Riot back at it again with the brain dead.

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There's a difference between ordering and asking... and on the rift, it's almost never the second one.

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• Basically, what I read was: **If I don't like you, you or your attitude you shouldn't be allowed to play this game with me. **

Nah. It's more like "if it's a burden to you to be asked not harass or insult others and you're not willing to adapt your behavior, I personally feel you don't belong in the type of community Riot is trying to build." I'm totally cool with people and attitudes I don't approve of -- I just feel that insulting and harassing other players is a step too far, especially since everyone playing agreed to abide by the Summoner's Code, which asks you not to do that.

Glad you are only a mod and not actually an employee of this company, because that is an extremely biased statement. Not saying I agree or disagree, but it's not your right to tell other people how to speak and behave.

It's not, nor is it how I moderate. Hence the "speaking purely for myself." I can hold personal opinions on what should or shouldn't be okay and still stick heavily to set rules, even when and where I disagree with them. I'm positive not every Rioter agrees with the official Riot policies 100% as well, and that's fine -- as individuals we're all allowed to have our own opinions. :)

The simple fact, however, is that, as a private organization, Riot is allowed to set rules for behavior, much like how if you start screaming at your local coffee shop they can (and likely will) ask you to leave and not come back. Private organizations have always been allowed to restrict acceptable behaviors on their property, be it real-world or digital property.

{quoted}also forgive any spelling errors I am running on a few pots of tea and I reallyyyyy dont feel like going to bed [sg-lulu] Oh and thank you for responding to me I do appreciate it.

Tea is life. I understand. -sips tea himself-

And any time! Almost always happy to chat.

Then how come I have seen a couple of people a day say that they are afraid because of the bans they have seen. Hell I am afraid and I constantly watch my tongue.

Most of it is due to people not understanding the system properly, and some is because some people have trouble finding the line between friendly trash-talk and actual trash-talk: the difference between "Nice skillshot there, Ez. Better luck next time, buddy!" when he misses and "You suck, Ez!" As such, many of these players feel like they're afraid to talk, and most of them tend not to listen when someone explains the difference, or, perhaps, don't see the difference themselves.

Okay let me ask you this...the ones that are minor in the big scheme of things...do you feel like the crime fits the punishment?

I do. If someone is being a consistent negative influence on the game community after repeated warnings that their behavior isn't acceptable, sidelining them for a little bit in a place where they STILL WILL PLAY WITH OTHER PEOPLE doesn't really solve the issue at all. If repeated warnings don't cause a positive change in behavior, stalling the problem isn't really doing anything.

I read through the system and I can tell for the most part what people get punished for and generally when people dont provide chat logs they deserve it.Ones that do generally don't have anything to hide and really don't seem like they deserve a punishment. Like I said ones like this strike me odd because it doesn't even look that bad if bad at all.

Ones like this are usually the end result of a consistent history of low-grade toxicity. Minor toxicity over 50% of your games is still bringing the community down more than is acceptable, and minor toxicity usually A: takes a LOT of occurrences to trigger a suspension, and B: gives more chances than major toxicity to show reform (as you don't skip any punishment steps). It's also easier to work off of your account. So getting a ban from it means that it's consistent AND the player isn't showing improvement.

{quoted} I'm fairly certain that given the chance, most people would VOTE YOU out of this community and game - alongside with the inters, feeders and flamers - but not the negative ones you just put up on the wall

The thing is the players basically have that power. The report system learns to judge the behaviors that get frequently reported, and if the majority of players disapprove of the way I act in game then they'll report it when it's found and I will end up being punished. This is how phrases like "kys," which previously earned smaller punishments, became a zero tolerance policy in-game.