players are not toxic does not change the fact that is true.

BillionSun1 votes

So when my top poppy goes 0/11 in my promos follwoed by a 0/9 irelia in the next game is it still my fault that I am not ranking up at the rate I want? I mean if it takes me 160 games to go from silver 4 to gold 5 and 20 of thise games had trolls, feeders, afks, or just unskilled players is it still my fault?

Chermorg1 votes

Yes. You forget that, statistically, for every 0/11 top poppy you have on your team, you have one on the other team. Sure, it may be another champ, lane, role, player... but you don't just somehow miraculously break statistics. If you're not climbing, it's because of YOU.

Bijeesny1 votes

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Because Riot expects players to be mature and have the personal responsibility to understand that if they are not climbing, it is because their skill is not of a higher level than those they are matched with.

I don't think he's complaining about not being able to climb, but more for the fact when he gets to promos he loses them because of factors which are beyond his control, and if you find yourself in that situation a lot of times, you will become frustrated, and toxic in the worst case scenario.

LukaMaybeNoob1 votes

That’s exactly what I’m saying

La Mataviejitas2 votes

How did they get those promos though? By having "good" team mates.

Reothimene1 votes

or slightly less noobs on their team

La Mataviejitas1 votes

That is my point, you cant roll a saving throw every time.

Pachyderm2 votes

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How can u expect people to not b toxic after they work so hard to get to promos and lose them due to having team mates that shouldn’t even be allowed to play ranked?

Your chances of getting a bad team is as high as getting a good team. The only variable here is you. If you want to climb, you're going to have to work for it. If you lose your promos but you're good enough to deserve the higher rank, you'll get back into those promos quickly enough regardless. Best of luck, man!

[sg-ahri-2]

Urins1 votes

BS!

I am matched with total braindead players 70% of time! Always feeding 0/10, AFK or blame others about your death, never get objectives but run in jungle without vision for kills and die. God permanently banned. Will never ever play this retrd game again. I can be flamed - rare someone gets a punishment. But whenever i get a bad temper - I get a ban! Good game as holes! Stay in your sh*t hole!

saltran1 votes

I've been playing since like S3-4 and I'm not toxic even when I lost a promos because my supp picked Aerys Ezreal, almost inted and said at min 15 "is ok, we can ff"

Simply Tiffany1 votes

Well when you have a highly competitive game like this it's hard to keep your cool especially when the thing that you've been working so hard to get, you just don't and you lose because of factors that are beyond your control. it can definitely feel frustrating at sometimes but you just got to take a step back and take a breather and I know how hard that is when the thing that you wanted so much slips right between your fingertips. You got to understand though your teammates are giving it their all too But nevertheless it's a feeling that you're going to feel. And honestly it's inevitable, hey I'd be mad too if someone prevented me from getting Platinum because they were playing so horribly, it's just human nature. And you are right to feel those feelings of anger those are necessary feelings but just try not to yell at anyone get your account banned.

Much Love Tiffany

Godhri1 votes

I just came here to read the comments. I've learned from past threads that these threads facilitate arguments as opposed to productive discussions which actually explore the issue as opposed to attempting to convince each other of varying perspectives.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Telephone Booth1 votes

Why is that a reason to be toxic? You lose a game and feel the need to insult people and act like an asshole? Does that honestly make you feel good when it's over? Or do you pretty much feel the same?

LukaMaybeNoob1 votes

Damn guys, you all crazy, I just asked a question, you don’t need to argue, I see where those arguments come from and what they stand for, but you don’t have to take shots at each other passively lol... Or any kind of shots ofc.

My question is more of a problem with the game, not the community, I hate and I always will hate the matchmaking of this game, mostly because like I said, those people that I get shouldn’t be playing ranked... they can’t even farm, I’m surprised they are not using wasd to move and wondering what’s wrong with the game.... All I’m saying is: matchmaking need to be improved to spare us competitive gamers with no time, from exactly wasting the thing that we don’t have so much of. That’s where my toxicity comes from, because you have to understand that those players, that I often get matched with, don’t even look like they are TRYING their best... They just hopped down on the Rift to check what’s up, die a little, try to surrender at 15, and die some more... Circle of matchmaking life

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